Thank you for bringing this to us! :cowboy:
Only three out of 568 SSPX priests are present in this historic meeting!!
Other two priests are independent pro SSPX.
Maybe these three SSPX priests would become independent by the wrath of Bishop Fellay soon.
Three in United States, One in Europe, One in Asia. Thank you so much God for this extremely rare precious preists!
I myself, catholic faithful feel like standing on the Cliff. I'm very disappointed with SSPX.
Two Inds
https://sites.google.com/site/stjohnboscochapel/our-pastors
http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php?topic=3425361.0
Fr. H
http://op54rosary.ning.com/forum/topics/farewell-fr-david-hewko?xg_source=activity
Only three out of 568 SSPX priests are present in this historic meeting!!
Other two priests are independent pro SSPX.
Maybe these three SSPX priests would become independent by the wrath of Bishop Fellay soon.
Three in United States, One in Europe, One in Asia. Thank you so much God for this extremely rare precious preists!
I myself, catholic faithful feel like standing on the Cliff. I'm very disappointed with SSPX.
Two Inds
https://sites.google.com/site/stjohnboscochapel/our-pastors
http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php?topic=3425361.0
Fr. H
http://op54rosary.ning.com/forum/topics/farewell-fr-david-hewko?xg_source=activity
Is this supposed to be serious? So now Our Lady has directly intervened in the whole SSPX-Rome drama? Who did Our Lady appear to?It was emailed to a priest who emailed it to me. I was wondering if you had seen it. I will contact him for more information and post it tomorrow.
What is the source of this, Marie?
I am very skeptical of this and I believe firmly in the message of Fatima and the approved apparitions of the 20th century.
Quote from: obscurusIs this supposed to be serious? So now Our Lady has directly intervened in the whole SSPX-Rome drama? Who did Our Lady appear to?It was emailed to a priest who emailed it to me. I was wondering if you had seen it. I will contact him for more information and post it tomorrow.
What is the source of this, Marie?
I am very skeptical of this and I believe firmly in the message of Fatima and the approved apparitions of the 20th century.
Only three out of 568 SSPX priests are present in this historic meeting!!
Other two priests are independent pro SSPX.
Maybe these three SSPX priests would become independent by the wrath of Bishop Fellay soon.
Three in United States, One in Europe, One in Asia.........
Quote from: Lucca BackOnly three out of 568 SSPX priests are present in this historic meeting!!
Other two priests are independent pro SSPX.
Maybe these three SSPX priests would become independent by the wrath of Bishop Fellay soon.
Three in United States, One in Europe, One in Asia.........
"One in Asia" . Are not both Frs Chazal and Joseph Pfeiffer assigned to Asia District?. The other priests in the district don't seem to be aware of the up to date situation. Or else they are not saying!
Quote from: FranciscoQuote from: Lucca BackOnly three out of 568 SSPX priests are present in this historic meeting!!
Other two priests are independent pro SSPX.
Maybe these three SSPX priests would become independent by the wrath of Bishop Fellay soon.
Three in United States, One in Europe, One in Asia.........
"One in Asia" . Are not both Frs Chazal and Joseph Pfeiffer assigned to Asia District?. The other priests in the district don't seem to be aware of the up to date situation. Or else they are not saying!
Yes, you're right. Two in Asia.
But these two will not stay in Asia, I think. Maybe Fr. Chazal will stay in Asia after being kicked out from SSPX.
Only three out of 568 SSPX priests are present in this historic meeting!!
Other two priests are independent pro SSPX.
Maybe these three SSPX priests would become independent by the wrath of Bishop Fellay soon.
Three in United States, One in Europe, One in Asia. Thank you so much God for this extremely rare precious preists!
I myself, catholic faithful feel like standing on the Cliff. I'm very disappointed with SSPX.
Two Inds
https://sites.google.com/site/stjohnboscochapel/our-pastors
http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php?topic=3425361.0
Fr. H
http://op54rosary.ning.com/forum/topics/farewell-fr-david-hewko?xg_source=activity
Marie, "OBSCURUS" does a lot of moaning. This person is apparently on the forums to oppose whatever good they can find. :cussing:
Marie, "OBSCURUS" does a lot of moaning. This person is apparently on the forums to oppose whatever good they can find. :cussing:
My remark about OBSCURUS may be an over reaction. I probably shouldnt spend so much time on these forums....ever find yourself rushing to the computer to see what others may say against you? I was guilty of that this morning!!!
Quote from: sspxbvmMarie, "OBSCURUS" does a lot of moaning. This person is apparently on the forums to oppose whatever good they can find. :cussing:
Wow, are you for real? You must be very young and immature because YOU are the one doing all the moaning. Good grief... some people are unbelievable.
From 20 down to 5??? Matthew, I need more emoticons! I have no words. But...
I know what the 500 plus are saying while they're hiding in their priories: "Nothing's signed! This will blow over. You'll see." as they sit around while these 3 SSPX priests will receive the last blow from the "Iron Fists of Menzingen".
