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Dirty political campaign
« on: August 23, 2012, 02:08:20 PM »
Report of the August 12, 2012 Sunday's Mass celebrated at the St. Thomas Chapel in Carson City by Father Rostand. A commentary, by a layman.

Capsule:
•The object of this posting is to demonstrate that the Superior General is conducting a political campaign.
•That the campaign currently conducted is merciless.
•That priests are being subject to pressures.
•That important players within the Society such as bishops are not only being silenced, but are simply becoming non-existent.
•That the said political campaign is dirty, and perhaps that in the passing away of Father Schoonbrood, it is now stained with the blood of a martyr.
•And lastly, that priests, who are holy men must not aware of what is going-on, because laymen such as me, an admited wicked person, should never have had to write thoses lines.

Fr. Arnault Rostand is conducting a political campaign. Under the pretense of visiting tours he engages in briefings of the situation of the SSPX towards Rome. His briefings are both biased and incomplete.
 
I say biased because he uses strong words to admonish the opponents to Bishop Bernard Fellay. The word of choice used by the Superior General is "sedevacantist". This is not true, because the Catholics recognize the Pope, and in fact the faithful of the Society, who are true Catholics -of the Catholic Faith defined by the Athanisian Creed- are praying for the intentions of the Holy Father every day privately, -even if the Holy Father is openly acting as a traitor. The faithful also pray for the Holy Father during Mass as well in the canon prayer of the "Te igitur, clementisisime, etc which includes una cuм famulo tuo Papa nostro Benedicti". The naming "sedevacantist" by Fr. Rostand of the opponents to the negociations with a Pope who is not faithful and steadfast to the Athanesian Creed is false. It is name-calling. The Superior General is therefore conducting in a name-calling campaign. He is political. He intends to demonize the ones who are against untimely negotiations with a papacy which is openly embracing the spirit of Assisi, and therefore which is stranger to keeping the Catholic Faith entire and inviolate. The faithfuls who disagree with the actions of the Pope are not sedevacantists, they are simply aware of the errors of a Pope -and are aware that God is either punishing us all, or has deliberately allowed the scuttling of His Church. Furthermore the faithful who oppose Bishop Fellay are aware that Menzingen has gone too far in conducting behind closed doors negotiations with an apostate Rome.
 
I say incomplete, because Fr. Rostand, in his briefing did not say a word about two bishops who are currently in exile in lands where the language spoken is not their mother tongue. It is evident that Bishop Tissier de Malleray, a Frenchman by excellence is out of place in Chicago, and that Bishop de Galeretta, who speaks Spanish, should not be in Geneva. This is a misuse of half of the prelates of the (true) Catholic Church. Father Rostand spoke of defections of priests among the Society. This indicates that he opened the subject of internal affair within the Society, and his omission of the grave situation of having fifty percent of its prelates being currently in exile proves that Father Rostand is political.
 
So the Superior General is conducting in a political campaign. An election is apparently up and coming, and the electors will be the priests of the fraternity. Why would the Superior General conduct a political campaign on the pulpit, since the faithful will have no say in the re-election of Bishop Fellay? Simple: Priests are holy men, they are apolitical, and may be easily influenced. The priests may also be intimidated. I'll give you an example of such a case of intimidation: the Los Gatos Retreat lost its operating permit from the local authorities during several months of the year 2011. The "loss of operation" was suddenly lifted when Cardinal Levada resumed "behind closed doors" negotiations with the SSPX. It is to be reminded that William Cardinal Levada, Prefect of the CDF is the Archbishop Emeritus of San Francisco. As a registered parishioner of his Cathedral of St Mary of the Assumption, I somewhat know the man. He has proved to be "decisive" if not brutal once by closing down fourteen churches in a single day. Would the "loss of operation", and the sudden "regaining of a permit to operate" of the Los Gatos Retreat Center being timed with "negotiations" be coincidental, or would it be the action of the hidden hand of some lodge?
 
