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  • My Lord and Dear Frs.,

    This declaration "Ut Fideles inveniamur"  of Jan. 29, 2013, written originally in Portuguese by Fr Tomas de Aquino at the suggestion of Fr Joaquim of  BFVM monastery of Fr Jahir in Salvador Brazil during a priest meeting held at the Mosteiro de Santa Cruz in Novo Friburgo, Brazil, having received the signatures of those present in Brazil and those unable to be present in person, is the work of 2 Portuguese monasteries that "have not lost the Dogma of the Faith." It was written of Jan 29 and agreed to be released publicly on this Feb. 2, 2013 from Quito, Ecuador to the World under the protection of Our Lady of Quito,

    in Christ,


    Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer
    Quito Ecuador February 2, 2013

    Jan 29 2013 Declaration Monastery of Santa Cruz Nova Friburgo Brazil




    DECLARATION MONASTERY OF SANTA CRUZ NOVA FRIBURGO BRAZIL PDF
    DECLARACIÓN ESPAÑOL PDF
    DECLARAÇÃO PORTUGUÊS PDF
    DÉCLARATION FRANÇAISPDF

    Available at:
    http://www.inthissignyoushallconquer.com/

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    « Reply #1 on: February 02, 2013, 12:45:28 AM »
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  • (Present in Brazil)
    Dom Tomas de Aquino, OSB (Brazil)
    Dom Jahir Britto, FBVM (Brazil)
    Fr. Ernesto Cardozo, FSSPX (Argentina)
    Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer, FSSPX (USA)
    Fr. David Hewko, FSSPX (USA)
    Fr. Joaquim Daniel Maria de Sant’Ana, FBVM (Brazil)
    Fr. Rene Trincado, FSSPX (Chile)

    (in Absentia)
    Bishop Richard Williamson, FSSPX (Great Britain)
    Fr. Jean Michel Faure, FSSPX (France)
    Fr Ronald Ringrose, (USA)
    Fr. Richard Voigt, SDB (USA)
    Fr. Juan Carlos Ortiz, FSSPX (Columbia)
    Fr. Brendan Dardis, (USA)
    Fr. Arturo Vargas, FSSPX (Mexico)
    Fr. Dominic Mary of the Pillar, OP (USA)
    Fr. Francois Chazal, FSSPX (France)

     :applause:
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...


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    « Reply #2 on: February 02, 2013, 12:54:40 AM »
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  • Mosteiro da Santa Cruz
    Nova Friburgo , RJ Brasil
    DECLARATION
    UT FIDELES INVENIAMUR

    29 January 2013
    St. Francis de Sales

    Following the example and teachings of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre as well as of Bishop Antonio de Castro Mayer:

    We hold fast, with all our heart and with all our soul, to Catholic Rome, Guardian of the Catholic faith and of the traditions necessary
    to preserve this faith, to Eternal Rome, Mistress of wisdom and truth. We refuse, on the other hand, and have always refused
    to follow the Rome of neo-Modernist and neo-Protestant tendencies which were clearly evident in the Second Vatican Council and,
    aft er the Council, in all the reforms which issued fr om it. (Archbishop Lefebvre Declaration November 21, 1974)


    These words of Archbishop Lefebvre defi ne our attitude towards the Conciliar Church that beatifi ed Pope John Paul
    II and declares that Pope Paul VI practiced heroic virtue. This Conciliar Church that renewed the scandal of Assisi and
    reaffi rms the teachings of Vatican II is wanting to insert them into the Tradition of the Church, disregarding the teachings,
    defi nitions, and condemnations of all the Popes before the Second Vatican Council. For this reason we make our own the
    demands made by Archbishop Lefebvre that would verify and constitute the return of Rome to Tradition:

