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Offline Jack in the Box

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« on: August 23, 2012, 02:08:20 PM »
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  • Report of the August 12, 2012 Sunday's Mass celebrated at the St. Thomas Chapel in Carson City by Father Rostand. A commentary, by a layman.

    Capsule:
    •The object of this posting is to demonstrate that the Superior General is conducting a political campaign.
    •That the campaign currently conducted is merciless.
    •That priests are being subject to pressures.
    •That important players within the Society such as bishops are not only being silenced, but are simply becoming non-existent.
    •That the said political campaign is dirty, and perhaps that in the passing away of Father Schoonbrood, it is now stained with the blood of a martyr.
    •And lastly, that priests, who are holy men must not aware of what is going-on, because laymen such as me, an admited wicked person, should never have had to write thoses lines.

    Fr. Arnault Rostand is conducting a political campaign. Under the pretense of visiting tours he engages in briefings of the situation of the SSPX towards Rome. His briefings are both biased and incomplete.
     
    I say biased because he uses strong words to admonish the opponents to Bishop Bernard Fellay. The word of choice used by the Superior General is "sedevacantist". This is not true, because the Catholics recognize the Pope, and in fact the faithful of the Society, who are true Catholics -of the Catholic Faith defined by the Athanisian Creed- are praying for the intentions of the Holy Father every day privately, -even if the Holy Father is openly acting as a traitor. The faithful also pray for the Holy Father during Mass as well in the canon prayer of the "Te igitur, clementisisime, etc which includes una cuм famulo tuo Papa nostro Benedicti". The naming "sedevacantist" by Fr. Rostand of the opponents to the negociations with a Pope who is not faithful and steadfast to the Athanesian Creed is false. It is name-calling. The Superior General is therefore conducting in a name-calling campaign. He is political. He intends to demonize the ones who are against untimely negotiations with a papacy which is openly embracing the spirit of Assisi, and therefore which is stranger to keeping the Catholic Faith entire and inviolate. The faithfuls who disagree with the actions of the Pope are not sedevacantists, they are simply aware of the errors of a Pope -and are aware that God is either punishing us all, or has deliberately allowed the scuttling of His Church. Furthermore the faithful who oppose Bishop Fellay are aware that Menzingen has gone too far in conducting behind closed doors negotiations with an apostate Rome.
     
    I say incomplete, because Fr. Rostand, in his briefing did not say a word about two bishops who are currently in exile in lands where the language spoken is not their mother tongue. It is evident that Bishop Tissier de Malleray, a Frenchman by excellence is out of place in Chicago, and that Bishop de Galeretta, who speaks Spanish, should not be in Geneva. This is a misuse of half of the prelates of the (true) Catholic Church. Father Rostand spoke of defections of priests among the Society. This indicates that he opened the subject of internal affair within the Society, and his omission of the grave situation of having fifty percent of its prelates being currently in exile proves that Father Rostand is political.
     
    So the Superior General is conducting in a political campaign. An election is apparently up and coming, and the electors will be the priests of the fraternity. Why would the Superior General conduct a political campaign on the pulpit, since the faithful will have no say in the re-election of Bishop Fellay? Simple: Priests are holy men, they are apolitical, and may be easily influenced. The priests may also be intimidated. I'll give you an example of such a case of intimidation: the Los Gatos Retreat lost its operating permit from the local authorities during several months of the year 2011. The "loss of operation" was suddenly lifted when Cardinal Levada resumed "behind closed doors" negotiations with the SSPX. It is to be reminded that William Cardinal Levada, Prefect of the CDF is the Archbishop Emeritus of San Francisco. As a registered parishioner of his Cathedral of St Mary of the Assumption, I somewhat know the man. He has proved to be "decisive" if not brutal once by closing down fourteen churches in a single day. Would the "loss of operation", and the sudden "regaining of a permit to operate" of the Los Gatos Retreat Center being timed with "negotiations" be coincidental, or would it be the action of the hidden hand of some lodge?
     
    There is no question that Fr. Rostand is the spokesman of a political campaign. I say that his camp is playing hard-ball too. There is a disturbing affair that needs to be put under the light: It is the affair of the Les Sermons de Monseigneur Marcel Lefêbvre. A book was published back in 2010 containing sermons of our saintly Archbishop. The book is in three volumes. The sermons were public addresses, given in churches to a non-paying general public during the course of time of twenty years. The exception being a letter addressed in the format of an open letter to Fathers Tissier, Williamson, Fellay and de Galeretta on the eves of their episcopal ordination. The other execption being a few addresses by Bishop de Castro Mayer. The tone of all those addresses is lively as our good Archbishop was during his sermons, which tone is well known to all since those sermons are played during retreats (mainly during lunch-time). The regime of Menzingen has issued a ban of the publication of the Sermons, after having attempted to collect fees from Les Editions Saint Remi (source: Tradition In Action). Why would the regime of Menzingen, clearly represented by Father Rostand at the Massa in Carson City, Nevada of this past Sunday, and during its following Q&A session would insist of a ban of the sermons of its spiritual father? The answer given last Sunday was about copyrights. This answer given by the Superior General is an insult! The real answer should be that the ban of those Sermons was political. Our Archbishop met with our current Pope, and the ban of the Sermons was due to political correctness. Shame on you Father Rostand!
     
    Now let me place the "affairs of the Sermons" to a different level. A priest of the SSPX named Father Shoonbrood was likely a major player in the publication of the volumes. He was old-guard within the Society. He also was the editor of the web-site Virgo Maria, as well as of its companion web-site Rore Sanctificate, explaining why the episcopal ordination of post June 18, 1968 by the post Vatican church are invalid, thus jeopardizing the Apostolic Succession. Those said web-sites were spirited, and insisively informative to say the least. Bishop Fellay filed a lawsuit against the priest. Father Shoonbrood was even detained and roughed-up by the Belgian authorities. The priest became vociferous on his web-site. It was clear that Fr. Schoonbrood was not going away quietly, and a likely show trial was on its way, then Fr. Schoonbrood died! How did he die? A "car accident". Car accidents is the number one cause for murder. Would the hand of some lodge be behind? The answer to this question will come, and in any case both heaven and hell know exactly what happen to Father Schoonbrood, and everyone of us, either in hell or heaven will learn what happened to this priest who certainly was already a martyr as Monsignors Lefêbvre and de Castro Mayer were.
     
    It is clear that a warfare is going-on within the SSPX, as well as within the rest of the church. It is clear that Father Arnault Rostand is not a non-partisan. The mask is taken out and since he conducted in the name calling game during this last Sunday's Mass at Carson City in falsely labeling "sedevacantists" the opponents to the regime of Menzingen could continue to up the antes. I would not be a part of such a game, because I am no saint to cast a first stone, however, I'd like to publicly ask the Superior General of the SSPX of the United States what he exactly means by "novelties". Father Rostand used this particular word to criticize the post Vatican church during his homely, however as a priest he seemed to have used "novelties" himself during this Mass of last Sunday, because he had skipped the Epistle, in going directly to the Gradual. Then after the homely, during the Offertory's silent prayer of Psalm 25, there must have been a sudden "speed-up" in his delivery of the prayers: It take almost a minute to go from the "Lavabo inter innocentes manus meas" to the last words of "Suscipe sancta Trinitas" 's last words, prior to the loudly said "Orate frates, etc.". Father Arnault Rostand said such silent prayers in just a few seconds... I am only a layman, but it appeared that our District Superior took short-cuts in the delivery of the Tridentine Mass. Perhaps priests may explain..., of may be Father Rostand was engaging in novelties by truncating the Mass of All Time. A sign, that the modernists within the Society intend to use novelties after their anricipated attachement to the consiliars.
     
     


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    « Reply #1 on: August 24, 2012, 09:26:02 AM »
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  • Those of us who are not  in the US are wondering what the reaction of the faithful there is? How much support is estimated for Menzingen, +Fellay and Fr Rostand? and what estimated percentage of the faithful are against all this political manoeuvering? Are Mons Tissier de Mallerais and Mons de Galarreta obliged to reside in the US and Geneva respectively? Do they not have a choice?

    Surely Mons Fellay, apart from being the Sup Gen, is just another of the 4 bishops? I am curious as to what the SSPX constitution says...?

    We hear nothing from down under,  ie Australia and New Zealand; what goes on there? Apart from Fr Black, I don't know who all the other priests are over there. Are the faithful in general agreement with Menzingen? We don't seem to hear anything from them. Just curious...  :scratchchin:

    I think that we have a problem where the Spanish-speaking countries are concerned, as well as with the French, as it is difficult to gauge the activity and reactions to what we are currently reading about in the States.


