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Title: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Matthew on September 09, 2017, 09:05:11 AM
They call this a "Child Protection Policy" -- how does it protect our kids to defend mortally sinful behaviors such as masturbation, fornication, and sodomy?

This is in a SSPX UK school! Someone sent this to me in an email. And according to this same person it is not even government funded! To quote him: "It's not even government funded mate..... totally independent funding from parents and benefactors"

SAINT MICHAEL'S SCHOOL
Harts Lane School
Burghclere
Newbury
Berkshire RG20 9JW
United Kingdom

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I don't think I've ever felt so shocked, disgusted, dismayed, betrayed before.. Poor, saintly, Archbishop Lefebvre is totally betrayed and kicked in the ... for good measure...

* Solitary Masturbation
* Having girl/boyfriends who are of the same, opposite or any gender
* Interest in erotica/pornography
* Having sɛҳuąƖ relationships
* Consenting oral and/or penetrative sex with others of the same or opposite gender........


The above is just a small sample of "safe and healthy sɛҳuąƖ development" contained in a new, so-called, Child Protection Policy at an SSPX school. It's found on the SSPX UK website under the title "SMS Child Protection Policy 17.07.2016" and according to the docuмent web address was added to the website on or around 16th July 2017.
The offending section is Appendix IX, which is entitled "Brook sɛҳuąƖ Behaviours Traffic Light Tool".

http://www.sspx.co.uk/sMS%20CPP%2017.07.16.pdf

Brook, is a notorious pro-abortion, pro-contraception, sɛҳuąƖ 'advice' organisation.
This disgusting 'Child Protection Policy' docuмent first made an appearance one-year ago when it was sent to staff and some parents of the school. The previous headmaster, who was recently replaced, erased the offending appendix IX from the file in front of concerned parents when it was bought to his attention. He told parents he knew nothing about the appendix being added to the docuмent and sent out an email apologising for his "lack of oversight."
Now it is back and publicly displayed on the SSPX website along with other official school policy docuмents.


http://www.sspx.co.uk/sms-policy-table.htm

This is utterly despicable!



St. Michael's School

An independent school founded in 1991 to give a traditional Catholic education to children from 5-18 years.
 

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St. Michael’s is nestled within 30 acres of beautiful countryside.  It is a school of the Society of St. Pius X.
For further information:
Rev. Fr. John Brucciani
Headmaster
St. Michael’s School
Harts Lane
Burghclere
Hampshire RG20 9JW

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The devil has turned this fight up to 11. Let's pray and fight to defend the innocence of Traditional Catholic children!


UPDATE: The SSPX authorities at St. Michael's have taken down the whole links page, as well as the PDF -- in under 9 hours! They must keep an eye on CathInfo at all times...
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Matthew on September 09, 2017, 09:38:03 AM
This really ties in with what we already know about the neo-SSPX.

Remember that several SSPX officials have recently expressed a specific interest in making their schools more acceptable to the (corrupt, modern) world at large. Having liberal, politically correct policies such as this "Child Protection Policy" will certainly take them a long way towards that goal!

Does anyone remember the particulars? It was many months ago. I remember being shocked at his expressed priority, once I heard it.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Croix de Fer on September 09, 2017, 09:50:49 AM
The fact that there has been no swift iron fist by Bishop Felay to annihilate this reprobation tells me he is in tacit approval.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Student of Qi on September 09, 2017, 10:49:33 AM
It is presumption, but what if the children are already so corrupt that it seems "practical" to install such a filthy accommodation? Remember Post Falls? And to be honest, I think a number of children churned out by SSPX schools aren't too different from those that go elsewhere... that is my limited, negative opinion. I realize, though, that there are still plenty of good children out there and they need real action to protect them.

The SSPX died a long time ago, it is only apparent in recent years. People need to take matters into their own hands to pressure a reformed direction or get off the Titanic.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: happenby on September 09, 2017, 11:23:57 AM
It is presumption, but what if the children are already so corrupt that it seems "practical" to install such a filthy accommodation? Remember Post Falls? And to be honest, I think a number of children churned out by SSPX schools aren't too different from those that go elsewhere... that is my limited, negative opinion. I realize, though, that there are still plenty of good children out there and they need real action to protect them.