    We do not have the same outlook on a reconciliation. Cardinal Ratzinger sees it as reducing us, bringing us back to Vatican II. We
    see it as a return of Rome to Tradition. We don’t agree; it is a dialogue of death. I can’t speak much of the future, mine is behind me,
    but if I live a little while, supposing that Rome calls for a renewed dialogue, then, I will put conditions. I shall not accept being in the
    position where I was put during the dialogue. No more. I will place the discussion at the doctrinal level: Do you agree with the great
    encyclicals of all the popes who preceded you? Do you agree with Quanta Cura of Pius IX, Immortale Dei and Libertas of Leo XIII,
    Pascendi Gregis of Pius X, Quas Primas of Pius XI, Humani Generis of Pius XII? Are you in full communion with these Popes and
    their teachings? Do you still accept the entire Anti-Modernist Oath? Are you in favor of the social reign of Our Lord Jesus Christ?
    If you do not accept the doctrine of your predecessors, it is useless to talk! As long as you do not accept the correction of the Council,
    in consideration of the doctrine of these Popes, your predecessors, no dialogue is possible. It is useless. Th e positions will then be made
    more clear. (Mgr. Lefebvre, Fideliter, No. 66, November-December 1988, pp. 12-13).


    Therefore, recalling the words of Archbishop Lefebvre, “without any spirit of rebellion, bitterness or resentment,” we
    intend to continue our work for the defense of Tradition using all the means that Providence allows, working for the salvation
    of souls, in forming candidates for the Priesthood, forming Religious, maintaining Catholic schools, helping Catholic
    families and working for the return of society to submit to the sweet yoke of Our Lord Jesus Christ, the King of all nations
    and the universe.

    We appeal to all those who share the same ideal to unite with us, so that the movement going toward a disastrous submission
    to Modernist Rome may not prevail in the bosom of Tradition. This direction toward Modernist Rome has been
    clearly manifested in the letters, declarations, and other documents from the actual superiors of the Society of St. Pius X
    in recent months.

    With the Grace of God and the help of the Virgin Mary, St. Joseph and St. Pius X, we determine to remain faithful to
    the Roman Catholic Church and all the successors of St. Peter as well as Archbishop Lefebvre, in order to continue to be
    “faithful dispensors of the Mysteries of Our Lord Jesus Christ, in the Holy Ghost. Amen.” (I Cor. 4:1 et seq.)

    (Present in Brazil)
    Dom Tomas de Aquino, OSB (Brazil)
    Dom Jahir Britto, FBVM (Brazil)
    Fr. Ernesto Cardozo, FSSPX (Argentina)
    Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer, FSSPX (USA)
    Fr. David Hewko, FSSPX (USA)
    Fr. Joaquim Daniel Maria de Sant’Ana, FBVM (Brazil)
    Fr. Rene Trincado, FSSPX (Chile)

    (in Absentia)
    Bishop Richard Williamson, FSSPX (Great Britain)
    Fr. Jean Michel Faure, FSSPX (France)
    Fr Ronald Ringrose, (USA)
    Fr. Richard Voigt, SDB (USA)
    Fr. Juan Carlos Ortiz, FSSPX (Columbia)
    Fr. Brendan Dardis, (USA)
    Fr. Arturo Vargas, FSSPX (Mexico)
    Fr. Dominic Mary of the Pillar, OP (USA)
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...

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    « Reply #3 on: February 02, 2013, 01:29:43 AM »
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  • Wow. Awesome. :applause:

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    « Reply #4 on: February 02, 2013, 01:34:18 AM »
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  • Wow -- a new priest's name on the list!

    See if you can figure out who.  :scratchchin:
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    « Reply #5 on: February 02, 2013, 01:43:59 AM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    Wow -- a new priest's name on the list!

    See if you can figure out who.  :scratchchin:


    Is it Fr. Brendan Dardis? I don't think I have read that name before.

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    « Reply #6 on: February 02, 2013, 04:28:20 AM »
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  • May Our Lady bless them and protect them.

    I suggest an extra decade today, feast of the Presentation, for these valiant priests and for the SSPX.

     :pray:
    O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
    Praised be Jesus ad Mary!

    "Is minic a gheibhean beal oscailt diog dunta"

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    « Reply #7 on: February 02, 2013, 06:11:46 AM »
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  • I am not familiar with two names:
    Fr. Brendan Dardis, (USA)
     Fr. Dominic Mary of the Pillar, OP (USA)


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    « Reply #8 on: February 02, 2013, 06:48:04 AM »
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  • Quote from: MaterDominici
    Mosteiro da Santa Cruz
    Nova Friburgo , RJ Brasil
    DECLARATION
    UT FIDELES INVENIAMUR

    29 January 2013
    St. Francis de Sales

    Following the example and teachings of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre as well as of Bishop Antonio de Castro Mayer:

    We hold fast, with all our heart and with all our soul, to Catholic Rome, Guardian of the Catholic faith and of the traditions necessary
    to preserve this faith, to Eternal Rome, Mistress of wisdom and truth. We refuse, on the other hand, and have always refused
    to follow the Rome of neo-Modernist and neo-Protestant tendencies which were clearly evident in the Second Vatican Council and,
    aft er the Council, in all the reforms which issued fr om it. (Archbishop Lefebvre Declaration November 21, 1974)


    These words of Archbishop Lefebvre defi ne our attitude towards the Conciliar Church that beatifi ed Pope John Paul
    II and declares that Pope Paul VI practiced heroic virtue. This Conciliar Church that renewed the scandal of Assisi and
    reaffi rms the teachings of Vatican II is wanting to insert them into the Tradition of the Church, disregarding the teachings,
    defi nitions, and condemnations of all the Popes before the Second Vatican Council. For this reason we make our own the
    demands made by Archbishop Lefebvre that would verify and constitute the return of Rome to Tradition:

    We do not have the same outlook on a reconciliation. Cardinal Ratzinger sees it as reducing us, bringing us back to Vatican II. We
    see it as a return of Rome to Tradition. We don’t agree; it is a dialogue of death. I can’t speak much of the future, mine is behind me,
    but if I live a little while, supposing that Rome calls for a renewed dialogue, then, I will put conditions. I shall not accept being in the
    position where I was put during the dialogue. No more. I will place the discussion at the doctrinal level: Do you agree with the great
    encyclicals of all the popes who preceded you? Do you agree with Quanta Cura of Pius IX, Immortale Dei and Libertas of Leo XIII,
    Pascendi Gregis of Pius X, Quas Primas of Pius XI, Humani Generis of Pius XII? Are you in full communion with these Popes and
    their teachings? Do you still accept the entire Anti-Modernist Oath? Are you in favor of the social reign of Our Lord Jesus Christ?
    If you do not accept the doctrine of your predecessors, it is useless to talk! As long as you do not accept the correction of the Council,
    in consideration of the doctrine of these Popes, your predecessors, no dialogue is possible. It is useless. Th e positions will then be made
    more clear. (Mgr. Lefebvre, Fideliter, No. 66, November-December 1988, pp. 12-13).


    Therefore, recalling the words of Archbishop Lefebvre, “without any spirit of rebellion, bitterness or resentment,” we
    intend to continue our work for the defense of Tradition using all the means that Providence allows, working for the salvation
    of souls, in forming candidates for the Priesthood, forming Religious, maintaining Catholic schools, helping Catholic
    families and working for the return of society to submit to the sweet yoke of Our Lord Jesus Christ, the King of all nations
    and the universe.

    We appeal to all those who share the same ideal to unite with us, so that the movement going toward a disastrous submission
    to Modernist Rome may not prevail in the bosom of Tradition. This direction toward Modernist Rome has been
    clearly manifested in the letters, declarations, and other documents from the actual superiors of the Society of St. Pius X
    in recent months.

    With the Grace of God and the help of the Virgin Mary, St. Joseph and St. Pius X, we determine to remain faithful to
    the Roman Catholic Church and all the successors of St. Peter as well as Archbishop Lefebvre, in order to continue to be
    “faithful dispensors of the Mysteries of Our Lord Jesus Christ, in the Holy Ghost. Amen.” (I Cor. 4:1 et seq.)

    (Present in Brazil)
    Dom Tomas de Aquino, OSB (Brazil)
    Dom Jahir Britto, FBVM (Brazil)
    Fr. Ernesto Cardozo, FSSPX (Argentina)
    Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer, FSSPX (USA)
    Fr. David Hewko, FSSPX (USA)
    Fr. Joaquim Daniel Maria de Sant’Ana, FBVM (Brazil)
    Fr. Rene Trincado, FSSPX (Chile)

    (in Absentia)
    Bishop Richard Williamson, FSSPX (Great Britain)
    Fr. Jean Michel Faure, FSSPX (France)
    Fr Ronald Ringrose, (USA)
    Fr. Richard Voigt, SDB (USA)
    Fr. Juan Carlos Ortiz, FSSPX (Columbia)
    Fr. Brendan Dardis, (USA)
    Fr. Arturo Vargas, FSSPX (Mexico)
    Fr. Dominic Mary of the Pillar, OP (USA)


    Now this is what I was asking for on the other thread - a statement of principles - this is exactly what was needed - short, pithy, precise... EXCELLENT !

