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OBISPOS DIOCESANOS VISITARÁN PRIORATOS DE LA FSSPX
FORO CHRISTUS VINCIT

Al mismo tiempo que aparecía la entrevista de Monseñor Fellay después de su encuentro con el cardenal Müller, todos los sacerdotes de la Fraternidad recibieron una nota interna más explícita.

Las grandes líneas:

Concerniente a Roma :
-Roma insiste que no quiere romper el diálogo. Desea que se resuelva la situación de la Fraternidad rápidamente.
-Roma insiste en la obediencia.
-Roma insiste sobre la importancia de reconocer el Magisterio. La nota explica que esto no puede ser una dificultad para un católico.

Concerniente a la Fraternidad:
-Se ha planteado el problema del concilio.
-Problema de una incomprensión entre las dos partes.
-Están previstos encuentros pero diferentes a las discusiones doctrinales de hace algunos años. Es a la Fraternidad a quien se le deja el cuidado de organizar estos encuentros que tendrán lugar entre los obispos diocesanos y los sacerdotes de la Fraternidad.

Y acá se nos informa:

Una nota de Menzingen fue enviada a todos los prioratos para que los sacerdotes acojan de la mejor manera a los obispos diocesanos que vendrán a visitarlos…

Estas reuniones ya han tenido lugar en el pasado, como en el 2011, que el Padre Moulin recibió a Monseñor Sankalé, obispo de Niza (fotos publicadas en la página oficial de la diócesis):

I remember seeing a news article a while ago about the local bishop visiting an SSPX priory in France, so this has happened before.

Are these the bishops who participated in the synod?

Well, well, well ... the Diocesan Bishops are now free to spread their complete lack of faith to the SSPX priests.  Thank you, Bishop Fellay ....

"When the Son of Man returns will He find faith?"

Quote from: RomanCatholic1953

At lease they are sharing their ecuмenicalism with SSPX like they do with every other religion if they are christian or not.

Is that a good thing?

Absolutely No, there is only one True Church, The Roman Catholic Church.

The Bishops should visit the SSPX Priories as supreme pastors of their Diocese, and not
for any post vatican 2 ecuмenicalism. This there be no objection to.

For the sake of clarity, as this SSPX Internal Memo is an important revelation, there was a lot lost in the two translations after the original French that was posted on the French website christusvincit.clicforum.com

En même temps que paraissait l'Entretien avec Mgr Fellay après sa rencontre avec le cardinal Müller , tous les prêtres de la Fraternité recevaient une note interne plus explicite.

Les grandes lignes :

Concernant Rome :
- Rome insiste qu'elle ne veut pas rompre le dialogue. Souhaite une résolution de la situation de la Fraternité rapidement.
- Rome insiste sur l'obéissance.
- Rome insiste sur l'importance de reconnaître le Magistère. La note explique que cela ne peut être une difficulté pour un catholique.
Concernant la Fraternité :
- Problème du Concile est soulevé.
- Problème d'une incompréhension entre les deux parties.
- Aussi des rencontres sont prévues mais différentes des entretiens doctrinaux d'il y a quelques années. C'est à la Fraternité qu'est laissé le soin d'organiser ces rencontres qui auront lieu entre des évêques diocésains et des prêtres de la Fraternité.

Source: christusvincit.clicforum.com/t272-Note-interne-de-Menzingen-concernant-les-rapports-avec-Rome.htm

Translated to English on Oct. 8, from Unbrandable @ C o r M a r i a e.  

Thread: “SSPX Internal Memo”.

The moderator of the resistance website, Christus Vincit! Christus Regnat! Christus Imperat! reveals the main points of an internal memo that was sent to all Society priests regarding relations with Rome.

“At the same time as the ‘ Interview with Bishop Fellay after his meeting with Cardinal Muller’ appeared, all the priests of the Society received a more explicit internal memorandum.

The main points:
Regarding Rome:
-Rome insists that she does not want to break the dialogue. Wants a resolution of the situation of the Society quickly.
-Rome insists on obedience.
-Rome emphasizes the importance of recognizing the Magisterium. The memorandum explains that this cannot be a problem for a Catholic.

Regarding the Society:
-Problem of the Council is brought up.
-Problem of a misunderstanding between the two parties.
-Also, meetings are planned, but different from the doctrinal talks of a few years ago. The Society is left with the task of organizing these meetings which will take place between diocesan bishops and priests of the Society.”

