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Offline Meg

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Re: Denial from our new priest to Macabees on cor-mariae
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2017, 10:36:42 AM »
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  • - Bishop Adamson is a thuc-line coming from Bishop Christian Datessen. Father is not sedevacantist.
    - Father will go home early next year.

    The purpose of these responses is not to hurt anyone, but to explain what happened.
    Please pray for our new priest.  God bless him.

    Very glad to see that Father is not sedevacantist. That's a relief. 

    It is mentioned above that he will go home early next year, which isn't very long from now. Where is home, exactly? How is his last name pronounced? 

    I would think that this situation has been a bit stressful for him, but he seems to have persevered, in spite of obstacles. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Re: Denial from our new priest to Macabees on cor-mariae
    « Reply #16 on: November 13, 2017, 10:41:41 AM »
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  • Very glad to see that Father is not sedevacantist. That's a relief.

    It is mentioned above that he will go home early next year, which isn't very long from now. Where is home, exactly? How is his last name pronounced?

    I would think that this situation has been a bit stressful for him, but he seems to have persevered, in spite of obstacles.
    He is from Africa.


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    Re: Denial from our new priest to Macabees on cor-mariae
    « Reply #17 on: November 13, 2017, 10:45:22 AM »
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  • What a wasted clump of bandwidth.  This is all just another tempest in the neo-Traditional sectarian teapot, another chapter of heroes and villians..............

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    Re: Denial from our new priest to Macabees on cor-mariae
    « Reply #18 on: November 13, 2017, 10:48:07 AM »
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  • He is from Africa.

    Yes, I thought as much. He's probably African and has dark skin. Some trads are racist, and I hope that Father hasn't experienced a problem with racism, and that it hasn't been a factor. But one never knows. 

    Will he try to serve the faithful in Africa, do you know? 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Denial from our new priest to Macabees on cor-mariae
    « Reply #19 on: November 13, 2017, 11:02:32 AM »
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    The apoplexy shown by those here over the method of his ordination is dumb, and shows a total lack of ability to focus on the bigger issue that the "Resistance" has a new priest and ought to be celebrated.

    So, the "Resistance" has a new priest, does it?  This is a new priest who, apparently, received much of his training in KY.  Well then, thanks for the heads up.  I will avoid him like the plague should he come into our area, and I will advise other trads here to do likewise.

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    What a wasted clump of bandwidth.  This is all just another tempest in the neo-Traditional sectarian teapot, another chapter of heroes and villians..............
    Totally agree.  But then again, CI is loaded with wasted clumps of bandwidth. IMO, many trads major in chasing their own tails.


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    Re: Denial from our new priest to Macabees on cor-mariae
    « Reply #20 on: November 13, 2017, 11:22:09 AM »
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  • People aren't "bandwidth", not even the most egregious heretic rival of Luther.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Denial from our new priest to Macabees on cor-mariae
    « Reply #21 on: November 13, 2017, 11:41:50 AM »
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    People aren't "bandwidth", not even the most egregious heretic rival of Luther.

    Wow!  What a one-liner, full of essential wisdom. We'll copy it in large caps and put it on the refrigerator. :P

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    Re: Denial from our new priest to Macabees on cor-mariae
    « Reply #22 on: November 13, 2017, 11:54:05 AM »
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  • Wow!  What a one-liner, full of essential wisdom. We'll copy it in large caps and put it on the refrigerator.
    Fine, then you won't mind being considered a non-person if it comes down to being put down as such; agreed?
    "Lord, have mercy".


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    Re: Denial from our new priest to Macabees on cor-mariae
    « Reply #23 on: November 13, 2017, 11:56:10 AM »
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  • People aren't "bandwidth", not even the most egregious heretic rival of Luther.

    I can't believe that I actually agree with you....for once. 

     :o
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Denial from our new priest to Macabees on cor-mariae
    « Reply #24 on: November 13, 2017, 12:34:09 PM »
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  • I can't believe that I actually agree with you....for once.

