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Dirty political campaign
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2012, 02:30:19 PM »
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Quote from: Jack in the Box
It is clear that a warfare is going-on within the SSPX, as well as within the rest of the church. It is clear that Father Arnault Rostand is not a non-partisan. The mask is taken out and since he conducted in the name calling game during this last Sunday's Mass at Carson City in falsely labeling "sedevacantists" the opponents to the regime of Menzingen could continue to up the antes. I would not be a part of such a game, because I am no saint to cast a first stone, however, I'd like to publicly ask the Superior General of the SSPX of the United States what he exactly means by "novelties". Father Rostand used this particular word to criticize the post Vatican church during his homely, however as a priest he seemed to have used "novelties" himself during this Mass of last Sunday, because he had skipped the Epistle, in going directly to the Gradual. Then after the homely, during the Offertory's silent prayer of Psalm 25, there must have been a sudden "speed-up" in his delivery of the prayers: It take almost a minute to go from the "Lavabo inter innocentes manus meas" to the last words of "Suscipe sancta Trinitas" 's last words, prior to the loudly said "Orate frates, etc.". Father Arnault Rostand said such silent prayers in just a few seconds... I am only a layman, but it appeared that our District Superior took short-cuts in the delivery of the Tridentine Mass. Perhaps priests may explain..., of may be Father Rostand was engaging in novelties by truncating the Mass of All Time. A sign, that the modernists within the Society intend to use novelties after their anricipated attachement to the conciliars.


One of the key differences in everything Novus Ordo compared to the
Canonized Traditional Latin Mass, is the truncation of material. They provide
numerous "options" for the pres-byter to use, and in practice, it most usually
comes down to taking the shortest route.

This practice is quite offensive to God. Our Lady came to the shepherd children at
Fatima and told them they should not abbreviate their prayers. The Angel of Portugal
had also instructed them about that. The children had been shortening their Rosary
to saying "Hail Mary; Holy Mary. Hail Mary; Holy Mary..." Certainly, their intentions
were not evil, for they were saying what they thought to be the Rosary, only more
quickly so they could get to their anticipated games they wanted to play.

Our Lady also told them to not pray the prayers too quickly. How many even today
pay no attention to this, but rush through their prayers? This causes a loss of grace,
and tends to dissipate devotion. When said in a group, it causes tensions, for the
ones who have habitually done their prayers too quickly get upset with those who
are "praying too slowly!" And in other languages, it causes division, for example,
it's practically impossible to say the Dios te salve Maria as quickly (in Spanish) as it is
to say the Hail Mary in English. So the Hispanics who say their Rosary in their own
language (because they don't know English) find themselves always behind, which
makes them feel marginalized or "not up to speed." To remedy this, some of them
take to rapid-fire words, which is possible, but it fairly evacuates the prayers of
their piety and devotion.

To hear that Fr. Rostand is making such a scandalous example, it can only be from
a spirit of subversion. He is not immune from knowledge. He knows exactly what
he is doing. I could most easily speculate on his intentions, but I don't have to. We
all know what they are.

He is using example as a means of effecting a transition. We have been here
before. How many worldly churchgoers praise any priest who "gets through the
Mass" more quickly than another one? These same worldlings would be entirely
miserable assisting at the Mass of any of the Saints of the Church! We are not
there to "get it out of the way" so we can get on to something more fun. The time
we have at Mass is an ETERNAL BLESSING, for those in Purgatory have no such
time any more, and only regrets for not having used the time they were given
more wisely.

And those in hell, as it were, regret ever having been to Mass at all!