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    « Reply #2 on: August 24, 2012, 11:10:06 AM »
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  • Quote from: Jack in the Box
    ...There is a disturbing affair that needs to be put under the light: It is the affair of the Les Sermons de Monseigneur Marcel Lefêbvre. A book was published back in 2010 containing sermons of our saintly Archbishop. The book is in three volumes. The sermons were public addresses, given in churches to a non-paying general public during the course of time of twenty years. .....The regime of Menzingen has issued a ban of the publication of the Sermons, after having attempted to collect fees from Les Editions Saint Remi (source: Tradition In Action). .... The answer given last Sunday was about copyrights. This answer given by the Superior General is an insult! The real answer should be that the ban of those Sermons was political. ..

    Now let me place the "affairs of the Sermons" to a different level. A priest of the SSPX named Father Shoonbrood was likely a major player in the publication of the volumes. He was old-guard within the Society. He also was the editor of the web-site Virgo Maria, as well as of its companion web-site Rore Sanctificate, explaining why the episcopal ordination of post June 18, 1968 by the post Vatican church are invalid, thus jeopardizing the Apostolic Succession. Those said web-sites were spirited, and insisively informative to say the least. Bishop Fellay filed a lawsuit against the priest. Father Shoonbrood was even detained and roughed-up by the Belgian authorities. The priest became vociferous on his web-site. It was clear that Fr. Schoonbrood was not going away quietly, and a likely show trial was on its way, then Fr. Schoonbrood died! How did he die? A "car accident". Car accidents is the number one cause for murder. Would the hand of some lodge be behind? The answer to this question will come, and in any case both heaven and hell know exactly what happen to Father Schoonbrood, and everyone of us, either in hell or heaven will learn what happened to this priest who certainly was already a martyr as Monsignors Lefêbvre and de Castro Mayer were.


    Very insightfull, Abp. Lefebvres writings silenced, and Fr. Schoobrood's writings about the invalidity of practically ALL the conciliar bishops (and thus priests ordained by them), disappears after his accidental death.

    Fr. Cekada and many others have been writing about the invalidity of episcopal ordinations for some time. See:

    Quote from: Clint
    I thought this would make a good subject for a thread. What could be more important? If all the bishops consecrated using the  new rite of episcopal consecration, are not bishops, then all the priests that they ordain are not priests, whether ordained in the new rite or the old. Benedict XVI was consecrated a bishop using the new rite.

    Quote from: Nishant2011
    Anyway, to your earlier statement, which I suppose casted doubt on the validity of Archbishop Cordileone's consecration, there are plenty of excellent, detailed and thorough studies by the SSPX and others that show the new rites are valid.


    From Article : Why the New Bishops Are Not True Bishops
    http://www.novusordowatch.org/nobishops.pdf

    "I completed the article on March 25,2006. I noticed later that this date was the
    fifteenth anniversary of Archbishop Lefebvre ’s death. This I considered providential, because the Archbishop himself had personally told me in the 1970s that he considered the new rite of episcopal consecration invalid"

    "In the summer of 2005, a group of French traditionalists published the first
    volume of Rore Sanctifica, a book-length dossier of docuмentation and commentary on the Paul VI Rite of Episcopal Consecration. (www.rore-sanctifica.org) The study, featuring on its cover side-by side
    photos of Ratzinger and SSPX Superior General Mgr. Bernard Fellay, concluded
    that the new rite was invalid.
    (Three additional volumes have appeared
    since.)"



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    « Reply #3 on: August 24, 2012, 11:17:31 AM »
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  • This is what alarms me the most about the new SSPX regime; they work in the dark, they hide their objectives from us. That, I believe is what has everyone here alarmed. This had never existed before in the SSPX.



    But he that doth truth, cometh to the light, that his works may be made manifest, because they are done in God. (John 3:21)

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    « Reply #4 on: August 24, 2012, 01:38:53 PM »
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  • Dear Jack in the box,

    I do appreciate your post. However, it would help your credibility if you could please
    spell the names of the two bishops correctly:

    +Alfonso de Galarreta

    +Tissier de Mallerais.




    Quote from: Clint
    This is what alarms me the most about the new SSPX regime; they work in the dark, they hide their objectives from us. That, I believe is what has everyone here alarmed. This had never existed before in the SSPX.



    But he that doth truth, cometh to the light, that his works may be made manifest, because they are done in God. (John 3:21)


    Disconcerting, to be sure!

    It is an ERROR OF RUSSIA to conceal the teachings of the Church, therefore, we
    must conclude that whatever it is, they are up to NO GOOD, and nothing good can
    come of it, be it what it may.
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  • Spelling again: Fr. Paul Schoonbroodt


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    It is clear that a warfare is going-on within the SSPX, as well as within the rest of the church. It is clear that Father Arnault Rostand is not a non-partisan. The mask is taken out and since he conducted in the name calling game during this last Sunday's Mass at Carson City in falsely labeling "sedevacantists" the opponents to the regime of Menzingen could continue to up the antes. I would not be a part of such a game, because I am no saint to cast a first stone, however, I'd like to publicly ask the Superior General of the SSPX of the United States what he exactly means by "novelties". Father Rostand used this particular word to criticize the post Vatican church during his homely, however as a priest he seemed to have used "novelties" himself during this Mass of last Sunday, because he had skipped the Epistle, in going directly to the Gradual. Then after the homely, during the Offertory's silent prayer of Psalm 25, there must have been a sudden "speed-up" in his delivery of the prayers: It take almost a minute to go from the "Lavabo inter innocentes manus meas" to the last words of "Suscipe sancta Trinitas" 's last words, prior to the loudly said "Orate frates, etc.". Father Arnault Rostand said such silent prayers in just a few seconds... I am only a layman, but it appeared that our District Superior took short-cuts in the delivery of the Tridentine Mass. Perhaps priests may explain..., of may be Father Rostand was engaging in novelties by truncating the Mass of All Time. A sign, that the modernists within the Society intend to use novelties after their anricipated attachement to the conciliars.


    One of the key differences in everything Novus Ordo compared to the
    Canonized Traditional Latin Mass, is the truncation of material. They provide
    numerous "options" for the pres-byter to use, and in practice, it most usually
    comes down to taking the shortest route.

    This practice is quite offensive to God. Our Lady came to the shepherd children at
    Fatima and told them they should not abbreviate their prayers. The Angel of Portugal
    had also instructed them about that. The children had been shortening their Rosary
    to saying "Hail Mary; Holy Mary. Hail Mary; Holy Mary..." Certainly, their intentions
    were not evil, for they were saying what they thought to be the Rosary, only more
    quickly so they could get to their anticipated games they wanted to play.

    Our Lady also told them to not pray the prayers too quickly. How many even today
    pay no attention to this, but rush through their prayers? This causes a loss of grace,
    and tends to dissipate devotion. When said in a group, it causes tensions, for the
    ones who have habitually done their prayers too quickly get upset with those who
    are "praying too slowly!" And in other languages, it causes division, for example,
    it's practically impossible to say the Dios te salve Maria as quickly (in Spanish) as it is
    to say the Hail Mary in English. So the Hispanics who say their Rosary in their own
    language (because they don't know English) find themselves always behind, which
    makes them feel marginalized or "not up to speed." To remedy this, some of them
    take to rapid-fire words, which is possible, but it fairly evacuates the prayers of
    their piety and devotion.

    To hear that Fr. Rostand is making such a scandalous example, it can only be from
    a spirit of subversion. He is not immune from knowledge. He knows exactly what
    he is doing. I could most easily speculate on his intentions, but I don't have to. We
    all know what they are.

    He is using example as a means of effecting a transition. We have been here
    before. How many worldly churchgoers praise any priest who "gets through the
    Mass" more quickly than another one? These same worldlings would be entirely
    miserable assisting at the Mass of any of the Saints of the Church! We are not
    there to "get it out of the way" so we can get on to something more fun. The time
    we have at Mass is an ETERNAL BLESSING, for those in Purgatory have no such
    time any more, and only regrets for not having used the time they were given
    more wisely.

    And those in hell, as it were, regret ever having been to Mass at all!

    (...It is only with deep repugnance and unspeakable disgust that I write words such as pray, Mass, holy water, and church. I profoundly detest those who go to church, as well as everyone and everything in general. For us, everything is a torment. Everything we come to understand at death, every recollection of life and of what we know, becomes a burning flame.4... -- 4. Saint Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, Supplement (New York: Benzinger Brothers, Inc., 1948), Q.98, art. 7 – “in the damned there will be actual consideration of the things they knew heretofore as matters of sorrow, but not as a cause of pleasure. For they will consider both the evil they have done, and for which they were damned, and the delightful goods they have lost, and on both counts they will suffer torments.” [back to text]  http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/The-Letter-from-Beyond-a-story-of-one-woman-s-life )
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    « Reply #6 on: August 24, 2012, 02:37:58 PM »
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    Those of us who are not  in the US are wondering what the reaction of the faithful there is? How much support is estimated for Menzingen, +Fellay and Fr Rostand? and what estimated percentage of the faithful are against all this political manoeuvering? Are Mons Tissier de Mallerais and Mons de Galarreta obliged to reside in the US and Geneva respectively? Do they not have a choice?