     :o
    Me either. !

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    Re: Denial from our new priest to Macabees on cor-mariae
    « Reply #25 on: November 13, 2017, 01:45:56 PM »
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  • What a wasted clump of bandwidth.  
    This sentence perfectly sums up your existence. 
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    Re: Denial from our new priest to Macabees on cor-mariae
    « Reply #26 on: November 13, 2017, 05:41:02 PM »
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  • Getting back to the point of this thread and hoping for the end of certain posters acting like children (“wasted bandwidth”), one notes that the other forum doesn’t want to let this go:

    http://cor-mariae.com/index.php?threads/is-cathinfo-a-subversive-website.4984/page-2#post-12239


    “The dubious ordination of this expelled OLMC seminarian has brought to light several interesting facts. Both in truth and in spirit. And Cathinfo has devoted at least two threads over the last week to this particular ordination, once again leaving no opportunity to attack OLMC, unexplored. ....”

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    Re: Denial from our new priest to Macabees on cor-mariae
    « Reply #27 on: November 13, 2017, 10:16:06 PM »
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  • Getting back to the point of this thread and hoping for the end of certain posters acting like children (“wasted bandwidth”), one notes that the other forum doesn’t want to let this go:

    http://cor-mariae.com/index.php?threads/is-cathinfo-a-subversive-website.4984/page-2#post-12239


    “The dubious ordination of this expelled OLMC seminarian has brought to light several interesting facts. Both in truth and in spirit. And Cathinfo has devoted at least two threads over the last week to this particular ordination, once again leaving no opportunity to attack OLMC, unexplored. ....”
    Interestingly, the other site:
    1. Wont let anyone rebuke what they say
    2. Has question marks all over his post.
    It is clear the poster does not know what he is talking about.  

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    Re: Denial from our new priest to Macabees on cor-mariae
    « Reply #28 on: November 13, 2017, 10:36:20 PM »
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  • http://cor-mariae.com/index.php?threads/is-cathinfo-a-subversive-website.4984/page-2#post-12239

    Martius, shame.  All lies, and both priests at OLMC know it.  Shame.

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    Re: Denial from our new priest to Macabees on cor-mariae
    « Reply #29 on: November 14, 2017, 09:03:53 AM »
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  • Mr. Maccabees is free to continue what he is doing. Father has clarified only what is necessary, not the whole story. The whole truth is known to God, who knows all things and his conscience bears him witness, that: 
    1. Farher always told the priests of his intentions. There are reasons why he left when he did, mostly known to the priests, one being his family. 
    2. He never asked anyone for orders including the Bishop who ordained him nor made any form of pledge to anyone.
     3. He was ordained in accordance with the will and at the time the priest who took charge of him decided.

      - Maccabees appears to know father, but does not consider it important to listen to the other side, but rather makes an analysis precisely on the premise he denies; ie that father never sought orders by himself. This is untrue.
     - How can anyone ask to leave the seminary with the right to return ? Where does this happen ?
    - His decision to leave OLMC does not mean disobedience, nor him seeking anything. This is unfounded. He has his reasons which I'm sure Maccabees will not like to hear.
     The priest who made the decisions concerning father and did all the work in regard to his future knows all that. 
    On the contrary, father contacted Bp. Zendejas only after he left, who tried to help him find a solution to his situation. Finally, he decided to remain with the priest who took him in and was also willing to help him. This is the truth. 

    - He threatened no one, but saddened by the falsifications after months of suffering from what OLMC tried to do to him, he stated he would be obliged to give the full account of his stay at OLMC.

    Bishop Merrill Adamson, is a thuc line Bishop who was consecreted by Bishop José Urbina Anzar, who was consecrated by José Romon Lopez Gaston, himself a thuc bishop through Bishop Christian Datessen, consecrated conditionally by Archbishop Thuc.