The SSPX died a long time ago, it is only apparent in recent years. People need to take matters into their own hands to pressure a reformed direction or get off the Titanic.
Condoning and/or promoting mortal sin is NEVER ok. Deep deep corruption in the SSPX is no surprise, but deviant and immoral? It was only a matter of time, like one foot follows the other. 
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Student of Qi on September 09, 2017, 12:18:09 PM
Condoning and/or promoting mortal sin is NEVER ok. Deep deep corruption in the SSPX is no surprise, but deviant and immoral? It was only a matter of time, like one foot follows the other.
I have no intention of condoning this matter. If what was written is perceived as such, I retract what was said.  What I mean to say is what do you do if the superiors "think" this is neccesary in order to deal with an already rampant and out of hand situation?
If anything, everyone should send them e-mails telling them how disgraceful their polocies are, instead of just lingering around the net being outraged and engaging in useless banter. "Action speaks louder then words," and sending and e-mail and saying a prayer is better then sitting here reading this.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: happenby on September 09, 2017, 12:24:34 PM
I have no intention of condoning this matter. If what was written is perceived as such, I retract what was said.  What I mean to say is what do you do if the superiors "think" this is neccesary in order to deal with an already rampant and out of hand situation?
If anything, everyone should send them e-mails telling them how disgraceful their polocies are, instead of just lingering around the net being outraged and engaging in useless banter. "Action speaks louder then words," and sending and e-mail and saying a prayer is better then sitting here reading this.
Agreed.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: JezusDeKoning on September 09, 2017, 02:11:06 PM
It's a docuмent every school in the United Kingdom is required to have. I have done the research and searched the title of the docuмent. Multiple schools in the UK come up, all with the selfsame docuмent, layout and wording. The only thing different, of course, is the school's insignia. They're not defending anything, they're required by UK law to have that docuмent.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Matthew on September 09, 2017, 02:22:09 PM
Well I understand that Fr. S had removed that page, and that once he left, the page was re-instated.

If he were still there, I bet that docuмent would still be gone. And the school would still be functioning just fine!


But even if it were required by law (and 100% enforced), I'd still have to ask: Is this what we've come to? To operate schools, we must "officially" condone deviant behavior, even if "unofficially" we speak against it?

This smacks of a compromise; the proverbial "grain of incense" offered to a false god. Like the priests of England submitting to the King as the head of the "Church of England" instead of the Pope. It might seem like a small thing, but it's not. It's a sellout.

Isn't this the first step down a slippery slope? What about teachers who are lukewarm to begin with -- they'll look at this docuмent, and think the school is "mainstream liberal" and begin to act accordingly.

At first, it's a legal technicality. But as time goes on, more and more teachers will read it and take it seriously -- having failed to "get the memo" -- and the liberal snowball will continue to roll downhill faster and faster, picking up steam.

I suppose in some countries, which are as wretched as Great Britain, good Catholics are called upon by God to homeschool their children. Apparently even private school is out.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Student of Qi on September 09, 2017, 03:48:07 PM
Wait... they HAVE TO? What the Hades about "RELIGIOUS LIBERTY"? I heard England subscribes to that, don't they? They should be able to protest that "necessity".
   "You are free to believe that X is immoral, but you still have to accept it because you're not allowed to do anything about it." Does that make sense?
   So, one law implies you can reject something while another law says you can't reject what the other law prctically says you can. And if you have to pick one to follow you mandatorily have to go with the one that is prohibitive... Legalities impress me; it's all lies, hypocrisy, and contradiction. Are there any others who see this?
   If one was part of a religion that offers human sacrifice, but was arrested for "murder/homicide," is that not an infringement of his/her religious beliefs? That is inconsistent. The laws should be clear, explicit, and non-contradictory. Is that too much to ask? Yes, it probably is.

Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: PG on September 09, 2017, 04:03:44 PM
This seems way to far fetched for me.  The sspx is not perfect, but I cannot see this lasting long like before.  I think it has to be a mistake.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Tradplorable on September 09, 2017, 04:15:16 PM

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St. Michael’s is nestled within 30 acres of beautiful countryside.  It is a school of the Society of St. Pius X.
For further information:
Rev. Fr. John Brucciani
Headmaster
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That's unfortunate.
Fr. Brucciani gives a great sermon (sounds like Vincent Price) and I would not have taken him to be a company man.
Although, maybe to even still be in the SSPX at this point they are all company men.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Nadir on September 09, 2017, 05:05:12 PM
It's a docuмent every school in the United Kingdom is required to have. I have done the research and searched the title of the docuмent. Multiple schools in the UK come up, all with the selfsame docuмent, layout and wording. The only thing different, of course, is the school's insignia. They're not defending anything, they're required by UK law to have that docuмent.
Can you back this statement up with evidence? You say you've done the research but you offer nothing to substantiate it.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: JmJ2cents on September 09, 2017, 06:00:37 PM
 The school is required to have in place a suitable Child Protection Policy but such a policy does not have to include the Brook 'Traffic Lights' garbage or anything remotely similar.