    Surely Mons Fellay, apart from being the Sup Gen, is just another of the 4 bishops? I am curious as to what the SSPX constitution says...?

    We hear nothing from down under,  ie Australia and New Zealand; what goes on there? Apart from Fr Black, I don't know who all the other priests are over there. Are the faithful in general agreement with Menzingen? We don't seem to hear anything from them. Just curious...  :scratchchin:

    I think that we have a problem where the Spanish-speaking countries are concerned, as well as with the French, as it is difficult to gauge the activity and reactions to what we are currently reading about in the States.



    1531,

    Yes, you're right about the new Menzingen tactic... an SSPX news black-out
    to help control the proliferation of "evil sede rumors"...  or until they can systematically strangle the opposition.

    The weekly reports posted on Catholicinfo of sermons, comments and events from the SSPX chapels is the most efficient way to keep the "SSPX Resistance" informed.

    By the way, did you hear anything about an open protest letter sent by the Australian District faithful to Bp. Fellay?  

    I'm curious to know if the Australian's District has "true grit" like the British District does?  

    I wish the American District faithful would launch an open letter to Menzingen requesting the resignation of Msgr. Fellay.


    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #7 on: August 24, 2012, 03:02:56 PM »
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  • Fr. Paul Schoonbroodt's websites are miraculously still viewable:

    ...In the final annex to this VM message, we do invite our readers – be they clergymen or laymen – to read,
    reread and meditate on the INFALLIBLE encyclical text Humanum Genus of April 20, 1884, from the
    Magisterium of Pope Leo XIII, by which this Pontiff infallibly exposes, denounces and condemns the "Sect
    of the Freemasons", as well as their "misleading" methods and their "infamous and criminal enterprises."
    While considering the INFALLIBLE terms chosen by Pope Leo XIII to passionately condemn Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ by
    his encyclical Humanum Genus, the Catholic readers, clergy or laymen, will be able to measure the
    ABSOLUTELY MOST SERIOUS character of the public approval from a confirmed, acknowledged,
    enthusiast Gnostic freemason program book of Father Celier for the joining of the SSPX with the
    Masonic, globalist, apostate, “ecuмenical” Conciliar church.
    Leo XIII points his finger at the secret methods of the Masonic sect:
    "Undoubtedly, one can see that they belong to the family of clandestine corporations, and that they
    behave like them. They have, in fact, kinds of mysteries that their constitution forbids with the
    greatest care to divulge, not only to people outside, but even to a considerable number of their
    followers."

    And what does Bishop Fellay show since the year 2000 in the SSPX? The same Masonic methods of
    secrecy!...

    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2009/VM-2009-11-11-A-00-Question-about-Bishop-Fellay.pdf
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    « Reply #8 on: August 24, 2012, 03:14:45 PM »
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    Quote from: 1531
    Those of us who are not  in the US are wondering what the reaction of the faithful there is? How much support is estimated for Menzingen, +Fellay and Fr Rostand? and what estimated percentage of the faithful are against all this political manoeuvering? Are Mons Tissier de Mallerais and Mons de Galarreta obliged to reside in the US and Geneva respectively? Do they not have a choice?

    Surely Mons Fellay, apart from being the Sup Gen, is just another of the 4 bishops? I am curious as to what the SSPX constitution says...?

    We hear nothing from down under,  ie Australia and New Zealand; what goes on there? Apart from Fr Black, I don't know who all the other priests are over there. Are the faithful in general agreement with Menzingen? We don't seem to hear anything from them. Just curious...  :scratchchin:

    I think that we have a problem where the Spanish-speaking countries are concerned, as well as with the French, as it is difficult to gauge the activity and reactions to what we are currently reading about in the States.



    1531,

    Yes, you're right about the new Menzingen tactic... an SSPX news black-out
    to help control the proliferation of "evil sede rumors"...  or until they can systematically strangle the opposition.


    In light of the Virgo-Maria websites of Fr. Schoonbroodt, it becomes clear that this
    "anti-sedevacantist" attack from Menzingen is just a smokescreen. They're using
    it like a "good cop/bad cop" schtick or like the "right vs. left" political ruse. They
    don't have any problem with sedevacantism. They don't even believe in the
    papacy themselves. The pope is good for what power he can wield over the
    clueless minions. But they PRETEND to have a problem with sedevacantism
    because then they can use it as a straw man to attack it.

    It's all a game! We are being played for fools. The three good bishops no doubt
    know this, but they can't come out and say it openly because it would be too
    upsetting for the faithful.


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    The weekly reports posted on Catholicinfo of sermons, comments and events from the SSPX chapels is the most efficient way to keep the "SSPX Resistance" informed.

    By the way, did you hear anything about an open protest letter sent by the Australian District faithful to Bp. Fellay?  

    I'm curious to know if the Australian's District has "true grit" like the British District does?  

    I wish the American District faithful would launch an open letter to Menzingen requesting the resignation of Msgr. Fellay.[/color]




    The time has come for all the good priests of the SSPX to come together and
    OUST this criminal mole +Fellay while there is still time. +Fellay is afraid of their
    power as a united whole, and it's the only thing that he's afraid of.
    The sooner
    the good priests recognize this fact, the better.




    +Fellay's deep, dark secret is his Freemasonic alliance, to which Fr. Rostand seems
    to be privy. He is terrified of this becoming public knowledge, UNLESS, that
    is, Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ isn't so objectionable to enough of the SSPX faithful.

    Therefore, as Fr. Schoonbroodt so aptly admonishes: we are well-advised to make
    a studied understanding of Humanum Genus, 1884, and know that Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ
    is our principle enemy in these last days!
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    « Reply #9 on: August 24, 2012, 03:53:06 PM »
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    This cult of the secret keeps on spreading in the government of the SSPX by Bishop Fellay. The so
    called doctrinarian "discussions” with the Rome of the antichrists, by which the Swiss bishop risks the future
    of the FSSPX, will unfold themselves in secrecy, behind CLOSED DOORS.

    And now, in a new boost of secrecy, even the names of the members of the Commission will remain
    secret!

    Discussions BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, by persons that do not unveil their identity to the public, does
    that not remind you of something? This is exactly the way that the Masonic Lodge functions.

    We cannot but notice that Bishop Fellay imposes on the FSSPX the way of functioning of the Masonic
    Lodge: this is a FACT.

    Quite the opposite of Bishop Fellay and the Lodge, Bishop Lefebvre applied the Catholic way of
    behaving: he kept his relations with Rome seen and known by the faithful and did not hesitate to solicit
    the opinion of laymen.

    How to explain that, since 2000, the year of the pilgrimage to Rome, the Direction* of the SSPX has
    arrived at adopting the methods of functioning of the Masonic Lodge?

    And this in an ever increasing way since the visit of Bishop Fellay to the apostate priest Ratzinger-
    Benedict XVI on August 29, 2005?


    Ask your priests and your bishops:

    • How is it possible that the [Directorship]* of the SSPX promotes
    and sells this Masonic program book without any penalty?

    • How is it possible that Bishop Fellay imposes this Masonic
    policy by terror?

    • Do you want our children to finish in the Lodge?



    Go to the site PDF and see, the figure  is three asterisks arranged as
    a pyramid, something like this:

    .*
    **

     
    *The word, "Direction" seems to be a translation problem, and ought to be
    "Directorship" in English.



    It should be rather obvious now that the reason Fr. Schoonbroodt was sued and
    then "offed" was that he was all too close to the real, dirty secret of +Fellay & Co.
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  • Then follows the Chronology:  

    [Note: for anyone who has been moaning for "a copy of the Preamble" or what
    has been going on behind closed doors, this book is a road map of the entire
    process of assimilation of the SSPX into the Freemasonic web of deceit that
    currently ensnares the Vatican and keeps the Church hostage. Our only hope of a
    more succinct explanation and admonition would be the Third Secret of Fatima, the
    words of Our Lady. And therefore, this book, as like all the other evidence we
    have to go by, is the REASON THE THIRD SECRET IS STILL CONCEALED: for it
    shows that this deep, dark secret held by B16 and now +Fellay as well -- presuming
    he has read the Third Secret but if he hasn't then he's a "useful idiot" in their
    employ -- is kept for fear of the HEEL of OUR LADY which will crush the head of
    the serpent. And She shall crush his head whether they release the Third Secret
    or not.]