    In leaving aside the question of consecration it gets to the heart of the matter of forming priestly candidates while they already have a bishop.

    Now's the time for other priests from the SSPX to commit to the fight - now there is an international dimension to the equation.

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    « Reply #11 on: February 02, 2013, 05:02:18 PM »
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  • I saw this and thought it might be nice to have a copy on this thread since
    the other one got locked and you know, months later it might be next to
    impossible to find it.  I made the size a little bigger too.


    OP from the closed thread (by InDominoSperavi):  


    DECLARATION
    UT FIDELIS INVENIAMUR

    Following the example and teachings of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre as well as of Bishop Antonio de Castro Mayer:

    We hold fast, with all our heart and with all our soul, to Catholic Rome, Guardian of the Catholic faith and of the traditions necessary to preserve this faith, to Eternal Rome, Mistress of wisdom and truth. We refuse, on the other hand, and have always refused to follow the Rome of neo-Modernist and neo-Protestant tendencies which were clearly evident in the Second Vatican Council and, aft er the Council, in all the reforms which issued fr om it. (Archbishop Lefebvre Declaration November 21, 1974)

    These words of Archbishop Lefebvre define our attitude towards the Conciliar Church that beatifi ed Pope John Paul II and declares that Pope Paul VI practiced heroic virtue. This Conciliar Church that renewed the scandal of Assisi and reaffirms the teachings of Vatican II is wanting to insert them into the Tradition of the Church, disregarding the teachings, definitions, and condemnations of all the Popes before the Second Vatican Council. For this reason we make our own the demands made by Archbishop Lefebvre that would verify and constitute the return of Rome to Tradition:

    We do not have the same outlook on a reconciliation. Cardinal Ratzinger sees it as reducing us, bringing us back to Vatican II. We see it as a return of Rome to Tradition. We don’t agree; it is a dialogue of death. I can’t speak much of the future, mine is behind me, but if I live a little while, supposing that Rome calls for a renewed dialogue, then, I will put conditions. I shall not accept being in the position where I was put during the dialogue. No more. I will place the discussion at the doctrinal level: Do you agree with the great encyclicals of all the popes who preceded you? Do you agree with Quanta Cura of Pius IX, Immortale Dei and Libertas of Leo XIII, Pascendi Gregis of Pius X, Quas Primas of Pius XI, Humani Generis of Pius XII? Are you in full communion with these Popes and their teachings? Do you still accept the entire Anti-Modernist Oath? Are you in favor of the social reign of Our Lord Jesus Christ? If you do not accept the doctrine of your predecessors, it is useless to talk! As long as you do not accept the correction of the Council, in consideration of the doctrine of these Popes, your predecessors, no dialogue is possible. It is useless. Th e positions will then be made more clear. (Mgr. Lefebvre, Fideliter, No. 66, November-December 1988, pp. 12-13).

    Therefore, recalling the words of Archbishop Lefebvre, “without any spirit of rebellion, bitterness or resentment,” we intend to continue our work for the defense of Tradition using all the means that Providence allows, working for the salvation of souls, in forming candidates for the Priesthood, forming Religious, maintaining Catholic schools, helping Catholic families and working for the return of society to submit to the sweet yoke of Our Lord Jesus Christ, the King of all nations and the universe.

    We appeal to all those who share the same ideal to unite with us, so that the movement going toward a disastrous submission to Modernist Rome may not prevail in the bosom of Tradition. This direction toward Modernist Rome has been clearly manifested in the letters, declarations, and other documents from the actual superiors of the Society of St. Pius X in recent months.

    With the Grace of God and the help of the Virgin Mary, St. Joseph and St. Pius X, we determine to remain faithful to the Roman Catholic Church and all the successors of St. Peter as well as Archbishop Lefebvre, in order to continue to be “faithful dispensors of the Mysteries of Our Lord Jesus Christ, in the Holy Ghost. Amen.” (I Cor. 4:1 et seq.)

