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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: Disturbing Article: SSPX & Chorbishop Spinoza
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2019, 06:01:02 PM »
My own thought is that it would be incredibly reckless of this Chorbishop to like/friend the person and establishment in question, knowing his activity would be open to the gaze of the whole world, and this realization in turn heavily implies some other explanation beside his personal guilt (e.g., such as has been discussed above).

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Offline JezusDeKoning

Re: Disturbing Article: SSPX & Chorbishop Spinoza
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2019, 08:04:46 PM »
Quote from: Benzel on June 30, 2019, 02:40:43 AM
1) Fr. Gardner participed in a "Maronite Novus Ordo Mass".

“On December 4, 1963, the Vatican Ecuмenical Council issued a decree entitled " The Liturgy." In accordance with the terms of the decree and the wishes of the Maronite Clergy, 1) The Vatican Ecuмenical Council. 2) The Maronite Bishops. 3) Other Members of the Maronite belief, clergy and laity alike. 4) The Maronite Patriarch in Lebanon who was empowered (by the terms of the regulations issued November 21, 1965, pertaining specifically to the Eastern Church and being part of the Ecuмenical Decrees of Vatican II) to reform the liturgy of the Maronite Church, His Eminence Cardinal Patriarch Peter Paul Meouchi in a patriarchal decree, dated April 13, 1973, ordered the priests of the Maronite Church to amend the Mass and to use the new Ordo Missae, as new form of prayer and devotion for a trial of one year from the date of the decree. […] In 1992, His Eminence Cardinal and Patriarch Nasrallah Boutros Sfeir, has ordered the new edition of the Maronite Mass, ad experimentum for five years. The most important elements written into the Maronite Mass by the Patriarch at the time of the decree made April 13, 1973 and in July 1992 are as follows:
In his observance of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, a priest should always face the Congregation at those times when he directly addresses the Community or when he gives a blessing or benediction, and he should turn to the altar when he addresses or pray to the Lord.
The text of the Mass should be in the vernacular particularly at those times when the priest speaks to the congregation.” […] Souce: https://sjmaronite.org/index.php/en-us/the-mysteries/divine-liturgy.html

“With the notable exception of the Syro-Malankars, the Eastern Catholic Churches of the Syriac tradition (Maronites, Chaldeans, Syriac Catholics, Syro-Malabars) have been undergoing a creeping "novusordoism" that has seen the widespread adoption of ad populum (easily verified on the Internet)” Source: https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2015/09/infusing-spirit-of-novus-ordo-into.html

"easily verified on the Internet":

Oh, absolutely. 100%. There's no need for quotes - the Maronite liturgy IS the Novus Ordo. And their clergy seem to be indistinguishable from Novus Ordo clergy, too.
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Offline homeschoolmom

Re: Disturbing Article: SSPX & Chorbishop Spinoza
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2019, 09:09:52 PM »
You can give him the benefit of the doubt if you want, because pages can get "liked" by accident. But the "Like" button has to be clicked. A liked page doesn't show up out of nowhere. It has to be clicked. Again, it could be by accident, like the slip of a big thumb on a small phone.

FB will suggest a lot of pages similar to what you've already liked, or pages that your friends like. There is usually some degree of relation to something or someone else in your circle. As far as I have experienced I have never had such a page suggested for liking since it's nowhere near my circle. But the pages could have been suggested to him as pages that that "friend" mentioned above likes and he may have accidentally liked them himself. That's the benefit of the doubt that could be afforded.

To me this is a red flag that gets filed away and if nothing comes of it, then it was a fαℓѕє fℓαg. If it is accompanied by other red flags at some point in the future, then it couldn't continue to be explained away.

I can't find the profile that is screenshot above. Only a very clean Chorbishop Anthony S Spinosa profile is showing up for me. I don't know if it's the same person.
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Offline Mega-fin

Re: Disturbing Article: SSPX & Chorbishop Spinoza
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2019, 09:38:22 PM »
Well besides all this, he’s a big face for the Remnant and CFN and a speaker at the CIC, friend of the SSPX, FSSP and ICK ... a tradcuмenist, we’re all ok, no principles. +ABL is ok, it’s also ok to stab him in the back. As long as we all have pretty liturgy and say some conservatives things. It’s all good! 

Chorbishop Anthony Spinosa will be another face who will fade in with the indult Michael Matt/Chris Ferreira crowd. 

I think his friendship to the nuSociety says more about it in this regard then it does about him. 
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Offline Incredulous

Re: Disturbing Article: SSPX & Chorbishop Spinoza
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2019, 10:32:41 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson on June 30, 2019, 06:01:02 PM
My own thought is that it would be incredibly reckless of this Chorbishop to like/friend the person and establishment in question, knowing his activity would be open to the gaze of the whole world, and this realization in turn heavily implies some other explanation beside his personal guilt (e.g., such as has been discussed above).
Oh, he was just probably "reaching-out" to the sinners"

Funny, I don't recall Max Krah ever denying his facebook content?
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