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Offline SeanJohnson

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Did +Vigano Just Get Censored?
« on: September 21, 2021, 10:40:13 AM »
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  • I noticed as I was transcribing "The +Vigano Tapes" (segment #8), it ends very abruptly after +Vigano makes this comment:

    "It is disconcerting that, after having built the rhetoric of the post World War II era on anti-nαzιsm, no one seems to recognize that the same discrimination that made cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs possible is now arising again in a more ruthless form.  One wonders whether the totalitarian regimes of the 20th century did not constitute and prepare for what is happening today, starting with the state of Israel." 

    (See here, starting a 6:25: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=393&v=OyKE-k6SFPw&feature=emb_title)

    Then, Segment #9 (which would logically continue the previous thought) is deleted from YouTube, and we are told the tape segments are no longer being uploaded there.

    Was +Vigano censored for staing Israel was a totalitarian regime, set up to play a role in world totalitarianism, and the subsequent tape segment (#9) removed from YouTube for further commentary on the same subject?

    Update: The comments section confirms that YouTube did in fact remove segments #9 (and segments 10-15 are "hidden").  If anyone can find them uploaded on another video platform, can you please post link here?

    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    Re: Did +Vigano Just Get Censored?
    « Reply #1 on: September 21, 2021, 10:52:25 AM »
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  • Here are transcriptions for segments #7-8 (but as metioned above, there is no way of knowing whether segment #8 is complete):



    Q: Your Excellency, you’ve spoken of the distinction between legitimate authority and illegitimate authority; between legitimate commands that we should obey, and illegitimate commands that we should not obey and resist.  But how can we distinguish between them?  Isn’t it true that St. Paul, in his Letter to the Romans, spoke very clearly about the necessity of Christians obeying the constituted authorities?  What do you say?
     
    +Vigano:  St. Paul was a Roman citizen, and as such, he had before him the example of the power regulated by laws that later form the basis for the law of Western nations, and which were also adopted by the Church.  The authority that governs us today, instead, has cancelled millennium of Greco-Roman and Christian civilization, bringing us back to the barbarism of the Assyrians, to the absence of law (an absolute principle to which even authority itself is bound to conform). 
     
    Those who hold power present themselves as representatives of the people, but in fact, they act against the people, without any constraint, without limits (either from above, since they have cancelled  the divine origin  of those who govern, nor from below, since they do not allow citizens to elect their own representatives, unless they are certain they can manipulate the vote to their own advantage).
     
    I would like to underline this barbarization of the law, which in my opinion is the cause of the crisis of authority; of its perversion and its brazen arrogance.  These tyrants, barricaded in their palaces, guarded by armed guards, behave like Sennacherrib: They find authority in themselves, in a delirium of omnipotence guaranteed to them by the availability of financial, political, and media means.  And what leaves us disconcerted is, the masses allow themselves to be tyrannized precisely in an area that has made a revolution one of the key themes of modernity, to the point of introducing this principle right into the Second Vatican Council.  For a genuinely Catholic perspective, however, chaos manifests itself both in rebellion against good authority and in servile obedience to evil authority, in a subversion that we have today right before our eyes, that leaves us incredulous in this anachronistic arrogance. 
     
     
    Q: So what you are really saying is that there can be two types of chaos.  One is a type of servile submission to illegitimate commands.  And the other would be a type of renegade disobedience to legitimate commands.  How does one distinguish between these two things?  And when we distinguish between the two, what can we do to resist the abuses?
     
    +Vigano:  In the civil sphere, there is a need to reject any cooperation with the current pandemic narrative, and with the climate emergency that may soon replace it.  Disregarding the regulations that are illegitimate, that expose citizens to concrete risks for their health, is morally lawful, and in certain circuмstances is even a duty.  No way can one jeopardize one’s life or health, or one’s children, not even in the face of the threat of retailiation, or in that case our participation would make us guilty before God, and deserving of His punishment. In no way can we accept the administration of experimental gene serums, in the course of whose production, children have been killed in the third month of pregnancy.  Their blood would fall upon those who produced them, as well as upon those who imposed them, and those who received them.  In no case, should be tolerated that pseudo-pandemic whose victims are fewer in number than the victims of the supposed vaccines, because of an alibi for imposing control and limitation on natural freedom and civil rights.  And if the media is enslaved to power, and an accomplice of this conspiracy, censoring every dissenting voice, this should persuade us that the dystopian society described by George Orwell has now been realized, following a precise script under a single direction.  I denounced it in my appeal last year, and no one who rereads it can accuse me of sounding unjustified alarms.
     