    Chronology of the publication and circulation of the Masonic program book within the District
    of France of the SSPX for two years with the total support and active participation of Father de
    Cacqueray




    Table of contents


    1. The publication on March 12, 2007, of the joining program book by Father Celier, edited by and
    with a foreword of Jean-Luc Maxence, a not yet acknowledged freemason of the GLF .................... 7
    2. The first publicity campaign (May-June 2007) of Father Celier in 12 priories of the District of France
    to distribute his program book "Benedict XVI and the traditionalists", edited and prefaced by the
    freemason of the GLF .................................................................................................................... 11
    3. On July 7, 2007, Benedict XVI published the Motu Proprio. Four months before the joining program
    book of Father Celier has appeared. This release of the Motu is framed by the two campaigns of Father Celier
    in the priories, for his program book edited by and with a foreword of a follower of the GLF ......... 15
    4. On October 5, 2007, Bishop Fellay’s nomination of Father Celier (edited by and with a foreword of a
    FM) is revealed in the theological commission responsible for the preparation of the "discussions" with
    Rome. ........................................................................................................................................................... 17
    5. The second publicity campaign (October-December 2007) of Father Celier in 9 priories of the District of
    France to distribute his program book "Benedict XVI and the traditionalists", edited by and with a foreword
    of a freemason of the GLF .................................................................................................................. 18
    6. On the 1st of December, 2007, a university circle violently attacks Father Celier’s philosophical
    work ("the mortal god"), for being an "initiatory guide to apostasy" .................... Erreur ! Signet non défini.
    7. In March 2008, the hidden, but unmasked campaign of Father Celier to spread a second docuмent about
    the joining among the clergy of the SSPX ................................................................................................... 19
    8. From June to August 2008, Father Celier, helped by Father Lorans, with insolence, and as if he has
    nothing to fear, hushes up the rebellion of Bishop Fellay and the bishops of the Fraternity (SSPX) against the
    ultimatum urged by Rome at the beginning June 2008 ................................................................................ 19
    9. In October 2008, Jean-Luc Maxence, editor of Father Celier, reveals his affiliation "since decades" to the
    Grande  Loge  de France  (Grand Lodge of France) .............................................................................. 24
    10. On the 1st of February 2009, Emmanuel Ratier passes on the information about Jean-Luc Maxence’s
    Masonic affiliation in the Faits & Docuмents magazine .................................................................................... 25
    11. In March 2009, the magazine of the Dominican Fathers of Avrillé (Sel de la Terre) tells about the
    Masonic affiliation of Jean-Luc Maxence ....................................................................................................... 26
    12. May 10 2009, in his lecture to the IUSPX on subversion, Father Chautard, first curate of the Church of St.
    Nicolas du Chardonnet, makes the Masonic affiliation of Jean-Luc Maxence known ........................................ 27
    13. In June 2009, the parish bulletin of the Church of St. Nicolas du Chardonnet, ("Le Chardonnet") makes
    the Masonic affiliation of Jean-Luc Maxence known ....................................................................................... 27
    14. In July 2009, VM establishes the link between the program book of Father Celier and the Masonic
    affiliation of Jean-Luc Maxence to the GLF ............................................................................................. 28
    15. By the end of August 2009, although directly incriminated and finding his reputation damaged by the
    scandal, Bishop Fellay insists on supporting the Fathers Celier and De Cacqueray and the Masonic political
    exposition in the program book "Benedict XVI and the traditionalists" .................... Erreur ! Signet non défini.




    Each title has content, up to two pages............




    1. The publication on March 12, 2007 of the joining program book by Father
    Celier, edited by and with a foreword of Jean-Luc Maxence, a not yet
    acknowledged freemason of the GLF


    • January 17, 2007: Announcement by Entrelacs Publishers, directed by Jean-Luc Maxence
    o "Entrelacs Publishers (an affiliate of Albin-Michel) will publish on March, 12, a book by Father
    Grégoire Celier and Olivier Pichon: Benedict XVI and the traditionalists.
    The third part, "Future", the most original one of the book, constitutes a systematic presentation
    of the links of the Pius X Fraternity (SSPX) with Rome, notably in the matter of the famous
    "agreements".
    The first chapter, entitled "Triangulation10", returns to that which the SSPX has called the two
    "preconditions", i.e. total liberty for each priest to celebrate the traditional mass (before
    Vatican II), and the lifting of the Roman excommunications of 1988 regarding the four auxiliary
    bishops of the SSPX and the two bishops that consecrated them. Replying to the objections of
    Olivier Pichon, Father Celier explains why and how the SSPX has proposed these two
    preconditions to Rome before any other discussion.
    The title of the second chapter - to be understood while reading - is "Messe pipaule". This
    chapter primarily treats the "doctrinal discussions”, which must constitute, according to the
    SSPX, the second step of the process of reconciliation. While replying to the questions of Olivier
    Pichon, Father Celier tries to show, through some historic examples, that in the eyes of the SSPX
    it would be possible from this day to advance these discussions with Rome. This chapter - the
    most original of the work - also proposes future perspectives for the Church, perspectives
    that are astonishing, indeed, explosive from a “traditionalist” priest.
    The third chapter, entitled "Fable du héron", (The Fable of the Heron) wants to reply to the
    central objection of Olivier Pichon: "Isn’t now the right moment to sign, because the election of
    Benedict XVI is a historic chance for you? If you do not sign today, might you not risk losing
    all?" Having explained the history of the previous agreements, Father Celier explains in detail
    why, in the current circuмstances, the SSPX does not envisage signing an agreement with Rome

    [Footnote]:
    10 Father Celier gives the first chapter of the third part (“Future” (sic)) of his program book of joining of the SSPX
    with Rome the title “Triangulation”, which would only make sense to a Masonic reader, and thus retain his
    attention from the start.
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    [that's a page number]


    in the short run, even if it considers that the position can brutally and quickly change into its
    favor, which would then motivate the signature of such a agreement ."
    • February 28, 2007: Father Celier exposes the official policy of the rapports of the SSPX with
    Rome on Radio Courtoisie:
    "Effectively, there is a general position that, on a certain number of items, a reflection is
    evolving in the heart of the Fraternity that tries to adapt itself to this position (…). The
    Apostolic See can very well return this favor to the Tradition in any other form (…).We do not
    say that these two preconditions are absolutely obligatory if in another way, for example, the
    Apostolic See would show that the love of the Tradition, of the Church, is put back in force (…)"
    "Concerning the 'doctrinal debates', I explicitly say that right now this is the formula that
    Bishop Fellay gave, but he is open to what might happen in various ways (…). In the book I
    explicitly say, I even remind that we envisage to make a canonical agreement, even if all
    problems have not yet been solved, provided that there is a real change of direction" (Father
    Celier on Radio Courtoisy, February 28, 2007).
    • March 11, 2007: VM11 exposes the facts and questions Father Celier for his pro-joining book:
    "The dangerous drifts of Father Celier denounced by a faithful. The growing outcry of the faithful of the
    SSPX against the network of the modernist infiltrators. "
    • March 12 2007: In "Benedict XVI and the traditionalists" Father Celier exposes the program of
    joining the SSPX with the modernistic Rome
    In the foreword to Father Celier’s work, the then yet concealed freemason Jean-Luc Maxence,
    declares to welcome the success of the joining – that he names with a euphemism
    "rapprochement" – of the SSPX to the apostate priest Ratzinger-Benedict XVI:
    Nevertheless, until then - and "for decades12"- Mr. Jean-Luc Maxence had never revealed his
    active and fervent membership of the ‘ateliers’ of the GLF to the ignorant and
    credulous traditionalist readers of the weekly Monde & Vie, of which the latter constituted the
    bulk of its readership, which very well characterizes the habitual method of insinuation and
    deception denounced for ages by the infallible Magisterium of the Holy Church and of its
    Pontiffs (cf. for example Leo XIII, 1884, Encyclical Humanum Genus).

    11 http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2007/VM-2007-03-11-A-01-Derives_abbe_Celier_par_un_fidele.pdf
    12 According to his own terms, published at the end of 2008 in his book La Loge et le Divan.