There is no question that Fr. Rostand is the spokesman of a political campaign. I say that his camp is playing hard-ball too. There is a disturbing affair that needs to be put under the light: It is the affair of the Les Sermons de Monseigneur Marcel Lefêbvre. A book was published back in 2010 containing sermons of our saintly Archbishop. The book is in three volumes. The sermons were public addresses, given in churches to a non-paying general public during the course of time of twenty years. The exception being a letter addressed in the format of an open letter to Fathers Tissier, Williamson, Fellay and de Galeretta on the eves of their episcopal ordination. The other execption being a few addresses by Bishop de Castro Mayer. The tone of all those addresses is lively as our good Archbishop was during his sermons, which tone is well known to all since those sermons are played during retreats (mainly during lunch-time). The regime of Menzingen has issued a ban of the publication of the Sermons, after having attempted to collect fees from Les Editions Saint Remi (source: Tradition In Action). Why would the regime of Menzingen, clearly represented by Father Rostand at the Massa in Carson City, Nevada of this past Sunday, and during its following Q&A session would insist of a ban of the sermons of its spiritual father? The answer given last Sunday was about copyrights. This answer given by the Superior General is an insult! The real answer should be that the ban of those Sermons was political. Our Archbishop met with our current Pope, and the ban of the Sermons was due to political correctness. Shame on you Father Rostand!
 
Now let me place the "affairs of the Sermons" to a different level. A priest of the SSPX named Father Shoonbrood was likely a major player in the publication of the volumes. He was old-guard within the Society. He also was the editor of the web-site Virgo Maria, as well as of its companion web-site Rore Sanctificate, explaining why the episcopal ordination of post June 18, 1968 by the post Vatican church are invalid, thus jeopardizing the Apostolic Succession. Those said web-sites were spirited, and insisively informative to say the least. Bishop Fellay filed a lawsuit against the priest. Father Shoonbrood was even detained and roughed-up by the Belgian authorities. The priest became vociferous on his web-site. It was clear that Fr. Schoonbrood was not going away quietly, and a likely show trial was on its way, then Fr. Schoonbrood died! How did he die? A "car accident". Car accidents is the number one cause for murder. Would the hand of some lodge be behind? The answer to this question will come, and in any case both heaven and hell know exactly what happen to Father Schoonbrood, and everyone of us, either in hell or heaven will learn what happened to this priest who certainly was already a martyr as Monsignors Lefêbvre and de Castro Mayer were.
 
It is clear that a warfare is going-on within the SSPX, as well as within the rest of the church. It is clear that Father Arnault Rostand is not a non-partisan. The mask is taken out and since he conducted in the name calling game during this last Sunday's Mass at Carson City in falsely labeling "sedevacantists" the opponents to the regime of Menzingen could continue to up the antes. I would not be a part of such a game, because I am no saint to cast a first stone, however, I'd like to publicly ask the Superior General of the SSPX of the United States what he exactly means by "novelties". Father Rostand used this particular word to criticize the post Vatican church during his homely, however as a priest he seemed to have used "novelties" himself during this Mass of last Sunday, because he had skipped the Epistle, in going directly to the Gradual. Then after the homely, during the Offertory's silent prayer of Psalm 25, there must have been a sudden "speed-up" in his delivery of the prayers: It take almost a minute to go from the "Lavabo inter innocentes manus meas" to the last words of "Suscipe sancta Trinitas" 's last words, prior to the loudly said "Orate frates, etc.". Father Arnault Rostand said such silent prayers in just a few seconds... I am only a layman, but it appeared that our District Superior took short-cuts in the delivery of the Tridentine Mass. Perhaps priests may explain..., of may be Father Rostand was engaging in novelties by truncating the Mass of All Time. A sign, that the modernists within the Society intend to use novelties after their anricipated attachement to the consiliars.
 
 

Dirty political campaign
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2012, 09:26:02 AM »
Those of us who are not  in the US are wondering what the reaction of the faithful there is? How much support is estimated for Menzingen, +Fellay and Fr Rostand? and what estimated percentage of the faithful are against all this political manoeuvering? Are Mons Tissier de Mallerais and Mons de Galarreta obliged to reside in the US and Geneva respectively? Do they not have a choice?

Surely Mons Fellay, apart from being the Sup Gen, is just another of the 4 bishops? I am curious as to what the SSPX constitution says...?

We hear nothing from down under,  ie Australia and New Zealand; what goes on there? Apart from Fr Black, I don't know who all the other priests are over there. Are the faithful in general agreement with Menzingen? We don't seem to hear anything from them. Just curious...  :scratchchin:

I think that we have a problem where the Spanish-speaking countries are concerned, as well as with the French, as it is difficult to gauge the activity and reactions to what we are currently reading about in the States.