    Let us not forget that, since 2010, the Rockerfeller Foundation has predicted four scenarios for these [sic] years.  One of these was the pandemic Lockstep.  Roadmaps have been studied for all of these scenarios, and it is disturbing to see how the one relating to the pandemic has essentially turned out as expected. 
     
    The thousands of fires started around the world in recent days are providing the mainstream media the pretext to shout about the climate emergency, in the name of which they are already warning us that we have to prepare for a few lockdowns and new forms of limitation of our freedoms and of our rights.  But then there will be the global cyber attack on the economic crisis, which has already been studied and planned out, and whose first sign we can observe.  All of these strategies have the attack on the individuals as their objective.  Isolated, an attack on his emotionality, and his daily rhythms, and in his work.  And also attack the masses in an undifferentiated and anonymous way: Those who dissent (that is, those who do not accept being turned ino buinea pigs and seeing the world population decimated by transforming it into a mass of chronically ill [people]), must understand that disobedience is just as necessary as it was at the time of other dictatorships of the last century, and even more so. 
     
    It is disconcerting that, after having built the rhetoric of the post World War II era on anti-nαzιsm, no one seems to recognize that the same discrimination that made cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs possible is now arising again in a more ruthless form.  One wonders whether the totalitarian regimes of the 20th century did not constitute and prepare for what is happening today, starting with the state of Israel.  [Video ends abruptly]


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    Re: Did +Vigano Just Get Censored?
    « Reply #2 on: September 21, 2021, 11:28:41 AM »
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  • I noticed as I was transcribing "The +Vigano Tapes" (segment #8), it ends very abruptly after +Vigano makes this comment:

    "It is disconcerting that, after having built the rhetoric of the post World War II era on anti-nαzιsm, no one seems to recognize that the same discrimination that made cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs possible is now arising again in a more ruthless form.  One wonders whether the totalitarian regimes of the 20th century did not constitute and prepare for what is happening today, starting with the state of Israel." 

    (See here, starting a 6:25: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=393&v=OyKE-k6SFPw&feature=emb_title)

    Then, Segment #9 (which would logically continue the previous thought) is deleted from YouTube, and we are told the tape segments are no longer being uploaded there.

    Was +Vigano censored for staing Israel was a totalitarian regime, set up to play a role in world totalitarianism, and the subsequent tape segment (#9) removed from YouTube for further commentary on the same subject?

    Update: The comments section confirms that YouTube did in fact remove segments #9 (and segments 10-15 are "hidden").  If anyone can find them uploaded on another video platform, can you please post link here?
    The whole interview is on Planetlockdown, once there they have a link to Bitchute.

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    Re: Did +Vigano Just Get Censored?
    « Reply #3 on: September 21, 2021, 11:35:23 AM »
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    Re: Did +Vigano Just Get Censored?
    « Reply #4 on: September 21, 2021, 11:41:21 AM »
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    Re: Did +Vigano Just Get Censored?
    « Reply #5 on: September 21, 2021, 12:22:25 PM »
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  • The whole interview is on Planetlockdown, once there they have a link to Bitchute.
    Here it is the whole interview:

    Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò | Full Interview | Planet Lockdown (bitchute.com)

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    ou can download it here: Full Interviews – Planet Lockdown Docuмentary Film (planetlockdownfilm.com)

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    Re: Did +Vigano Just Get Censored?
    « Reply #6 on: September 21, 2021, 02:24:12 PM »
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  • Was +Vigano censored for staing Israel was a totalitarian regime, set up to play a role in world totalitarianism, and the subsequent tape segment (#9) removed from YouTube for further commentary on the same subject?