Quote from: MyrnaM

Quote

Concerniente a Roma :
-Roma insiste que no quiere romper el diálogo. Desea que se resuelva la situación de la Fraternidad rápidamente.
-Roma insiste en la obediencia.
-Roma insiste sobre la importancia de reconocer el Magisterio. La nota explica que esto no puede ser una dificultad para un católico.

Concerning Rome:
- Rome insists that they don't desire to break off dialogue. They wish to quickly resolve the situation with the Fraternity.
- Rome insists on obedience.
- Rome insists on the importance of recognition of the Magisterium. The note explains that this cannot be a difficulty for a Catholic.

Isn't this what SSPX has always believed of the novus ordo Magisterium?

Actually no - By "Magisterium" was always understood the teaching of the church prior to the Council AND the teaching since the Council that conforms with it (since they are the same thing) BUT not the new teaching that differs from what the church taught.

What is now herein implied is that the term "Magisterium" embraces ALL teachings and the SSPX will somehow iron out the difficulties "later on" - fat chance of that !

Correct. Rome is not concerned with The Magisterium (w/capital M). Rome is only concerned with the "authentic" or also known as the "authorized" magisterium as explained in the "1989 Profession of Faith" of JPII and "Oath of Fidelity" which refers to the person of the Pope or the College of Bishops together to whom (according to them), the faithful owes "submission of will and intellect"... "even if they do not intend to proclaim these teachings by a definitive act." and which is part of the "Doctrinal Preamble".

If the SSPX priories are going to be visited by the bishops, it means they have already signed the infamous "Profession of faith" which contains a paragraph from Lumen Gentium which is NOT an article of Faith. (See red highlight)

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/docuмents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_1998_professio-fidei_en.html

CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH
PROFESSION OF FAITH
 
I, N., with firm faith believe and profess each and everything that is contained in the Symbol of faith, namely:

I believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible. I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God,born of the Father before all ages. God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father; through him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven, and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary, and became man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate, he suffered death and was buried, and rose again on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead and his kingdom will have no end. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son, who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified, who has spoken through the prophets. I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church. I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen.

With firm faith, I also believe everything contained in the word of God, whether written or handed down in Tradition, which the Church, either by a solemn judgment or by the ordinary and universal Magisterium, sets forth to be believed as divinely revealed.

I also firmly accept and hold each and everything definitively proposed by the Church regarding teaching on faith and morals.

Moreover, I adhere with religious submission of will and intellect to the teachings which either the Roman Pontiff or the College of Bishops enunciate when they exercise their authentic Magisterium, even if they do not intend to proclaim these teachings by a definitive act.

OATH OF FIDELITY
ON ASSUMING AN OFFICE
TO BE EXERCISED IN THE NAME OF THE CHURCH
(Formula to be used by members of the Christian faithful mentioned in canon 833, nn. 5-8)

I, N., in assuming the office of ………, promise that in my words and in my actions I shall always preserve communion with the Catholic Church.
With great care and fidelity I shall carry out the duties incuмbent on me toward the Church, both universal and particular, in which, according to the provisions of the law, I have been called to exercise my service.
In fulfilling the charge entrusted to me in the name of the Church, I shall hold fast to the deposit of faith in its entirety; I shall faithfully hand it on and explain it, and I shall avoid any teachings contrary to it.
I shall follow and foster the common discipline of the entire Church and I shall maintain the observance of all ecclesiastical laws, especially those contained in the Code of Canon Law.

With Christian obedience I shall follow what the Bishops, as authentic doctors and teachers of the faith, declare, or what they, as those who govern the Church, establish. I shall also faithfully assist the diocesan Bishops, so that the apostolic activity, exercised in the name and by mandate of the Church, may be carried out in communion with the Church.

So help me God, and God’s Holy Gospels on which I place my hand.
(Variations in the fourth and fifth paragraphs of the formulary,
for use by those members of the Christian faithful indicated in can. 833, n. 8)
I shall foster the common discipline of the entire Church and I shall insist on the observance of all ecclesiastical laws, especially those contained in the Code of Canon Law.

With Christian obedience I shall follow what the Bishops, as authentic doctors and teachers of the faith, declare, or what they, as those who govern the Church, establish. I shall also — with due regard for the character and purpose of my institute — faithfully assist the diocesan Bishops, so that the apostolic activity, exercised in the name and by mandate of the Church, may be carried out in communion with the Church.

Comment:I can guess already the recommendations of the bishops: "You do too much penance" and "pray too much", you need to "re-educate the people on Vatican II".

Could Bishop Williamson's upcoming "announcement"  stated in this week's Eleison Comments be a result of these talks?