"The official State bodies concerned with Child Protection only offer guidance in relation to creating what they consider a suitable policy. It's up to the school, or other type of institution/association that might be required by law to have a child Protection Policy in place to actually create the policy. It's easily googled under a search time like "Child Protection Policy, Procedure and Guidance UK"...... for example SSPX UK is a registered charity and the Charity Commission (which is an official government body) offers guidance on creating child protection policies......"

 https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/safeguarding-children-and-young-people/safeguarding-children-and-young-people (https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gov.uk%2Fgovernment%2Fpublications%2Fsafeguarding-children-and-young-people%2Fsafeguarding-children-and-young-people&h=ATNF6n3w9PBZ9xZaYGTA1dGMmIfNt1WVt-0uifxBDKj26D2jUmgQrx-31cEcn6j1QrNNs7PDwl1-laV_7RCT3bb16IT096A4CSlDqXWwEhIElNYLO8398AyDtBtap6ZYJ3qOSJQQicV0MomGrRU)

A friend of mine from FB asked me to post this.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: JmJ2cents on September 09, 2017, 06:03:31 PM
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Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Marlelar on September 09, 2017, 06:03:49 PM
The links in the OP do not work.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: JezusDeKoning on September 09, 2017, 06:45:27 PM
Well I understand that Fr. S had removed that page, and that once he left, the page was re-instated.

If he were still there, I bet that docuмent would still be gone. And the school would still be functioning just fine!


But even if it were required by law (and 100% enforced), I'd still have to ask: Is this what we've come to? To operate schools, we must "officially" condone deviant behavior, even if "unofficially" we speak against it?

This smacks of a compromise; the proverbial "grain of incense" offered to a false god. Like the priests of England submitting to the King as the head of the "Church of England" instead of the Pope. It might seem like a small thing, but it's not. It's a sellout.

Isn't this the first step down a slippery slope? What about teachers who are lukewarm to begin with -- they'll look at this docuмent, and think the school is "mainstream liberal" and begin to act accordingly.

At first, it's a legal technicality. But as time goes on, more and more teachers will read it and take it seriously -- having failed to "get the memo" -- and the liberal snowball will continue to roll downhill faster and faster, picking up steam.

I suppose in some countries, which are as wretched as Great Britain, good Catholics are called upon by God to homeschool their children. Apparently even private school is out.
The same docuмent (http://redlandsprimaryhants.com/policies/140-child-protection-policy/file)
In the same form (http://www.northwoodpri.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Child-Protection-Policy.pdf)
At numerous schools (http://www.swanmore-school.co.uk/child-protection-policy-procedure-and-guidance/)
In the United Kingdom (http://bartonprimaryschool.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Child-Protection-Policy-March-17.pdf)
Of GB and Northern Ireland. (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0mzr4JOl2khX3pFZGRLN1Q1V0k/preview) And outlying territories. (http://inspirelearningfederation.org/Policies/2015-2016/Child%20Protection%20Policy%20-%202015-16%20-%20web.pdf)
Apologies for not producing the sources earlier, I had to attend to other things.
But yes, it's what's the UK has come to. They want too much control in many things and it scares me.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Wessex on September 09, 2017, 06:50:14 PM
I often wondered how this school got around the growing non-judgmental child sex education programme being forced on all schools. Its approach could well be to hide it away until government inspectors come acalling. It is not about funding. In fact, the elitist fee-paying schools like to show they are politically correct at the same time as professing some Christian philosophy. It is all a nonsense of course intended to please two masters. So-called Catholic schools have done this for a very long time. The school I attended which was run by Christian Brothers placed more emphasis on getting on in the world and less on the religious life. I long ago considered such places as schools like any other but with a non-confrontational cultural bias. Did not Bishop Fulton Sheen warn against sending vulnerable children to Catholic schools? 
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Last Tradhican on September 10, 2017, 01:08:09 PM
Only a cowardly or homo director of a Catholic school, would display a policy like that.  
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: MaterDominici on September 10, 2017, 01:16:55 PM
The links in the OP do not work.
That was fast. Taken down in under 9 hours.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Matthew on September 10, 2017, 01:22:22 PM
That was fast. Taken down in under 9 hours.

I told you all many times before -- SSPX priests, priors, and officials all over the world have CathInfo as their homepage -- or at least on the main Bookmarks Bar (not in the Bookmarks Menu -- that's not accessible enough.) They keep an eagle eye on on their "enemy" at all times. And in this they do well: CathInfo is one of their largest public or online enemies. What I mean is, they can't keep an eye on Bp. Zendejas because he keeps a low (read: non-existent) profile on the Internet. They no doubt have a great interest in him, but all they can learn about him comes through CathInfo, the St. Dominic's Chapel website, etc.