    Just to clarify the issue for everyone:

     Israel is a terrorist state and a fake nation. 

    This fake zionist state will be dismantled by a converted Russia and returned to Christendom, once a proper Fatima Consecration is performed by a valid Pope.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Did +Vigano Just Get Censored?
    « Reply #7 on: September 22, 2021, 12:20:31 AM »
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  • Just to clarify the issue for everyone:

     Israel is a terrorist state and a fake nation. 

    This fake zionist state will be dismantled by a converted Russia and returned to Christendom, once a proper Fatima Consecration is performed by a valid Pope.

    You’d find like minds among the Haredi and Satmar Hasidim!  Only joking, but even they as (fake) Jєωs realize the present nation of Israel is not that which is promised in their Torah.  (The Torah is not the problem.  It’s the тαℓмυd, and farther afield, Kabbalah, in particular, Zohar, Tanya, etc.  Depends a lot upon which sect you’re dealing with.)


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    Re: Did +Vigano Just Get Censored?
    « Reply #8 on: September 22, 2021, 09:49:59 AM »
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    Re: Did +Vigano Just Get Censored?
    « Reply #9 on: September 22, 2021, 03:01:58 PM »
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  • GAB is the one to use for no censorship, especially of this kind of material - it is "onto" the Js.
    If any one saith that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and on that account wrests to some sort of metaphor those words of Our Lord Jesus Christ, "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost...,"  Let Him Be Anathama.  -COUNCIL OF TRENT Sess VII Canon II “On Baptism"

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    Re: Did +Vigano Just Get Censored?
    « Reply #10 on: September 22, 2021, 03:09:39 PM »
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  • (The Torah is not the problem.  It’s the тαℓмυd, and farther afield, Kabbalah, in particular, Zohar, Tanya, etc.  Depends a lot upon which sect you’re dealing with.)


    Absolutely. The "Torah" is God's word, first five books. 
    Rom. 3:25 Whom God hath proposed to be a propitiation, through faith in his blood, to the shewing of his justice, for the remission of former sins" 

    Apoc 17:17 For God hath given into their hearts to do that which pleaseth him: that they give their kingdom to the beast, till the words of God be fulfilled.


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    Re: Did +Vigano Just Get Censored?
    « Reply #11 on: September 22, 2021, 03:59:19 PM »
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  • I don't really like Moynihan's tone with the Archbishop.  At one point he slyly undercuts +Vigano by implying that the +Vigano is not qualified to speak about the jab.  At another point he criticizes the Archbishop for being too lofty in characterizing this as a battle between God and Satan.  Some of his questions don't make any sense at all.

    I'd love to make a copy of this video with Moynihan cut out of it, because +Vigano's answers are profound despite the poor questions.

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    Re: Did +Vigano Just Get Censored?
    « Reply #12 on: September 22, 2021, 04:23:48 PM »
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  • Moynihan is neo-trad at best.  Has foot in both camps.  Questions accordingly. 
    If any one saith that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and on that account wrests to some sort of metaphor those words of Our Lord Jesus Christ, "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost...,"  Let Him Be Anathama.  -COUNCIL OF TRENT Sess VII Canon II “On Baptism"

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    Re: Did +Vigano Just Get Censored?
    « Reply #13 on: September 22, 2021, 05:16:44 PM »
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  • I don't really like Moynihan's tone with the Archbishop.  At one point he slyly undercuts +Vigano by implying that the +Vigano is not qualified to speak about the jab.  At another point he criticizes the Archbishop for being too lofty in characterizing this as a battle between God and Satan.  Some of his questions don't make any sense at all.

    I'd love to make a copy of this video with Moynihan cut out of it, because +Vigano's answers are profound despite the poor questions.

    If only I could interview +Vigano!!!
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Did +Vigano Just Get Censored?
    « Reply #14 on: September 23, 2021, 02:52:59 PM »
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  • J.M.J.

    This has #9 and #10

    https://gloria.tv/post/iULPS2jgphpK1tyyYbhRBDvYr

    #9 has now been deleted from Bitchute!

    The link you supply here only shows #10.

    Does anyone know where I can find Tape #9??????????
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."