Dirty political campaign
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2012, 11:10:06 AM »
Quote from: Jack in the Box
...There is a disturbing affair that needs to be put under the light: It is the affair of the Les Sermons de Monseigneur Marcel Lefêbvre. A book was published back in 2010 containing sermons of our saintly Archbishop. The book is in three volumes. The sermons were public addresses, given in churches to a non-paying general public during the course of time of twenty years. .....The regime of Menzingen has issued a ban of the publication of the Sermons, after having attempted to collect fees from Les Editions Saint Remi (source: Tradition In Action). .... The answer given last Sunday was about copyrights. This answer given by the Superior General is an insult! The real answer should be that the ban of those Sermons was political. ..

Now let me place the "affairs of the Sermons" to a different level. A priest of the SSPX named Father Shoonbrood was likely a major player in the publication of the volumes. He was old-guard within the Society. He also was the editor of the web-site Virgo Maria, as well as of its companion web-site Rore Sanctificate, explaining why the episcopal ordination of post June 18, 1968 by the post Vatican church are invalid, thus jeopardizing the Apostolic Succession. Those said web-sites were spirited, and insisively informative to say the least. Bishop Fellay filed a lawsuit against the priest. Father Shoonbrood was even detained and roughed-up by the Belgian authorities. The priest became vociferous on his web-site. It was clear that Fr. Schoonbrood was not going away quietly, and a likely show trial was on its way, then Fr. Schoonbrood died! How did he die? A "car accident". Car accidents is the number one cause for murder. Would the hand of some lodge be behind? The answer to this question will come, and in any case both heaven and hell know exactly what happen to Father Schoonbrood, and everyone of us, either in hell or heaven will learn what happened to this priest who certainly was already a martyr as Monsignors Lefêbvre and de Castro Mayer were.


Very insightfull, Abp. Lefebvres writings silenced, and Fr. Schoobrood's writings about the invalidity of practically ALL the conciliar bishops (and thus priests ordained by them), disappears after his accidental death.

Fr. Cekada and many others have been writing about the invalidity of episcopal ordinations for some time. See:

Quote from: Clint
I thought this would make a good subject for a thread. What could be more important? If all the bishops consecrated using the  new rite of episcopal consecration, are not bishops, then all the priests that they ordain are not priests, whether ordained in the new rite or the old. Benedict XVI was consecrated a bishop using the new rite.

Quote from: Nishant2011
Anyway, to your earlier statement, which I suppose casted doubt on the validity of Archbishop Cordileone's consecration, there are plenty of excellent, detailed and thorough studies by the SSPX and others that show the new rites are valid.


From Article : Why the New Bishops Are Not True Bishops
http://www.novusordowatch.org/nobishops.pdf

"I completed the article on March 25,2006. I noticed later that this date was the
fifteenth anniversary of Archbishop Lefebvre ’s death. This I considered providential, because the Archbishop himself had personally told me in the 1970s that he considered the new rite of episcopal consecration invalid"

"In the summer of 2005, a group of French traditionalists published the first
volume of Rore Sanctifica, a book-length dossier of docuмentation and commentary on the Paul VI Rite of Episcopal Consecration. (www.rore-sanctifica.org) The study, featuring on its cover side-by side
photos of Ratzinger and SSPX Superior General Mgr. Bernard Fellay, concluded
that the new rite was invalid.
(Three additional volumes have appeared
since.)"



Dirty political campaign
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2012, 11:17:31 AM »
This is what alarms me the most about the new SSPX regime; they work in the dark, they hide their objectives from us. That, I believe is what has everyone here alarmed. This had never existed before in the SSPX.



But he that doth truth, cometh to the light, that his works may be made manifest, because they are done in God. (John 3:21)

Dirty political campaign
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2012, 01:38:53 PM »
Dear Jack in the box,

I do appreciate your post. However, it would help your credibility if you could please
spell the names of the two bishops correctly:

+Alfonso de Galarreta

+Tissier de Mallerais.




Quote from: Clint
This is what alarms me the most about the new SSPX regime; they work in the dark, they hide their objectives from us. That, I believe is what has everyone here alarmed. This had never existed before in the SSPX.



But he that doth truth, cometh to the light, that his works may be made manifest, because they are done in God. (John 3:21)


Disconcerting, to be sure!

It is an ERROR OF RUSSIA to conceal the teachings of the Church, therefore, we
must conclude that whatever it is, they are up to NO GOOD, and nothing good can
come of it, be it what it may.