I invite everyone to pay attention to the original post, at the bottom. There are THREE links. A graphic, and 2 links above that. One link is to the "Child Protection Policy" PDF. The other is a PDF printout of that school's links webpage yesterday morning. Both are archived for the permanent record, and will be around as long as CathInfo (did I say how permanent they were?)

EDIT: I've included most of the materials at the bottom of this post as well. I created a graphic, screenshot version of the Table of Links to St. Michael's School Policies page as well.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Matthew on September 10, 2017, 02:09:10 PM
Need I point out --

When you catch a child with his hand in the cookie jar, and he puts back the cookie, do you conclude, "What an honest little boy!"
Heck no! He would have raided the jar if only you hadn't been there.

The SSPX taking down this material is the largest admission of guilt I could possibly imagine. All the excuses ("all schools in the UK have to have this -- it's required by law!") fall apart to pieces in the face of what the SSPX just did. They admitted that they COULD have taken it down at any time -- they just didn't want to.

If it weren't for a certain person informing me about this, and CathInfo publishing it to the four corners of Tradition, the material would still be up on the website today.

They want themselves, and their schools, to be increasingly "mainstream" and accepted by the wicked Modern World. They want their name removed from the SLPC website, they want to stop being called αnтι-ѕємιтєs, etc. and for those cowardly goals all I can say is: shame on them!
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: St Ignatius on September 10, 2017, 02:17:58 PM
I told you all many times before -- SSPX priests, priors, and officials all over the world have CathInfo as their homepage -- or at least on the main Bookmarks Bar (not in the Bookmarks Menu -- that's not accessible enough.) They keep an eagle eye on on their "enemy" at all times. 
Sounds like the profile of an adulterer... always a watchman at the door.

This is not normal behavior of any upright citizen or organization. 
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Incredulous on September 10, 2017, 03:41:38 PM
That was fast. Taken down in under 9 hours.
It demonstrates Menzingen has someone tracking Cathinfo 24/7.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Matthew on September 10, 2017, 04:11:27 PM
It demonstrates Menzingen has someone tracking Cathinfo 24/7.

Like the time someone from ECONE, SWITZERLAND was found browsing CathInfo -- and a very important page for the SSPX, at that...

https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/interesting-coincidence/
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Last Tradhican on September 10, 2017, 04:23:52 PM
They want themselves, and their schools, to be increasingly "mainstream" and accepted by the wicked Modern World. They want their name removed from the SLPC website, they want to stop being called αnтι-ѕємιтєs, etc. and for those cowardly goals all I can say is: shame on them!
This goes way beyond being accepted as mainstream. This is the work of sɛҳuąƖ deviants. No man would post something like that.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Nadir on September 10, 2017, 04:32:55 PM
 All the excuses ("all schools in the UK have to have this -- it's required by law!") fall apart 
I didn't read those links posted by the person who gave this lily-livered response - can't waste my time on things like that.
You will often hear people say things like that. "You have to apply to the government etc blah blah blah"
Besides policy is policy and law is another thing again (usually). It's been taken down so the bluff has been called, not by choice but by internal pressure and the attempt to appear clean. 
Good work, Matthew. Ever vigilant.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Cristera on September 10, 2017, 08:32:16 PM
The links still work for some people. Not for many others. If you go to the main page of the school St. Michael, you could see that the entire "School Policies" section disappeared. 

I wonder why the links still work for some people. Weird.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: PG on September 10, 2017, 11:43:42 PM
Before this was removed from the sspx website, how easy or difficult was it to locate these sinful behavior pages?  Did one have to dig much?  Or, was it in your face obvious?
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Incredulous on September 11, 2017, 09:59:28 AM


(http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2014/09/12/12166569/gI_60006_fr_jurgen_wegner460.png)
Ya!
Cathinfo is my "early-warning" radar to avoid PR disasters.

Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: DZ PLEASE on September 11, 2017, 10:26:45 AM

(http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2014/09/12/12166569/gI_60006_fr_jurgen_wegner460.png)
Ya!
Cathinfo is my "early-warning" radar to avoid PR disasters.

My folks weren't kidding when they said, "Smoking will stunt your growth!".

You're wee.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Incredulous on September 11, 2017, 10:53:22 AM
My folks weren't kidding when they said, "Smoking will stunt your growth!".

You're wee.

Admittedly, cigar tobacco... I'm fond of.