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    [page 10 contains images that I can't copy, of the BOOK open]
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    "I began my activities as a journalist in 1966, a year after the end of the Vatican II council. Being
    Catholic, I have from this era been fascinated by the different currents of thought that confronted
    themselves within the Church of Rome. I was having a regular section of "poetry" in the Monde et
    Vie weekly, and as I was part of the editing team of this publication close to the Catholic
    "traditionalist", although in no way being "expert" in religious questions, I could talk with Archbishop
    Marcel Lefebvre, Father François Ducaud Bourget, Michel de Saint Pierre and some other figureheads
    of this current.
    "I was not thirty years old yet, and I was hoping then for a "spring of the Church". I believed the
    virtues of Vatican II, with the faith of an exalted sixty-eighter. I even ended up being responsible for a
    polemic work on the subject, a pamphlet that advocated a frank separation from those that the late
    Jacques Maritain, in his work Le Paysan de la Garonne, baptized those still "Ruminating the Holy
    Alliance", in other words, the "fundamentalists ".
    "Almost thirty years have passed, and still the same questions remain. Vatican II has not at all filled the
    churches, especially in the West, this is the least one can say.
    "I have no intention to get in a certain soft and stupid repentance. However, it seemed to me useful,
    especially at a time when Pope Benedict XVI courageously wants to mend the torn tunic of the
    Church, to propose to the journalist Olivier Pichon and to Father Grégoire Celier to talk without using
    diplomatic language, with absolute liberty, on the question of a rapprochement between the
    Fraternity of Saint Pius X and Rome. Is it not just the objective of the Connivences Collection to
    offer a space for the exchange of ideas beyond habitual ideological divides?
    "I do not regret this initiative. Better: it seems to me undeniable that this discussion lights up the points
    of view of each, and that it can constitute an important brick in the structure of reconciliation that I
    personally hope to be possible.”
    The Director of the “Connivences” Collection (Jean-Luc Maxence, FM of the Grande 
    Loge de France  according to the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite13)
    • March 13, 2007: while VM14 wonders about the Gnostic ideas of Father Celier’s editor, Jean-Luc
    Maxence: "The thoughts of Bishop Fellay edited by an admirer of the gnosis? The book of
    13 « F∴M∴ of the Grande∴ Loge∴ de France∴ according to the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite ». Only by reading number
    269 (February 1st to 15th, 2009) of Emmanuel Ratier’s Faits & Docuмents, after the publication in October 2008 (copyright
    registration) of Jean-Luc Maxence’s book « La Loge et le Divan » (Dervy-Books, specialized in esoteric works), can the public
    learn these last facts and qualifications. Not even a word from the feather of Mr. Jean-Luc Maxence, psychoanalyst.

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    Father Celier, claiming to express the thoughts of Bishop Fellay, edited by J. L. Maxence, author
    of esoteric and Guénon inspired works "
    o The Vehementer magazine (published only on internet) reveals to us that Jean-Luc Maxence is
    strongly linked to Gnostic circles. It recalls that the latter already has published several
    works on esoteric subjects and on René Guénon, a highly initiated Gnostic. Vehementer is
    directed by some Dominican Fathers of Avrillé. It is to be distinguished from Sel de la Terre, a
    magazine directed by Father Pierre-Marie de Kergorlay."
    o "Father Celier claims, in fact, to speak in the name of Bishop Fellay while expressing
    exactly the latter’s thought. He even claims that his work was reread and approved by his
    Superiors. Bishop Fellay therefore, has accepted that, if Father Celier is to be believed – and
    if this is true, the situation is really very serious -, that his personal thought about the SSPX and
    its future, like on the very strategic item of the connections with Ratzinger (regions for which he
    as Superior General of the SSPX is personally responsible, and which he primarily is vested
    with) is expressed in a discussion with an editor, Mr. Jean-Luc Maxence, who has already
    published and distributed the following books: Jung and the future of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, 2004;
    L’égrégore; The collective psychological energy, Dervy, 2003; René Guénon, the invisible
    philosopher, 2001; Anthology of contemporary mystical poetry, 1999" VM




    Then it goes on to chapter 2. The First Publicity Campaign....
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    « Reply #11 on: August 24, 2012, 06:03:52 PM »
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  • Kelley and whoever else, these posts above are all contained in the PDF file linked
    in the first post, the website run by the (martyred?) Fr. Schoonbroodt:

    [Note the author, probably Fr. Schoonbroodt, repeatedly uses the term "the
    apostate priest Ratzinger-Benedict XVI"
    but because I am quoting his Virgo-Maria
    website it does not mean that I am sedevacantist. I do, however, respect his
    informed, priestly opinion, and I can read, say and copy this language without any
    scruple, except perhaps the scandal it might give to others who are not of my same
    mindset. I pray for the Holy Father at Mass, "una cuм," and my local bishop,
    Jose Gomez, even though I do not agree with them, nor do I follow their apostate
    Novus Ordo liturgy. These are indeed terrible times, and I do not envy the simple
    minded who are so easily thrown off the rails by the sinister and pernicious fog of
    diabolical disorientation that surrounds us in these terrible days.]

    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2009/VM-2009-11-11-A-00-Question-about-Bishop-Fellay.pdf



    [This is a portion of chapter 15. In the end of August 2009, directly questioned and damaged by the scandal,
    Bishop Fellay persists to support the Fathers Celier and de Cacqueray and the
    Masonic politics exposed in the program book "Benedict XVI and the
    traditionalists"]





    SOME CHRONOLOGICALLY CLARIFYING REMINDERS:

    Bishop Fellay, and especially Father de Cacqueray, Superior of the District of France, have applied
    themselves most actively - as we have recalled above - to condition the minds of the traditional clergy and
    faithful in order to prepare them for the publication of the Motu Proprio of the apostate priest Ratzinger-
    Benedict XVI. Their action has been well reinforced by public "lectures" that used, without quoting them, the
    ‘nice’ pages of the Masonic program book "Benedict XVI and the traditionalists". The book was at that time
    being compiled to appear six months later.

    Precisely for that reason Virgo-Maria took the initiative to publish very widely the solemn open letter of
    October 10, 2006 from the faithful of the Catholic Tradition to the four bishops.44.

    Looking back today, one gets a better understanding of the despising and incomprehensible stubborn
    silence that this solemn, anxious appeal – respectful and legitimate - has met from the side of the
    Fraternity’s bishops.

    Nevertheless, it is at this time as well, in October 2006 that Virgo-Maria could catch Bishop Fellay in a
    deliberate lie45 on October 12, 2006 in the microphone of Radio Courtoisie with the intention of
    cheating the listeners about his connections with the Roman Conciliar authorities.
    ____________________________________________________________

    44http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2006/VM-2006-10-10-A-00-Appel_aux_quatre_eveques_de_la_FSSPX.pdf
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2006/VM-2006-12-16-A-00-Video_lettre_aux_4_eveques.pdf

    45http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2006/VM-2006-10-19-A-00-L_abbe_Lorans_compromet_Mgr_Fellay.pdf
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2006/VM-2006-10-20-A-00-Les_mensonges_de_Mgr_Fellay.pdf
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2006/VM-2006-10-23-A-00-
    Traditio_denonce_le_mensonge_public_de_Mgr_Fellay_1.pdf
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2006/VM-2006-10-30-A-00-La_lettre_secrete_de_Hoyos_a_Mgr_Fellay.pdf

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    And then, on November 5, 2006, the Institute of the Good Shepherd is being established in the media, an
    institute integrated in the Masonic and globalist Conciliar Roman Church under the direction of the former vicar
    of Saint Nicolas du Chardonnet in Paris, Father Philippe Laguérie. Exactly on that day Father Lorans used
    the sacristy46 of this same church (although his former vicar, Father Beauvais47, was then apparently held
    in ignorance – according to his sermon on the pulpit) to summon a press conference to declare to the
    television news of Claire Chazal on France’s channel one TF1, right from the sacristy of Saint-Nicolas-du-
    Chardonnet, that he "feels demonized", and that he wishes "to find freedom of the city in the Church". This
    televised interview was resumed and broadcasted in prime time on the eight o’clock news of TF1 journalist
    Claire Chazal, thus offering world wide support for these matters by the weight of the picture of the
    church of Saint-Nicolas-du-Chardonnet, since 1977 known all over the world as "beacon church" of the
    resistance of the Catholic Tradition to the liturgical subversion of the globalist, Masonic and apostate
    Conciliar Church …

    After Father Celier’s and Father Lorans’s censorship of the very deliberate comments by which Bishop
    Fellay, at the Paris symposium of January 7, 2007, of "Si-si-No-no", had dared to criticize the very
    recent public apostasy - intensively covered by the media -, of the apostate priest Ratzinger-Benedict
    XVI at the blue mosque of Istanbul, that we have recalled above, Father Celier hurried to sell in Paris a
    booklet of 12 pages (“From Assisi to Istanbul”) devoted to the apostasy at the blue mosque48.

    The commentary of Father Celier aimed only to sweeten and to render acceptable the behavior of the
    apostate priest Ratzinger for the clergy and faithful, and to lessen within the SSPX the shock wave of
    the scandal caused by this apostasy.
    16 years to the day after the unexpected disappearance of Archbishop Lefebvre, and at the approach of the
    announced publication of the Motu Proprio of the apostate priest Ratzinger-Benedict XVI, on March 25,
    2007, Bishop Fellay - when questioned on the sacramental validity of the new Conciliar Order by a
    layman (obviously very closely connected with Suresnes and Menzingen) on his own internet site
    Donec Ponam, replying publicly for the first time to this most serious question (that already was the
    core of the solemn anxious public appeal of the faithful of October 2006 at the four bishops of the
    FSSPX, remaining unanswered even then) - dared to assert publicly the three following suggestions49,
    already anathemized for being in total contradiction with the constant and infallible Magisterium of the Holy
    Catholic Church and of its Pontiffs, on this vital question:

    • First suggestion:
    "As for the Priesthood (…), when a bishop confers the sacrament of the priesthood, even according to
    the new ritual, while observing the ritual prescriptions, especially if it is enunciated in Latin, the
    sacrament is a priori valid. (…) The same applies to the Episcopal consecration."