(...It is only with deep repugnance and unspeakable disgust that I write words such as pray, Mass, holy water, and church. I profoundly detest those who go to church, as well as everyone and everything in general. For us, everything is a torment. Everything we come to understand at death, every recollection of life and of what we know, becomes a burning flame.4... -- 4. Saint Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, Supplement (New York: Benzinger Brothers, Inc., 1948), Q.98, art. 7 – “in the damned there will be actual consideration of the things they knew heretofore as matters of sorrow, but not as a cause of pleasure. For they will consider both the evil they have done, and for which they were damned, and the delightful goods they have lost, and on both counts they will suffer torments.” [back to text]  http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/The-Letter-from-Beyond-a-story-of-one-woman-s-life )

Dirty political campaign
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2012, 02:37:58 PM »
Quote from: 1531
Those of us who are not  in the US are wondering what the reaction of the faithful there is? How much support is estimated for Menzingen, +Fellay and Fr Rostand? and what estimated percentage of the faithful are against all this political manoeuvering? Are Mons Tissier de Mallerais and Mons de Galarreta obliged to reside in the US and Geneva respectively? Do they not have a choice?

Surely Mons Fellay, apart from being the Sup Gen, is just another of the 4 bishops? I am curious as to what the SSPX constitution says...?

We hear nothing from down under,  ie Australia and New Zealand; what goes on there? Apart from Fr Black, I don't know who all the other priests are over there. Are the faithful in general agreement with Menzingen? We don't seem to hear anything from them. Just curious...  :scratchchin:

I think that we have a problem where the Spanish-speaking countries are concerned, as well as with the French, as it is difficult to gauge the activity and reactions to what we are currently reading about in the States.



1531,

Yes, you're right about the new Menzingen tactic... an SSPX news black-out
to help control the proliferation of "evil sede rumors"...  or until they can systematically strangle the opposition.

The weekly reports posted on Catholicinfo of sermons, comments and events from the SSPX chapels is the most efficient way to keep the "SSPX Resistance" informed.

By the way, did you hear anything about an open protest letter sent by the Australian District faithful to Bp. Fellay?  

I'm curious to know if the Australian's District has "true grit" like the British District does?  

I wish the American District faithful would launch an open letter to Menzingen requesting the resignation of Msgr. Fellay.




Dirty political campaign
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2012, 03:02:56 PM »
Fr. Paul Schoonbroodt's websites are miraculously still viewable:

...In the final annex to this VM message, we do invite our readers – be they clergymen or laymen – to read,
reread and meditate on the INFALLIBLE encyclical text Humanum Genus of April 20, 1884, from the
Magisterium of Pope Leo XIII, by which this Pontiff infallibly exposes, denounces and condemns the "Sect
of the Freemasons", as well as their "misleading" methods and their "infamous and criminal enterprises."
While considering the INFALLIBLE terms chosen by Pope Leo XIII to passionately condemn Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ by
his encyclical Humanum Genus, the Catholic readers, clergy or laymen, will be able to measure the
ABSOLUTELY MOST SERIOUS character of the public approval from a confirmed, acknowledged,
enthusiast Gnostic freemason program book of Father Celier for the joining of the SSPX with the
Masonic, globalist, apostate, “ecuмenical” Conciliar church.
Leo XIII points his finger at the secret methods of the Masonic sect:
"Undoubtedly, one can see that they belong to the family of clandestine corporations, and that they
behave like them. They have, in fact, kinds of mysteries that their constitution forbids with the
greatest care to divulge, not only to people outside, but even to a considerable number of their
followers."

And what does Bishop Fellay show since the year 2000 in the SSPX? The same Masonic methods of
secrecy!...

http://www.virgo-maria.org/articles/2009/VM-2009-11-11-A-00-Question-about-Bishop-Fellay.pdf

Dirty political campaign
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2012, 03:14:45 PM »
Quote from: Incredulous
Quote from: 1531
Those of us who are not  in the US are wondering what the reaction of the faithful there is? How much support is estimated for Menzingen, +Fellay and Fr Rostand? and what estimated percentage of the faithful are against all this political manoeuvering? Are Mons Tissier de Mallerais and Mons de Galarreta obliged to reside in the US and Geneva respectively? Do they not have a choice?

Surely Mons Fellay, apart from being the Sup Gen, is just another of the 4 bishops? I am curious as to what the SSPX constitution says...?