But, over time, I've found I'm actually allergic to little arrogant German priests, who:

1. Think they are PR geniuses, and work closely with zionist lawyers to re-brand +ABL's traditional religious order.

2. Who uses sacramental extortion to take-over independent trad chapels and real estate assets.

3. Who blatantly lie to cover-up multi-level, trad school sex scandals and priestly incompetence.

You might want to put that in your pipe and smoke on it... as you ponder the masonic infiltration of the SSPX.   :cowboy:
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: DZ PLEASE on September 11, 2017, 11:00:02 AM
Admittedly, cigar tobacco... I'm fond of.


But, over time, I've found I'm actually allergic to little arrogant German priests, who:

1. Think they are PR geniuses, and work closely with zionist lawyers to re-brand +ABL's traditional religious order.

2. Who uses sacramental extortion to take-over independent trad chapels and real estate assets.

3. Who blatantly lie to cover-up multi-level, trad school sex scandals and priestly incompetence.

You might want to put that in your pipe and smoke on it... as you ponder the masonic infiltration of the SSPX.   :cowboy:

I just thought the picture was funny, and I'm a Sedevacantist so, please, after you.

Sympathy? Zero.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Tradplorable on September 11, 2017, 12:08:25 PM



But, over time, I've found I'm actually allergic to little arrogant German priests, who:

1. Think they are PR geniuses, and work closely with zionist lawyers to re-brand +ABL's traditional religious order.

2. Who uses sacramental extortion to take-over independent trad chapels and real estate assets.

3. Who blatantly lie to cover-up multi-level, trad school sex scandals and priestly incompetence.

You might want to put that in your pipe and smoke on it... as you ponder the masonic infiltration of the SSPX.   :cowboy:
Same here...allergic.
I'm also allergic to the sound of Veggy's voice in sermons, it's like nails on a chalkboard.
Your list is great, and number "3" does not get nearly enough attention here.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: miserere nobis on September 11, 2017, 02:17:51 PM
So if I understand this correctly, this policy is mandated by the government for all schools throughout Great Britain, even private ones. Presumably then if they didn't have such a policy the school would be shut down - that's the choice.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: MaterDominici on September 11, 2017, 02:53:34 PM
So if I understand this correctly, this policy is mandated by the government for all schools throughout Great Britain, even private ones. Presumably then if they didn't have such a policy the school would be shut down - that's the choice.
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someone already added that this "traffic light" policy is NOT required; the school is free to write their own

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The school is required to have in place a suitable Child Protection Policy but such a policy does not have to include the Brook 'Traffic Lights' garbage or anything remotely similar. 
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Croix de Fer on September 11, 2017, 03:03:19 PM
I told you all many times before -- SSPX priests, priors, and officials all over the world have CathInfo as their homepage -- or at least on the main Bookmarks Bar (not in the Bookmarks Menu -- that's not accessible enough.) They keep an eagle eye on on their "enemy" at all times. And in this they do well: CathInfo is one of their largest public or online enemies. What I mean is, they can't keep an eye on Bp. Zendejas because he keeps a low (read: non-existent) profile on the Internet. They no doubt have a great interest in him, but all they can learn about him comes through CathInfo, the St. Dominic's Chapel website, etc.

I invite everyone to pay attention to the original post, at the bottom. There are THREE links. A graphic, and 2 links above that. One link is to the "Child Protection Policy" PDF. The other is a PDF printout of that school's links webpage yesterday morning. Both are archived for the permanent record, and will be around as long as CathInfo (did I say how permanent they were?)

EDIT: I've included most of the materials at the bottom of this post as well. I created a graphic, screenshot version of the Table of Links to St. Michael's School Policies page as well.

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Need I point out --

When you catch a child with his hand in the cookie jar, and he puts back the cookie, do you conclude, "What an honest little boy!"
Heck no! He would have raided the jar if only you hadn't been there.

The SSPX taking down this material is the largest admission of guilt I could possibly imagine. All the excuses ("all schools in the UK have to have this -- it's required by law!") fall apart to pieces in the face of what the SSPX just did. They admitted that they COULD have taken it down at any time -- they just didn't want to.

If it weren't for a certain person informing me about this, and CathInfo publishing it to the four corners of Tradition, the material would still be up on the website today.

They want themselves, and their schools, to be increasingly "mainstream" and accepted by the wicked Modern World. They want their name removed from the SLPC website, they want to stop being called αnтι-ѕємιтєs, etc. and for those cowardly goals all I can say is: shame on them!


Maybe these particular posts and the accompanying PDFs should be pinned, or pin the whole thread.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: miserere nobis on September 12, 2017, 10:35:26 AM
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someone already added that this "traffic light" policy is NOT required; the school is free to write their own
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Thanks, but I don't think this addresses the specific question.

The link provided by JmJ2cents only talks in general terms about charities. Now although the SSPX in Britain is a charity, the school itself is a registered private school, they have regular inspections from the school authorities. So the question remains, are there any specific legal requirements that a registered school must comply with?