    • Second suggestion:
    "We must insist on the probability of the validity of an ordination"

    • Third suggestion:
    "The faithful must start from the a priori principle that these priests are ordained validly, for the
    invalidity of the ordination remains an exception. They will have therefore, to consider that an
    ordination, even modern, is valid."

    This ritual probabilism, particularly gravissime in the matter of the Holy Orders, intolerable, and harshly
    condemned by the Infallible Magisterium of the Holy Church, caused a stir among some priests of the
    SSPX, of whom Father Scott 50, at the time Superior of the District of Australia of the SSPX, recalled in
    _________________________________________________________

    46 http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2006/VM-2006-11-05-A-00-Abbe_Lorans_TF1_St_Nicolas.pdf
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles_HTML/2006/011_2006/VM-2006-11-05/2006-11-05_TF1_Lorans.mp3

    47 http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2009/VM-2009-08-12-A-00-Chardonnet_manipulateur.pdf

    48 http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2007/VM-2007-01-17-A-00-Mgr_Fellay_censure_par_infiltres_5.pdf
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2007/VM-2007-01-26-A-01-Plan%20de%20Matraquage_1.pdf
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2007/VM-2007-01-04-A-00-Ratzinger_apostasie_mosquee_bleue.pdf

    49 http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2007/VM-2007-06-04-A-00-Mgr_Fellay_Donec_Ponam.pdf
    http://www.rore-sanctifica.org/etudes/2007/RORE_Communique-2007-06-03_Probabilisme_Mgr_Fellay.pdf
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2008/VM-2008-12-27-A-00-Constellation_tutiorisme.pdf

    50 http://www.rore-sanctifica.org/etudes/2008/RORE_Communique-2008-09-25_Abbe_Scott-reordinations.pdf
    Father Scott distinguished himself by courageously denouncing the heresies contained in the encyclicals of the apostate priest
    Ratzinger-Benedict XVI, and especially by protesting from the day of its publication against the Motu Proprio which downdowngrades the
    Holy Tridentine Mass, hypocritically as much as impudently qualified by the apostate priest Ratzinger-Benedict XVI as “extraordinary form”, to a rank even lower than that of the Masonic sacrilegious and invalid Synaxis of Bugnini∴-Montini/PaulVI,
    described as “ordinary form of the SINGLE Latin rite of the Holy Catholic Mass”
    http://w ww.virgo-maria.org/articles/2007/VM-FLASH-2007-07-11-F-00-Abbe_Scott_contre_Unique_rite.pdf
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2007/VM-2007-07-14-C-00-Abbe_Scott_Motu_Proprio.pdf

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    an article published in the American magazine of the Fraternity The Angelus, the Tutiorist doctrine of
    the Church in the matter, while refuting this impious probabilism, advocated by Bishop Fellay in order not
    to foil the then imminent release of the Motu Proprio.

    In the end of April 2007, at the approach of the publication of the Motu Proprio of the apostate priest
    Ratzinger-Benedict XVI, Virgo-Maria, in the person of its then director Father Marchiset, is the object of
    a deliberate judicial aggression "in summary judgment", that was meant to be "mortal" and final, from
    a layman, obviously closely connected to Suresnes and Menzingen, aiming to financially ruin Father
    Marchiset, and especially to obtain the final closing of the site of religious information Virgo-Maria51,
    whose news items already disturb so many infiltrators within the SSPX.

    The protection of the Most Holy Virgin Mary, this admirable and powerful Mater Admirabilis, under
    whose special patronage this site Virgo-Maria has placed itself officially straightaway as early as its
    foundation in February 2006, has allowed Father Marchiset to miraculously overcome52 this most
    distressing episode, and to see his judicial expenses returned to almost the last penny.

    From 9 to 11 November 2007, The Fraternity of Saint Pius X has been organizing a Symposium in Paris in
    honor of the centennial of the encyclical Pascendi Dominis Gregis of Saint Pius X, the famous encyclical
    by which this Patron Saint of the Fraternity Saint Pius X, infallibly defined and condemned Modernism, and it
    had placed it under the aegis of Bishop Tissier de Mallerais, who was irresponsible for the final
    synthesis in his closing lecture.

    In this closing conference53 – from then on famous due to Virgo-Maria, Bishop Tissier de Mallerais
    made a minute analysis of the texts published by the apostate priest Ratzinger-Benedict XVI, before and after
    his "election" to the Pontificate, and showed the consistency and the coherence in time of the way of
    thinking of this heretical apostate, while demonstrating in what this renegade had to be qualified as a
    “Super Modernist”, according to the very criteria infallibly proclaimed a century ago by the great Pope
    Pius X.

    Knowing that this key lecture would be brutally censored by the infiltrated priests who shut off the media
    communication of the SSPX, Virgo-Maria has obtained a tape recording of it, and has made a
    meticulously exact verbatim account, and made sure that it got the widest publication among the
    clergy and the faithful of the Tradition, to the great displeasure of the infiltrated priests.

    This key text of the verbatim account of the closing lecture of Bishop Tissier even was resumed and
    published later by Max Barret, in his ‘Courrier de Tychique”, without daring to publicly identify its
    origin!

    And indeed, as Virgo-Maria had anticipated correctly, when the acts of this symposium were published
    eighteen months later in June 2009 by Suresnes (i.e. among others by the gang of Father Celier and
    Father Cocault-Duverger), the lecture and even the name of Bishop Tissier had completely disappeared
    from the work54, emulating the practices and methods of the editions under the Bolshevik system during its
    worst criminal periods!

    Let us, finally, add that, faced with the continuing factual and docuмented accusations of the crimes of the
    ex(?)-Anglican British Bishop Richard Williamson, the Fraternity’s bishop with the Rose, his n°1 mole,
    infiltrated since 1972 in the sacerdotal work of Archbishop Lefebvre, for years protector, organizer and
    promoter – although duly warned – of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ rapist predator priests in his Seminary of the SSPX in
    Winona, Father de Cacqueray, Superior of the District of France, has tried to silence particularly the
    factual an docuмented accusations of Virgo-Maria on this subject, in order to protect the Fraternity’s
    bishop with the Rose, and has since July 2008 tried to threaten, with harsh judicial pursuit Father
    Schoonbroodt, director of Virgo-Maria since February 2008, by one of his most close and most active
    layman cooperators of Suresnes.
    _______________________________________________________________

    51 http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2007/VM-2007-04-24-A-00-Qui_veut_la_mort_de_Virgo_Maria_2.pdf

    52 http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2007/VM-2007-06-26-A-00-Jugement_du_refere.pdf
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2007/Refere-2007-05-10.pdf

    53 http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2007/VM-2007-11-29-MgrTissier_SuperModernisme.pdf
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2007/VM-2007-11-14-A-00-Mgr_Tissier_a_Paris.pdf
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2007/2007-11-11-Mgr_Tissier_Modernisme.pdf

    54 http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2009/VM-2009-07-22-A-00-Conciliarisation-rampante-de-la-FSSPX.pdf

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    We could go on indefinitely with this chronological list, but the demonstrative evidence of the effectiveness
    and the irreplaceable character of the role of VM to maintain a religious factual informed information
    for the clergy and faithful on the mortal drift, currently in course, of the work of preservation of the
    sacramentally valid sacrificial Priesthood, founded in 1970 by Archbishop Lefebvre, against the perverse
    schemes of the depraved priests that have infiltrated within his work,
    has here and now been fully
    established from this handful of chronological elements that we have just recalled: it suffices for the
    reader, who can read French and would try to obtain more precise information in these matters, to refer himself
    to the various electronic links placed at the bottom of the pages of the French edition of this docuмent, to be
    found at www.virgo-maria.org.


    OUR PROVISIONAL CONCLUSION:

    -a HYPOTHESIS compatible with these FACTS that have been ESTABLISHED in
    such a SHOCKING WAY
    We no longer expect henceforth that a fearless as much as improbable French Mino Peccorelli, ready to
    risk his skin to reveal the truth on the Masonic infiltration of the Fraternity, will publish the registers of
    clerical Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ corresponding to this subject.

    Whether it pleases Bishop Tissier de Mallerais or not, who dared, in the choir of Saint Nicolas du
    Chardonnet, on March 12, 2009, in the presence of the Holy Sacrament, to wantonly deny55 the
    authenticity of the Peccorelli list, the publication of which the Italian journalist paid for by his life.

    Let us recall the method of inscription of the code names of the affiliates in the Masonic registers56, published
    in September 1978 at the price of his life by the journalist Mino Peccorelli: the code name of a mason in
    these registers has four letters: the two first ones of the surname followed by the two first ones of his
    Christian name. For example, Annibale Bugnini is listed under the code name of BUAN.