We hear nothing from down under,  ie Australia and New Zealand; what goes on there? Apart from Fr Black, I don't know who all the other priests are over there. Are the faithful in general agreement with Menzingen? We don't seem to hear anything from them. Just curious...  :scratchchin:

I think that we have a problem where the Spanish-speaking countries are concerned, as well as with the French, as it is difficult to gauge the activity and reactions to what we are currently reading about in the States.



1531,

Yes, you're right about the new Menzingen tactic... an SSPX news black-out
to help control the proliferation of "evil sede rumors"...  or until they can systematically strangle the opposition.


In light of the Virgo-Maria websites of Fr. Schoonbroodt, it becomes clear that this
"anti-sedevacantist" attack from Menzingen is just a smokescreen. They're using
it like a "good cop/bad cop" schtick or like the "right vs. left" political ruse. They
don't have any problem with sedevacantism. They don't even believe in the
papacy themselves. The pope is good for what power he can wield over the
clueless minions. But they PRETEND to have a problem with sedevacantism
because then they can use it as a straw man to attack it.

It's all a game! We are being played for fools. The three good bishops no doubt
know this, but they can't come out and say it openly because it would be too
upsetting for the faithful.


Quote
The weekly reports posted on Catholicinfo of sermons, comments and events from the SSPX chapels is the most efficient way to keep the "SSPX Resistance" informed.

By the way, did you hear anything about an open protest letter sent by the Australian District faithful to Bp. Fellay?  

I'm curious to know if the Australian's District has "true grit" like the British District does?  

I wish the American District faithful would launch an open letter to Menzingen requesting the resignation of Msgr. Fellay.[/color]




The time has come for all the good priests of the SSPX to come together and
OUST this criminal mole +Fellay while there is still time. +Fellay is afraid of their
power as a united whole, and it's the only thing that he's afraid of.
The sooner
the good priests recognize this fact, the better.




+Fellay's deep, dark secret is his Freemasonic alliance, to which Fr. Rostand seems
to be privy. He is terrified of this becoming public knowledge, UNLESS, that
is, Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ isn't so objectionable to enough of the SSPX faithful.

Therefore, as Fr. Schoonbroodt so aptly admonishes: we are well-advised to make
a studied understanding of Humanum Genus, 1884, and know that Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ
is our principle enemy in these last days!

Dirty political campaign
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2012, 03:53:06 PM »
This keeps getting better and better -- or is that "worse and worse?"


This cult of the secret keeps on spreading in the government of the SSPX by Bishop Fellay. The so
called doctrinarian "discussions” with the Rome of the antichrists, by which the Swiss bishop risks the future
of the FSSPX, will unfold themselves in secrecy, behind CLOSED DOORS.

And now, in a new boost of secrecy, even the names of the members of the Commission will remain
secret!

Discussions BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, by persons that do not unveil their identity to the public, does
that not remind you of something? This is exactly the way that the Masonic Lodge functions.

We cannot but notice that Bishop Fellay imposes on the FSSPX the way of functioning of the Masonic
Lodge: this is a FACT.

Quite the opposite of Bishop Fellay and the Lodge, Bishop Lefebvre applied the Catholic way of
behaving: he kept his relations with Rome seen and known by the faithful and did not hesitate to solicit
the opinion of laymen.

How to explain that, since 2000, the year of the pilgrimage to Rome, the Direction* of the SSPX has
arrived at adopting the methods of functioning of the Masonic Lodge?

And this in an ever increasing way since the visit of Bishop Fellay to the apostate priest Ratzinger-
Benedict XVI on August 29, 2005?


Ask your priests and your bishops:

• How is it possible that the [Directorship]* of the SSPX promotes
and sells this Masonic program book without any penalty?

• How is it possible that Bishop Fellay imposes this Masonic
policy by terror?

• Do you want our children to finish in the Lodge?



Go to the site PDF and see, the figure  is three asterisks arranged as
a pyramid, something like this:

.*
**

 
*The word, "Direction" seems to be a translation problem, and ought to be
"Directorship" in English.



It should be rather obvious now that the reason Fr. Schoonbroodt was sued and
then "offed" was that he was all too close to the real, dirty secret of +Fellay & Co.