Yesterday in England there was a row over parents removing their son from a "faith" school (C of E) due to another boy being allow to wear a dress (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-41224146 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-41224146)). The school's defence was that they are required by law to allow this (I don't know if this is true).

Perhaps JmJ2cents' friend can be more specific. Also, I'm not sure that by removing the material on line that means the policy itself has been removed.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: DZ PLEASE on September 12, 2017, 10:41:08 AM
Better a bumpkin in Heaven than a genius in Hell.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Incredulous on September 12, 2017, 10:59:46 AM
Sympathy? Zero.
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         Okay DZ,  I'll give you a puff.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: DZ PLEASE on September 12, 2017, 11:05:33 AM
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        Okay DZ,  I'll give you a puff.
I really owe my folks yet another apology.

That pic's hilarious.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Incredulous on September 12, 2017, 11:07:58 AM
Better a bumpkin in Heaven than a genius in Hell.

Accepting the gov't disclaimer fits Fr. Wegner's wordly "re-branding" program perfectly.

Members of the neo-SSPX are deluded Catholics.

They either forgot or never knew the time when the SSPX had the courage to fight for Catholic principles.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: PG on September 12, 2017, 11:26:37 AM
Does anyone think it is possible that the sspx has hired out its computer/internet apostolate to an outside company similar to how it hired a company to re brand it?  And, that this could be a mistake or even sabotage on their part?  I mean their website is quite high tech.  I think that is exactly what you do Matthew.  So, I guess you would be a good one to answer how easy/hard it would be to manage a website like theirs, and if it is reasonable.

Matthew said the previous headmaster had no knowledge of this.  And, they took this one down again(don't forget, that is a good thing).  I am not at all at the point of thinking the sspx wants to embrace these teachings.  This sɛҳuąƖ behavior stuff is not a two steps forward one steps back thing, it is way more and out of place. 
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Wessex on September 12, 2017, 08:46:37 PM
I doubt very much this school would have existed had the Society not been given a large chunk of property in a highly prosperous area in the Home Counties outside London. It is stretched in finding staff to run the place when the UK district is now down to nine priests. Its future is in great doubt and the few million it would realise would be very welcome!

At the end of the day religious schools will comply with the law and so-called Christians can always rely on rendering unto Caesar. There is no point in thinking staff will vigorously oppose progressive policy; their brief is to enable their charges to fit in with society in a comfortable way. And if this school positions itself high up the social scale, the demands of that class will have to be met. The preservation of the Society's interests will come before living the Christian life day after day. Abp. Lefebvre regarded his initiative as an experiment of tradition, perhaps realising that eventually the outside world could not be resisted by successors that were not as committed.   
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on September 13, 2017, 12:06:55 AM


That is disturbing. 

The purpose of sending children to Catholic school is to educate them and lead them to Jesus. 






Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: DZ PLEASE on September 13, 2017, 12:28:08 AM

That is disturbing.

The purpose of sending children to Catholic school is to educate them and lead them to Jesus.
The purpose of the world is to lead them to Hell.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Incredulous on September 13, 2017, 07:20:18 AM
I doubt very much this school would have existed had the Society not been given a large chunk of property in a highly prosperous area in the Home Counties outside London. It is stretched in finding staff to run the place when the UK district is now down to nine priests. Its future is in great doubt and the few million it would realise would be very welcome!

At the end of the day religious schools will comply with the law and so-called Christians can always rely on rendering unto Caesar. There is no point in thinking staff will vigorously oppose progressive policy; their brief is to enable their charges to fit in with society in a comfortable way. And if this school positions itself high up the social scale, the demands of that class will have to be met. The preservation of the Society's interests will come before living the Christian life day after day. Abp. Lefebvre regarded his initiative as an experiment of tradition, perhaps realising that eventually the outside world could not be resisted by successors that were not as committed.  
You may have the best insight on the SSPX UK district Wessex. It is consistent with your previous dire statements about them.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: wallflower on September 13, 2017, 10:11:08 AM
Does anyone think it is possible that the sspx has hired out its computer/internet apostolate to an outside company similar to how it hired a company to re brand it?  And, that this could be a mistake or even sabotage on their part?  I mean their website is quite high tech.  I think that is exactly what you do Matthew.  So, I guess you would be a good one to answer how easy/hard it would be to manage a website like theirs, and if it is reasonable.

Matthew said the previous headmaster had no knowledge of this.  And, they took this one down again(don't forget, that is a good thing).  I am not at all at the point of thinking the sspx wants to embrace these teachings.  This sɛҳuąƖ behavior stuff is not a two steps forward one steps back thing, it is way more and out of place.

