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Offline Quo Vadis Petre

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« Reply #45 on: February 11, 2013, 12:41:22 PM »
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    • Priests have their faults. When I had Fr. Dardis in our chapel, from the faint impression I had of him, he was very friendly and preached very well. I'm loathe to listen to people giving vague accusations until I see for myself, and if the thing done wrong is public and a danger to the Resistance, then I would be obliged to report it.
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    Offline Telesphorus

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    « Reply #46 on: February 11, 2013, 01:10:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: Quo Vadis Petre
    Priests have their faults. When I had Fr. Dardis in our chapel, from the faint impression I had of him, he was very friendly and preached very well. I'm loathe to listen to people giving vague accusations until I see for myself, and if the thing done wrong is public and a danger to the Resistance, then I would be obliged to report it.


    Most people have two sides.

    He could be quite friendly at times, and quite off-putting at others.

    For example, I once greeted him after mass and he just stared at me, and didn't respond.

    Elizabeth was not pleased with him.

    He was a very good sermonizer, a sympathizer with Bishop Williamson.

    He would lead the rosary at the local abortion clinic on a regular basis.  Which had been one reason I started going to the clinic to pray on a weekly basis.  After he left there were very seldom many people from St. Pius X showing up to pray.

    I recall once a large negro with a big stick got into his face once, he continued on.

    He was friendly with me immediately after that incident, however, it had been difficult to get in touch with him.  He almost always left for Louisville right after mass.  Whether it was health problems, his departure was announced soon after.  People wondered where he had gone.  He had been priest there many years.

    Three devout sisters who ran the bookstore told me things had not been going well over the years, that the chapel was having problems.

    He seemed to some to be too closely inveigled with the big family that built the new chapel.
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    « Reply #47 on: February 11, 2013, 02:53:57 PM »
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    • In Bp. Williamson's lectures, he mentions the faithful's vital need for priests. His Lordship said essentially: "...The priest can be an SOB, but if he knows his doctrine and teaches it, this is what matters".

    Fr. Dardis has been through the neoSSPX administered "trad school of hard knocks". He covered two chapels alone, 140 miles apart, for approximately 5 years.

    The Walton priory, even with three priest,  can't match his diligence in supporting the Faithful with devotions and the Sacraments, needed and desired at both chapels.

    He is also most holy in his apostolate for going anywhere, at any time to provide the last Sacraments to the dying.

    In his priesthood, he sought to be a contemplative, so, he's naturally not the "charismatic pastor personality" some are hoping for.

    In any case, if you don't have anything "docuмented" on him... that you can turn into the police... shut your mouth.

    If, as you say,  Fr. Dardis has "problems", there's a high probability, the "Walton  clan", SSPX District headquarters and Menzingen are involved in it too.
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    « Reply #48 on: February 11, 2013, 03:06:46 PM »
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    If, as you say,  Fr. Dardis has "problems", there's a high probability, the "Walton  clan", SSPX District headquarters and Menzingen are involved in it too.[/color]


    Has the SSPX got a history of scandals like the NO? Coverups and moving priests around?
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    « Reply #49 on: February 11, 2013, 03:11:22 PM »
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    If, as you say,  Fr. Dardis has "problems", there's a high probability, the "Walton  clan", SSPX District headquarters and Menzingen are involved in it too.[/color]


    Has the SSPX got a history of scandals like the NO? Coverups and moving priests around?


    I'll forgive you this time for even asking that question, but the answer is a resounding NO.

    I attended their American seminary for 3 1/2 years, and I attended several of their Priest Meetings, including one conference on legal issues a priest might deal with -- kind of like "Lawyer stuff 101", because otherwise how will priests learn various things related to the law, lawsuits, liability, etc.?

    Anyhow, this conference was for Deacons on up ONLY; I was only permitted to hear the conference because A) I recorded it and B) I had to produce the CD/tape of that conference. But I was forbidden to sell it to those below 6th year.

    Anyhow, the conference covered various legal cases over the past 30 years, and what things priests have to look out for, how to protect themselves, etc.

    Again, my answer to your question, with my experience DEEP INSIDE the organization: NO, that has never been a problem in the SSPX.

    Unless you count the Society of St. John guys in the late 1990's, who were former Society members. But all the guys sympathetic to the St. John group left the Society.
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    « Reply #50 on: February 11, 2013, 03:16:14 PM »
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    • The Society moves priests around regularly, so the priests & faithful don't get too attached to each other. They don't want cults of personality to form.

    Also, sometimes a group of people just gets totally fed up with one priest -- maybe he spoke out against something dear to them (or dear to one of the chapel coordinators) -- but sometimes the SSPX just chalks it up to personality conflict and/or cantankerous Trads (you can't underestimate that one!) and hits the "reset" button.

    Remember, the SSPX is a missionary-type organization. They were never meant to replace your 1950's parish.
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    « Reply #51 on: February 11, 2013, 03:46:37 PM »
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    • Cantankerous trads..... mmmmm, if you were not cantankerous, you would be still 'happy clappy charismatic', or simply quiet conservative.... give me cantankerous anyday, the neo sspx have used cantankerous label to swipe away any questions of leadership in sspx... we in ireland know this very well... and we have'nt gone away.......
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    « Reply #52 on: April 12, 2013, 06:19:11 PM »
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    • Is this available in Portuguese?
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    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    « Reply #53 on: April 13, 2013, 05:24:44 AM »
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    « Reply #54 on: April 13, 2013, 10:42:59 AM »
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    • Muito obrigado.
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    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...
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