    29 January 2013
    St. Francis de Sales

    (Present in Brazil)
    Dom Tomas de Aquino, OSB (Brazil)
    Dom Jahir Britto, FBVM (Brazil)
    Fr. Ernesto Cardozo, FSSPX (Argentina)
    Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer, FSSPX (USA)
    Fr. David Hewko, FSSPX (USA)
    Fr. Joaquim Daniel Maria de Sant’Ana, FBVM (Brazil)
    Fr. Rene Trincado, FSSPX (Chile)

    (in Absentia)
    Bishop Richard Williamson, FSSPX (Great Britain)
    Fr. Jean Michel Faure, FSSPX (France)
    Fr Ronald Ringrose, (USA)
    Fr. Richard Voigt, SDB (USA)
    Fr. Juan Carlos Ortiz, FSSPX (Columbia)
    Fr. Brendan Dardis, (USA)
    Fr. Arturo Vargas, FSSPX (Mexico)
    Fr. Dominic Mary of the Pillar, OP (USA)
    Fr. Francois Chazal, FSSPX (France)

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    « Reply #12 on: February 02, 2013, 05:20:14 PM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
    I saw this and thought it might be nice to have a copy on this thread since
    the other one got locked and you know, months later it might be next to
    impossible to find it.  I made the size a little bigger too.


    Isn't this the same thing as on page 1 of this thread?    :confused1:

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    « Reply #13 on: February 02, 2013, 05:30:49 PM »
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    Wow -- a new priest's name on the list!

    See if you can figure out who.  :scratchchin:


    Is it Fr. Brendan Dardis? I don't think I have read that name before.


    I don't recall seeing him either.

    I really missed him when he was transferred out of Cincinnati / Louisville! He was one of the good ones! Deo Gratias!
    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man." - Fr. Hesse

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    Father Faure is a new priest
    http://aveclimmaculee.blogspot.fr/2013/02/qui-est-labbe-jean-michel-faure.html

    http://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Faveclimmaculee.blogspot.fr/2013/02/qui-est-labbe-jean-michel-faure.html



    May I presume no relation to the famous composer Gabriel Fauré?



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    The Fauré Requiem is a showcase work that has been used by modern artists
    as a backdrop for Newchurch.  IMHO it's a little unfortunate it has this association,
    because it is a great work of music.  HOWEVER,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    There is a lot more to liturgical music than its objective beauty.  

    I spoke to a well-known traditional convert about this over the phone years ago.
    He has since passed away:  author Michael Malone, RIP.  

    Mr. Malone told me something that is too often forgotten.  When a Protestant
    convert goes to Mass and he hears a beautiful rendition of something, let's say,
    A Mighty Fortress Is Our God, or Amazing Grace, regardless of how beautiful
    the music is, it evokes in the listener recollection of all the heresies he left
    behind when he converted, by association.  There may be no objective heresy
    in the words of the songs, and there may be nothing demonic or anti-Catholic
    per se in the musical intervals, chords or structure.

    The problem is, that the person hearing the music is reminded of the erroneous
    doctrine that he had been subject to prior to his conversion.  


    And this is exactly the kind of thing that the current Pope is
    encouraging with his false ecumenism and hermeneutic of
    continuity nonsense.  



    This has nothing to do with Fr. Jean-Michel Faure.  

    But it curiously is linked to what happened in my mind when I saw his name.
    The name, Faure, evoked all this stuff.  



    I do hope that Fr. Faure is able to cope with the effect that his
    name will evoke, in many converts from Newchurch into the
    Traditional Catholic Church.





    One of the "problems" with the Fauré Requiem is that it omits the Dies Irae,
    and it does this for unidentified reasons, however, in retrospect it would seem
    likely that the composer wanted to distance his own composition from the
    traditional sense of "doom and gloom" and direct it toward a more "glorious and
    hopeful" future.  You know, the 'new springtime of Vatican II," even though he was
    many decades in anticipation of Vatican II.  

    The Fauré Requiem was first performed in 1893, but not in the USA until 1931 nor
    in England until 1936.  Its popularity has grown over the years.

    As an intellectual aside, it is entirely possible for someone to compose an
    amendment or addition to the Fauré Requiem, consisting of a Dies Irae that
    fits the style of the larger work.  That might be a challenging project for any
    music major in Composition.  But even if a Dies Irae is added, there remains
    the inescapable association the rest of the work has with Newchurch.
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