    According to this method, and in the hypothesis that Father Celier, just as his editor and author of the
    foreword of his book, the FM Jean-Luc Maxence, would belong also to the Lodge, which remains up to
    this day a simple hypothesis, the result would be: Grégoire Celier = CEGR
    Is it not extremely astonishing that we just discovered the exact anagram of the GREC, a Parisian
    clerical circle, regularly frequented by the Fathers Celier and Lorans57, where important personalities of
    the conciliar Church like to entertain themselves with priests of the SSPX, secretly and completely devoted to
    the joining of the Fraternity Saint Pius X with the Masonic global apostate Rome?
    Accidentally?

    In any case, one can wonder why this group chose such a name for itself!
    Could it be a clerical wink intended for the initiated?
    On this point, all that is left for us is conjectures.

    It is, nevertheless, simple to observe that the astonishing ascension of Father Celier within the SSPX
    began in Paris in 1994 58 after the election that year of Bishop Bernard Fellay by the General Chapter of
    _____________________________________________________

    55 http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2009/VM-2009-08-23-B-00-Reseaux_de_Sodano.pdf

    56 http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2007/ListeAGNOLI_Pecorelli_version_1_3reduit.xls
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2007/Agnoli-Liste.pdf

    57 http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2008/VM-2008-09-07-A-00-Abbe_Lorans_primant_les_conciliaires.pdf
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2007/VM-2007-07-31-A-00-Abbe_Lorans-GREC.pdf
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2006/VM-2006-06-17-3-00-
    Petite_grammaire_du_GREC_de_l_abbe_Lorans%20(1).pdf
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2006/VM-2006-06-19-Rectificatif_de_la_petite_grammaire_du_GREC.pdf
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2006/VM-2006-06-25-1-00-
    Communique_de_Mme_Perol_recu_le_24_juin_2006.pdf

    58 In 1994, three years after the unexpected disappearance of Bishop Lefebvre, Father Celier “was indeed bombarded” by
    Bishop Fellay, the new General Superior of the SSPX, and by Father Aulagnier, then Superior of the District of France of the
    Fraternity, with the direction of the Fideliter magazine and the Clovis Editions...

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    the SSPX for twelve years to the function of Superior General of the Fraternity Saint Pius X. The GREC
    was founded 4 years later, in 1998, in the same city.
    The foundation of the GREC actually happened in Paris in 1998, two years before the Pilgrimage of the
    FSSPX to Rome on the occasion of the Jubilee of the year 2000. This pilgrimage was decided by
    Bishop Fellay. The Fraternity cashed, as a matter of fact, in the same year the very important legacies59
    that had always been blocked in France, by the French Ministry of the Interior and Worship, that is,
    since the famous "petit Father Combes", very well known for its traditional links with the Freemasons.
    If such a HYPOTHESIS, concerning Father Celier and his eventual code name, could be proven, it
    would mean that this person would be actually considered, both by the French FM and the Vatican,
    as constituting an ace in the hole within the Fraternity and its District of France to finally organize the
    quick joining of the FSSPX with the globalist, Masonic Conciliar Rome, and therefore, to quickly realize
    the break-up of the only sacerdotal work that still preserves on the five continents the transmission of
    the true sacramentally valid Catholic sacrificial Priesthood according to the Latin rite ( see www.roresanctifica.org ).

    We do not know anything about it,
    but in any case, such a hypothesis would perfectly explain the rising and so totally shocking authority
    (shown by the FACTS, well established60 today, and by his constant, well noticed behavior) that Father
    Celier exercises on his "Superior" within the Fraternity of Saint Pius X, just as well as in Menzingen on
    Bishop Fellay, and in Suresnes on Father de Cacqueray. His rising and authority are worthy of a true
    “Godfather".
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    [58 cont'd]...He exerted then since more than one decade, in connection with his friend Yves Chiron, the function of teacher of students of
    the the last year of the secondary school of the Fraternity’s traditional catholic College in Chateauroux, teaching them his
    “Course in Philosophy” which he published in 1994 under the title “the mortal god” at Fideliter Editions. This book constitutes, as
    demonstrated by the Circle of Athens, a genuine “Initiatory Guide of Apostasy”, taught for more than ten years to the last year
    secondary school students of the traditional catholic College of Chateauroux, of which some, thus led astray, have been able to
    enter thereafter the Seminary of Écône, in order to be ordained priests of the Fraternity Saint Pius X:

    Cf. http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2007/VM-2007-12-01-A-00-Celier_Dieu_Mortel.pdf

    59 http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2007/VM-2007-10-02-A-00-Lettre_a_Mgr_Fellay_dons_et_legs.pdf
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2007/VM-2007-10-02-B-00-Wikipedia-FSSPX-censure-dons-et-legs.pdf
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2009/VM-2009-04-10-A-00-Lettre_Upinsky_a_Mgr_Tissier.pdf
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/Docuмents/A-A_Upinsky/2009-04-04-
    Communique_UNIEF_Mgr_Tissier_de_Mallerais.pdf
    http://www.virgo-maria.org/Docuмents/A-A_Upinsky/2009-04-04-
    Lettre_ouverte_a_Mgr_Tissier_de_Mallerais.pdf

    60 Some of them have been recalled higher.

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    These ESTABLISHED FACTS taken in consideration,
    everything happens as if the Fraternity of St. Pius X
    is from now on piloted by the Lodge itself in this policy of “reconciliation” with
    the Masonic, globalist Rome.










    [On a personal note, I met +Fellay in the late 90's in Arcadia, CA, and the look he
    gave me on his face when I approached him is a look that is burned into my
    memory as something that I will never forget. It made absolutely no sense to me
    at the time, and I was quite puzzled. Only now, in retrospect do I understand. He
    was terrified of me, and for no objective reason from my point of view, but now I
    can see, that presuming he was a Freemason, what I was, how I looked, what I
    said, and my demeanor, could have all added up to an approaching assassin, from
    the point of view of a Freemason. I never have, nor do I ever expect to have,
    such an intention, but to him at that time, that could have been what he feared...
    Now I know. Now I finally understand.]
     
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    Quote from: Jack in the Box
    Report of the August 12, 2012 Sunday's Mass celebrated at the St. Thomas Chapel in Carson City by Father Rostand. A commentary, by a layman.


    Capsule
    :

    •The object of this posting is to demonstrate that the Superior General is conducting a political campaign.

    •That the campaign currently conducted is merciless.

    •That priests are being subject to pressures.

    •That important players within the Society such as bishops are not only being silenced, but are simply becoming non-existent.

    •That the said political campaign is dirty, and perhaps that in the passing away of Father Schoonbroodt, it is now stained with the blood of a martyr.

    •And lastly, that priests, who are holy men must not [be] aware of what is going on, because laymen such as me, an [admittedly] wicked person, should never have had to write those lines.


    Well, Jack, you might think you're "wicked" but you're a better man than I.  

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    Fr. Arnault Rostand is conducting a political campaign. Under the pretense of visiting tours, he engages in briefings of the situation of the SSPX towards Rome. His briefings are both biased and incomplete.
     

    I say biased because he uses strong words to admonish the opponents [of] Bishop Bernard Fellay. The word of choice used by the Superior General is "sedevacantist." This [word] is not true, because [these] Catholics recognize the Pope, and in fact the faithful of the Society, who are true Catholics -- of the Catholic Faith defined by the Athanisian Creed -- are praying for the intentions of the Holy Father every day privately -- even if the Holy Father is openly acting as a traitor. The faithful also pray for the Holy Father during Mass as well, in the canon prayer of the "Te igitur, clementisisime," etc., which includes "una cuм famulo tuo Papa nostro Benedicti." The naming "sedevacantist" of Fr. Rostand, of the opponents to the negotiations with a Pope who is not faithful and steadfast to the Athanesian Creed, is false. It is name-calling. The Superior General is therefore conducting a name-calling campaign. He is political. He intends to demonize the ones who are against untimely negotiations with a papacy which is openly embracing the spirit of Assisi, and therefore which is a stranger to keeping the Catholic Faith entire and inviolate. The faithful who disagree with the actions of the Pope are not sedevacantists, they are simply aware of the errors of a Pope -- and are aware that God is either punishing us all, or has deliberately allowed the scuttling of His Church. Furthermore, the faithful who oppose Bishop Fellay are aware that Menzingen has gone too far in conducting behind-closed-doors negotiations with an apostate Rome.
     
    I say incomplete, because Fr. Rostand, in his briefing, did not say a word about two bishops who are currently in exile in lands where the language spoken is not their mother tongue. It is evident that Bishop Tissier de Mallerais, a Frenchman by excellence is out of place in Chicago, and that Bishop de Galarreta, who speaks Spanish, should not be in Geneva. This is a misuse of half of the prelates of the (true) Catholic Church. Father Rostand spoke of defections of priests among the Society. This indicates that he opened the subject of internal affair within the Society, and his omission of the grave situation of having fifty percent of its prelates being currently in exile proves that Father Rostand is political.
     
