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Which of the following descriptions best characterizes you?

R&R
22 (50%)
Sedevacantist
10 (22.7%)
Sedeprivationist
3 (6.8%)
Sededoubtist
5 (11.4%)
Other
4 (9.1%)

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Offline poche

Re: Describe Your Catholic Identity
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2019, 02:10:36 AM »
Quote from: poche on October 12, 2019, 02:09:47 AM
I am Catholic with a capital C.
I forgot to smile.
:) :) :)
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Offline Nishant Xavier

Re: Describe Your Catholic Identity
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2019, 10:29:34 AM »
I checked "R&R" but I want to note so-called "R&R" is a Cekada-coined term that we non-sede traditionalists have somehow internalized. Archbishop Lefebvre never used it and I think a convenient acronym that more closely expresses +ABL's approach to this Church Crisis would be something like "RPWR - Recognize, Pray, Work for Restoration". That's what I believe in also. Certainly not one of the sede-whatevers.
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Offline Tallinn Trad

Re: Describe Your Catholic Identity
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2019, 02:59:40 PM »
I simply don't know.  And from what I can see nobody else knows either.  None of their arguments convince me.

Their fruits (or lack of them) certainly don't give me confidence that they have discovered the right answer and the true faith.

Not sure what the Latin term is for that.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Describe Your Catholic Identity
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2019, 06:17:57 PM »
Quote from: XavierSem on October 29, 2019, 10:29:34 AM
Certainly not one of the sede-whatevers.

So you're not a sede-plenist?
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Describe Your Catholic Identity
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2019, 06:20:43 PM »
Does it make sense to split off between neo-SSPX and Resistance?  They're becoming distinct flavors of R&R, just as sedeprivationism and sedevacantism have separated somewhat.  One group wants to work with the Counciliar establishment and seeks integration while the other remains firm as a "sign of contradiction".

By the way, after Archbishop Lefebvre wrote a letter to JP2 in 1979 seeking recognition within the Conciliar establishment, then-Father Guerard des Laurier wrote him a letter telling him that it was wrong to place the Tridentine Mass alongside the NOM, that Tradition must remain a sign of contradiction against the Novus Ordo.  In a sense, Father Guerard was the original Resistance member.
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