It is possible but I don't know how probable. Usually people only build onto your website what you ask them to. It could be that someone is messing with them, in which case you'd hope they fired that person/company the last time it happened, so the chances of it happening again with a new company would be incredibly small. Maybe this policy is so popular in the UK that it's automatically built into every school website and the SSPX just didn't take the time to read it all. But there again you have to ask why it has happened twice

I agree with you and don't believe the SSPX wants to embrace these things either. (I can't speak for individual priests, I've been shocked to hear some of their advice in sɛҳuąƖ matters before, so God only knows; but as a whole I do not believe they are there.) But it is possible that this is another attempt to fit in, given their desperate desire to be accepted and seen as mainstream lately. Having this posted in spite of disagreeing with it could have been rationalized in the same vein as many of the other changes. It's external, it's a necessity, it's a lesser evil than being closed, it's posted but isn't what is actually taught etc... I have no idea what they are thinking really. It'd be a lot easier to believe it was an oversight if it weren't reoccurring. 

And good point, miserere nobis, removing the material online doesn't necessarily mean the policy itself has been removed.

No wonder they are so hot under the collar to make sure we keep our heads down and don't look at what's happening in other parishes. Problem is, like the VII changes, what is happening in another parish is often what's coming your way in the next 5, 10, 20 years, so we do have to pay a certain amount of attention.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: ilovepopcorn on September 14, 2017, 11:21:42 AM
John Brucciani is a despicable human being. Now he and his brother are getting close to Bishop Egan, according to a tweet from Egan's account: https://twitter.com/bishopegan?lang=en (from September 5). Brucciani the Younger will ruin the school before he's through. 

By the way, even if the school were required to post such a docuмent, Bruccani should have said so in a statement, and noted his strong opposition to having to post it. 
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: MaterDominici on September 14, 2017, 11:32:19 AM
John Brucciani is a despicable human being. Now he and his brother are getting close to Bishop Egan, according to a tweet from Egan's account: https://twitter.com/bishopegan?lang=en (from September 5). Brucciani the Younger will ruin the school before he's through.

By the way, even if the school were required to post such a docuмent, Bruccani should have said so in a statement, and noted his strong opposition to having to post it.
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Had a good meeting today with Fr Robert Brucciani of the FSSPX and his brother Fr John Brucciani, the new head of their school in Burghclere
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: TKGS on September 14, 2017, 11:42:56 AM
And, they took this one down again (don't forget, that is a good thing).  I am not at all at the point of thinking the sspx wants to embrace these teachings.  This sɛҳuąƖ behavior stuff is not a two steps forward one steps back thing, it is way more and out of place.
They took the page down off their internet webpage, but is it still an official part of their hard-copy policy book?
If they're just hiding the policy paper from their internet presence, I'm not at all sure it's "a good thing".  If this has been completely eliminated from the school's policy canon, then, yes, it's "a good thing".
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: miserere nobis on September 14, 2017, 12:08:56 PM

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Had a good meeting today with Fr Robert Brucciani of the FSSPX and his brother Fr John Brucciani, the new head of their school in Burghclere

Reading the twitter comments, it's funny how after all the furor over the lifting of the "excommunications" years ago some people still think the society are schismatic.

John Brucciani is a despicable human being. Now he and his brother are getting close to Bishop Egan, according to a tweet from Egan's account: https://twitter.com/bishopegan?lang=en (from September 5). Brucciani the Younger will ruin the school before he's through.
I think that is a very harsh comment: despicable, deserving hatred and contempt. I'd be wary of saying that about a priest.

They took the page down off their internet webpage, but is it still an official part of their hard-copy policy book?
If they're just hiding the policy paper from their internet presence, I'm not at all sure it's "a good thing".  If this has been completely eliminated from the school's policy canon, then, yes, it's "a good thing".

Hopefully there will be some clarification on all this soon.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: DZ PLEASE on September 14, 2017, 12:15:17 PM
Reading the twitter comments, it's funny how after all the furor over the lifting of the "excommunications" years ago some people still think the society are schismatic.
Sure, I mean it's not like they rebel against their hierarchs or anything.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Wessex on September 14, 2017, 06:54:08 PM
Cosy chats with the diocesan bishop may indicate the way things are going. And positioning oneself within the mainstream would certainly come with a requirement that the laws of the land would be adhered to willingly. SSPX priests are not crusaders and will learn from mainstream churchmen on how to do things. If the school remains a viable private fee-paying entity, I can see it in ten years being open to 'all faiths' catering to the particular needs of a privileged few. Catholic schools have for too long given an impression of holiness where very little has existed. There can be a huge gulf between the blackboard and the altar steps. They could be on different planets!
Title: Filing?/Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: AlligatorDicax on September 19, 2017, 01:30:25 PM
I'm not sure that by removing the material on line that means the policy itself has been removed.