    So the Superior General is conducting in a political campaign. An election is apparently up and coming, and the electors will be the priests of the fraternity. Why would the Superior General conduct a political campaign on the pulpit, since the faithful will have no say in the re-election of Bishop Fellay? Simple: Priests are holy men, they are apolitical, and may be easily influenced. The priests may also be intimidated. I'll give you an example of such a case of intimidation: the Los Gatos Retreat lost its operating permit from the local authorities during several months of the year 2011. The "loss of operation" was suddenly lifted when Cardinal Levada resumed "behind closed doors" negotiations with the SSPX. It is to be reminded that William Cardinal Levada, Prefect of the CDF is the Archbishop Emeritus of San Francisco. As a registered parishioner of his Cathedral of St Mary of the Assumption, I somewhat know the man. He has proved to be "decisive" if not brutal once by closing down fourteen churches in a single day. Would the "loss of operation", and the sudden "regaining of a permit to operate" of the Los Gatos Retreat Center being timed with "negotiations" be coincidental, or would it be the action of the hidden hand of some lodge?


    I am familiar with the Los Gatos closure and curious re-opening, and I know for
    a fact that Freemasons are very much involved in government and the Building
    and Safety offices in California. I've been there and done that.
     
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    There is no question that Fr. Rostand is the spokesman of a political campaign. I say that his camp is playing hard-ball too. There is a disturbing affair that needs to be put under the light: It is the affair of the Les Sermons de Monseigneur Marcel Lefêbvre. A book was published back in 2010 containing sermons of our saintly Archbishop. The book is in three volumes. The sermons were public addresses, given in churches to a non-paying general public during the course of time of twenty years. The exception being a letter addressed in the format of an open letter to Fathers Tissier, Williamson, Fellay and de Galarreta on the eves of their episcopal ordination. The other exception being a few addresses by Bishop de Castro Mayer. The tone of all those addresses is as lively as our good Archbishop was during his sermons, which tone is well-known to all, since those sermons are played during retreats (mainly during lunch-time). The regime of Menzingen has issued a ban of the publication of the Sermons, after having attempted to collect fees from Les Editions Saint Remi (source: Tradition In Action). Why would the regime of Menzingen, clearly represented by Father Rostand at the Massa in Carson City, Nevada of this past Sunday, and during its following Q&A session, insist on a ban of the sermons of its spiritual father? The answer given last Sunday, was about copyrights. This answer given by the Superior General is an insult! The real answer should be that the ban of those Sermons was political. Our Archbishop met with our current Pope, and the ban of the Sermons was due to political correctness. Shame on you Father Rostand!
     
    Now let me place the "affairs of the Sermons" on a different level. A priest of the SSPX named Father Schoonbroodt was likely a major player in the publication of the volumes. He was old-guard within the Society. He also was the editor of the web-site, Virgo Maria, as well as of its companion web-site, Rore Sanctificate, explaining why the episcopal ordination of post June 18, 1968 by the post Vatican church are invalid, thus jeopardizing the Apostolic Succession. Those said web-sites were spirited, and incisively informative to say the least. Bishop Fellay filed a lawsuit against the priest. Father Schoonbroodt was even detained and roughed-up by the Belgian authorities. The priest became vociferous on his web-site. It was clear that Fr. Schoonbroodt was not going away quietly, and a likely show trial was on its way, then Fr. Schoonbroodt died! How did he die? A "car accident." Car accidents are the number one cause [in murder cases]. Would the hand of some lodge be behind [this]? The answer to this question will come, and in any case both heaven and hell know exactly what [happened] to Father Schoonbroodt; and everyone of us, either in hell or heaven will learn what happened to this priest who certainly [is] already a martyr as Monsignors Lefêbvre and de Castro Mayer were.
     
    It is clear that warfare is going-on within the SSPX, as well as within the rest of the church. It is clear that Father Arnault Rostand is not a non-partisan. The mask is taken out and since he conducted in the name-calling game during this last Sunday's Mass at Carson City in falsely labeling "sedevacantists," the opponents to the regime of Menzingen could continue to up the antes. I would not be a part of such a game, because I am no saint to cast a first stone, however, I'd like to publicly ask the Superior General of the SSPX of the United States what he exactly means by "novelties." Father Rostand used this particular word to criticize the [post-Vatican II] church during his [homily -- should say "sermon"] however, as a priest he seemed to have used "novelties" himself during this Mass of last Sunday, because he had skipped the Epistle, in going directly to the Gradual. Then after the [homily -- should say "sermon"], during the Offertory's silent prayer of Psalm 25, there must have been a sudden "speed-up" in his delivery of the prayers: It takes almost a minute to go from the "Lavabo inter innocentes manus meas" to the last words of "Suscipe sancta Trinitas" 's last words, prior to the loudly said "Orate frates," etc. Father Arnault Rostand said such silent prayers in just a few seconds... I am only a layman, but it appeared that our District Superior took short-cuts in the delivery of the Tridentine Mass. Perhaps priests may explain..., or may be Father Rostand was engaging in novelties by truncating the Mass of All Time. A sign, that the modernists within the Society intend to use novelties after their anticipated attachment to the conciliars.
     
     


    You can be sure that he was BOTH truncating the Mass AND engaging in novelties.

    This is a very perceptive post, and while you are reluctant to speak up for fear of
    stepping beyond your limits, believe me, it is of great benefit for we who were not
    there to hear your astute observations. These Modernists are very much afraid of
    being noticed in their dirty work, and when you call attention to it, they are forced
    to back off.

    Let us all become aware of their tactics by reading these warnings and
    observations, such that when we see them happen to us in our Mass chapels, we
    will be prepared to stand up and take action. I do not recommend disrupting the
    Mass, but certainly when a priest speaks heresy from the pulpit we have EVERY
    RIGHT to stand up and oppose him to his face! The sermon is not part of Mass! So
    don't let them accuse you falsely. When they say you interrupted Mass, tell them:
    No! You're WRONG AGAIN! You were wrong during your sermon, and you're wrong
    now. That makes two times in a row that you're wrong! Are you going to go for
    three out of three? They need to know we are not stupid lemmings. Because that's
    what they have relied on: us being stupid lemmings, who PRAY, PAY and OBEY.

    Remember, this is how the Arian Heresy was opposed: a layman stood up in the
    4th century, and denounced a heretic bishop during his bad sermon.

    In honor of Fr. Paul Schoonbroodt: he wouldn't have it any other way!
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    This keeps getting better and better -- or is that "worse and worse?"


    This cult of the secret keeps on spreading in the government of the SSPX by Bishop Fellay. The so
    called doctrinarian "discussions” with the Rome of the antichrists, by which the Swiss bishop risks the future
    of the FSSPX, will unfold themselves in secrecy, behind CLOSED DOORS.

    And now, in a new boost of secrecy, even the names of the members of the Commission will remain
    secret!

    Discussions BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, by persons that do not unveil their identity to the public, does
    that not remind you of something? This is exactly the way that the Masonic Lodge functions.

    We cannot but notice that Bishop Fellay imposes on the FSSPX the way of functioning of the Masonic
    Lodge: this is a FACT.

    Quite the opposite of Bishop Fellay and the Lodge, Bishop Lefebvre applied the Catholic way of
    behaving: he kept his relations with Rome seen and known by the faithful and did not hesitate to solicit
    the opinion of laymen.

    How to explain that, since 2000, the year of the pilgrimage to Rome, the Direction* of the SSPX has
    arrived at adopting the methods of functioning of the Masonic Lodge?

    And this in an ever increasing way since the visit of Bishop Fellay to the apostate priest Ratzinger-
    Benedict XVI on August 29, 2005?


    Ask your priests and your bishops:

    • How is it possible that the [Directorship]* of the SSPX promotes
    and sells this Masonic program book without any penalty?

    • How is it possible that Bishop Fellay imposes this Masonic
    policy by terror?

    • Do you want our children to finish in the Lodge?



    Go to the site PDF and see, the figure  is three asterisks arranged as
    a pyramid, something like this:

    .*
    **

     
    *The word, "Direction" seems to be a translation problem, and ought to be
    "Directorship" in English.



    It should be rather obvious now that the reason Fr. Schoonbroodt was sued and
    then "offed" was that he was all too close to the real, dirty secret of +Fellay & Co.



    Telesphorus was reading this website of Fr. Schoonbroodt's back in May:

    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=18982&min=10&num=1


    This question is part of the last image found on p. 35. I can't copy the image
    because it's a PDF file. It's in French:



    Voulez-vous que vos enfants finissent en Loge?




    •  Do you want our children to finish in the Lodge?



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