That uncertainty is entirely sensible.

I can't claim knowledge of the bureaucratic environment of the U.K., but if it's similar enough to that of the the U.S.A., I'd expect that the legal form or matter that's actually required of each charity or school would be filing the policy with whatever government organization legally requires such a policy to exist.  If the government organization acknowledges--or would acknowledge if doubts were raised [†]--that the policy has been filed, then any means of publication, including accessibility on line would be legally optional.  So the presence or absence of such policy on line would not be a reliable or trustworthy evidence of whether it were still in effect at the charity or school in question.

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Note †: At least somewhat analogous to filing an annual tax return with the U.S. Internal Revenue "Service", in this sense: If one completes all the required forms with the proper care, and presents it to the U.S. Postal Service by the applicable deadline, one needn't worry about whether the return was filed, or whether the IRS received it.
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: PG on September 19, 2017, 01:53:24 PM
tkgs - Agreed.  If they still have it in the fine print, then that is double worse.  And, I think it is likely something official like this would be in printed form.  
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Matthew on September 24, 2017, 07:01:52 PM
You can't commit "detraction" against a public organization.

Sins of the tongue are serious insofar as they are against the charity we owe our neighbor, who has a right to his good reputation.
By telling true (private) things, or even lies, against his good name, we damage his good name and thus commit sin.

But the SSPX is an organization and is quite public.

It's not even detraction (which is telling the truth, rather than a lie) because this is not a private sin. It's a public sin.

But again, it's the public sin of an organization -- so the rules of charity, giving the benefit of the doubt, etc. do not apply.

But I'm wasting my time talking to you, since you think +Fellay isn't selling out to Rome! That's rich.

P.S. You can believe whatever you want about me or others in the Resistance. But the fact is that I was a huge defender and supporter of the SSPX, even spending 3.5 years of my life in one of their seminaries. Use your noggin! You can't be more dedicated than to give your whole life to an organization (or at least OFFER your life, and BE WILLING to give your life). After I was dismissed for no particular reason, I volunteered as a layman (in several departments) at whatever chapel I attended and was extremely active and supportive (especially time but also money) at several SSPX chapels over many years.

I wasn't looking for a reason to grumble, be discontent, etc. I always got along with everyone. I was optimistic and was looking for the continued growth, success, and expansion of the SSPX.

...until the sellout began.

Matthew


On 09/24/2017 06:36 PM, (name withheld) wrote:

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Dear Matthew, 
We talked a while ago I don't know if you remember me. Regarding the post you made about Saint Michaels academy in England
I'd like to say this. We don't know WHAT happened. It seems as if always the Resistance has always something to attack the
sspx on. The post you posted is a mortal sin of detraction. This should have been brought up to the District superior of
England and that's it. But now that it's gone this far, there is no excuse. It is plain in simple. This is detraction.
Please stop attacking the sspx. Fellay isn't compromising with Rome... think before you speak.
God bless you brother.
(Name withheld)

Sancte Pie Decime
Ora Pro Nobis!
AMDG

Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: noOneImportant on September 24, 2017, 07:56:45 PM
But I'm wasting my time talking to you, since you think +Fellay isn't selling out to Rome! That's rich.

http://www.correctiofilialis.org/signatories/

I would encourage you to take a brief glance through the names (or ctrl+f "fellay").
Title: Re: Deviant sɛҳuąƖ behavior defended by SSPX school in the UK
Post by: Wessex on September 25, 2017, 06:13:07 AM
While Society schools are not wittingly in the forefront of the ongoing sɛҳuąƖ revolution, they nevertheless are faced with progressive secular legislation and their licence to operate will depend on a level of compliance. It would seem any religious school nowadays has become a place where conflicting sets of morals are taught and as a result children become adults highly confused or indifferent. Social engineers know very well that children are great instruments of change and schools therefore are the first places to target. Unless they are vigorously challenged at the expense of being closed down, the religious character of the school becomes nominal and will reflect a culture in decline.

Conservatives should by now know better than to look to Rome for confirmation of traditional values applied to marriage and family. Rome is a reformed and reforming institution which is not unwilling to be part of the sɛҳuąƖ revolution. Bergoglio while posturing as a pope is helping to redefine marital and gender roles and is a great enemy of the Church. They are on a hiding to nothing with their weak half-hearted petitions; they and the organisations they represent will sooner or later comply with the spirit of the age. This is what conservatives do. They fear the disruption a real counter-revolution would cause to the status quo and vote to keep it in place if the pace of change can be slowed.