I better not hear any of the 500+ priests preach on Good Friday how cowardly the disciples were, blah, blah, blah, coz uh Father: where were you on August 10 during the meeting in Vienna, Va?
Folks: from now on, during Sunday sermons, just switch on your recorders so you get the sermon on record. The hypocrisy stinks from here to eternity!
I thought Dawn Marie had something to do with this site.
Before the info was deleted, Nemmersdorf had posted info from Bishop Williamson denying knowing anything about this. Then PetrusTOP posted correspondence that was supposed to be between Bishop Williamson and the 'seer'.
Quote from: NeelyAnnBefore the info was deleted, Nemmersdorf had posted info from Bishop Williamson denying knowing anything about this. Then PetrusTOP posted correspondence that was supposed to be between Bishop Williamson and the 'seer'.
I don't know "PetrusTOP" but I know that Nemmersdorf is a solid source, for example when it comes to quotes from Bishop Williamson. So when Nemmersdorf quotes Bishop Williamson saying he doesn't know about this private revelation, then the Bishop doesn't know about it.
Dear Nemmersdorf, since you also read Cathinfo and we Cathinfo users didn't see your posts on the liberal Ignis Ardens forum, could you please re-post your information from our good Bishop Williamson about this private revelation here on Cathinfo? Thank you in andvance!
Not sure who thumbed down this post but...
Could someone make a new thread for this? I have some questions and Ethelred is right this is not the topic to discuss it.
Quote from: KyrieEleisonNot sure who thumbed down this post but...
Not me for sure. :-)
+“ONLY SHE CAN HELP YOU”+
Vienna, Virginia, 10th August 2012 Priest Meeting
TODAY'S SITUATION
1. The Society of St. Pius X declaration of July 14th, 2012, while proclaiming the notion of the Divinity of Christ and His Kingship, actually moves in the opposite direction by using ambiguous language and by preparing to place the SSPX under the authorities of “the Rome of neo-Modernist and neo-Protestant tendencies.” (1974 Declaration)
2. There has been a longtime slide in the SSPX towards Vatican II and a growing silence about Novus Ordo scandals against the Faith.
3. There is an illusion that one can join the Vatican II Church without accepting Vatican II.
4. There is a need to assure souls that the combat for Catholic Tradition, maintained by Archbishop Lefebvre against Modernist Rome, will continue.
5. A new attitude favoring compromise has infected the leadership of the SSPX.
6. This new attitude now prevails in publications, websites, seminaries and pulpits.
7. The priests who resist this new attitude are being punished or threatened with punishment and in all cases are being silenced. The present crisis demands a public response of priests and faithful against this compromise with Modernist Rome.
8. Many priests are personally disillusioned with Menzingen for doctrinal reasons but are unsure, cowed or do not know what to do.
9. Many independent priests trust the SSPX less and less. They hope to pass on their parishes to doctrinally reliable priests.
10. There is a replacement of the original Fatima solution, which is the consecration of Russia by the pope united with the bishops, by a belief that the SSPX can negotiate Modernist Rome back to the Catholic Faith.
11. The imprudent and reckless willingness to agree to a “suitable condition” of abandoning the flock to the “wolves” of the diocesan bishops.
DECLARATION
The heart of the Faith is the Divinity of Christ and his Kingship over all nations: “Oportet illum regnare”. The errors of Vatican II are an indirect attack against his Divinity and a direct attack on his Social Kingship. They will forever remain the Revolution of 1789 within the Church.
Today's Vatican has only changed for the worse since the Council (more damage, more new heresies, more effective semi-modernism), to such an extent that we can repeat the Archbishop's words of 1974 and 1976: “The Church that affirms such errors is at once schismatic and heretical. This Conciliar Church is therefore not Catholic. To whatever extent Pope, bishops, priests or faithful adhere to this new Church, they separate themselves from the Catholic Church.” (June 29, 1976)
The Pope has allowed the True Mass, but only within the Pantheon of modernist liturgies. Further, he has made clear his espousing of the false doctrine of Religious Liberty by preaching it to be the model of how the Church and State are to relate one to another. Lastly the doctrine of Ecuмenism has been widely and consistently professed by the Pontiff in his visits to protestant temples, ѕуηαgσgυєs and mosques and Assisi III confirms that the spirit of Assisi is alive and well. It was this spirit that moved the Archbishop to undertake an “Operation Survival”, that is now itself in great peril.
Today's SSPX clearly wants to place itself under this Conciliar Church, mitigates the poison of Vatican II, is more and more silent in face of the abuses by the conciliar hierarchy, uses ambiguous language referring to two opposite Magisteria. At the same time that it is ever ready to believe in a constant debate with obdurate Roman officials, it uses strong arm tactics toward those standing against wicked reconciliation.
We must wait for Our Lady to convert the Pope and inspire him to consecrate Russia to her Immaculate Heart in union with all the bishops and we must persevere in the Charity of the Truth and the Truth of Charity, organized in a united corps of priests faithful to the position always maintained by Archbishop Lefebvre.
Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer, Fr. Ronald J. Ringrose, Fr. Richard Voigt, Fr. David Hewko, Fr. François Chazal
Wasn't this supposed to be the meeting where +Williamson would be present?
Only three out of 568 SSPX priests are present in this historic meeting!!
Other two priests are independent pro SSPX.
Maybe these three SSPX priests would become independent by the wrath of Bishop Fellay soon.
Three in United States, One in Europe, One in Asia. Thank you so much God for this extremely rare precious preists!
I myself, catholic faithful feel like standing on the Cliff. I'm very disappointed with SSPX.
Two Inds
https://sites.google.com/site/stjohnboscochapel/our-pastors
http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php?topic=3425361.0
Fr. H
http://op54rosary.ning.com/forum/topics/farewell-fr-david-hewko?xg_source=activity
Someone close to Fr. Hewko told me on Sunday that he was being transferred to
Chicago, to the monastery where Bishop de Mallerais is stationed now. So
apparently that is now obsolete information?
I just downloaded a bulletin from BVM in Syracuse.
Fr. Hewko is indeed leaving. His replacement as assistant pastor is Fr. Patrick Mackin who is coming from Walton, KY.
Does anyone know anything about this priest? The bulletin says he was ordained in 2010??? A brand new, wet behind the ears priest is replacing the holy priest Fr. Hewko as assistant pastor?
What in the world? I don't think I am liking this anymore....
I've heard where Fr Hewko is going but I'm curious if anyone knows if it's public knowledge yet? I'd hate to be starting rumors...but maybe it's already said in a thread I haven't seen.
This whole apparition thing is a dead end street in my view. We have here the kernel of an important and very active resistance beginning against the Fellay sellout of the SSPX and I am frankly shocked at the amount of space on this thread that is spent naval-gazing on whether or not there is some sort of mystical apparition to guide us.
I tell you what there is to guide us: the intellect that our Lord had given us to fight for His Church. Our prayers to be sure, our financial support of those priests who risk it all to be able to continue helping us save our souls. But our intellect and our resourcefulness to each find our OWN way to join this resistance.
Apparition? Come on. If there is something significant it will most surely become known to us. In the meantime what would Our Lady say to us sitting around pondering rumors while brave priests are calling together the troops to fight for our Faith?????
Quote from: wallflowerI've heard where Fr Hewko is going but I'm curious if anyone knows if it's public knowledge yet? I'd hate to be starting rumors...but maybe it's already said in a thread I haven't seen.
It was said elsewhere that Fr Pfeiffer mentioned it in his last sermon, but I've not listened to it to see exactly what he said.
Quote from: CathMomof7I just downloaded a bulletin from BVM in Syracuse.
Fr. Hewko is indeed leaving. His replacement as assistant pastor is Fr. Patrick Mackin who is coming from Walton, KY.
Does anyone know anything about this priest? The bulletin says he was ordained in 2010??? A brand new, wet behind the ears priest is replacing the holy priest Fr. Hewko as assistant pastor?
What in the world? I don't think I am liking this anymore....
He's very upbeat and well liked, especially by the youth.
Since he's recently ordained, I suspect he's been programmed to be
a "Yankee" (pro-prelature).
Quote from: MaterDominiciQuote from: wallflowerI've heard where Fr Hewko is going but I'm curious if anyone knows if it's public knowledge yet? I'd hate to be starting rumors...but maybe it's already said in a thread I haven't seen.
It was said elsewhere that Fr Pfeiffer mentioned it in his last sermon, but I've not listened to it to see exactly what he said.
Yes, in his latest sermon (from Sunday (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Sermon-August-12th-2012)) the brave Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer states that the Family Pfeiffer ranch -- which now could well be called Marcel Lefebvre Ranch (*) -- will be the new homestead of four of the five signing priests. From this base they're going to travel to the faithful who ask for them :
- Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer
- Fr. François Chazal
- Fr. David Hewko
- Fr. Richard Voigt
So including Fr. Hewko. Smart move! So he can't be transferred for disciplinary reasons by the conciliar Fr Rostand anymore because he already moved.
The fifth signing priest, the independent Fr. Ronald Ringrose will continue to look after his -- independent? -- chapel St. Athanasius in US-Vienna.
Quote from: MaterDominiciQuote from: wallflowerI've heard where Fr Hewko is going but I'm curious if anyone knows if it's public knowledge yet? I'd hate to be starting rumors...but maybe it's already said in a thread I haven't seen.
It was said elsewhere that Fr Pfeiffer mentioned it in his last sermon, but I've not listened to it to see exactly what he said.
Yes, in his latest sermon (from Sunday (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Sermon-August-12th-2012)) the brave Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer states that the Family Pfeiffer ranch -- which now could well be called Marcel Lefebvre Ranch (*) -- will be the new homestead of four of the five signing priests. From this base they're going to travel to the faithful who ask for them :
- Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer
- Fr. François Chazal
- Fr. David Hewko
- Fr. Richard Voigt
So including Fr. Hewko. Smart move! So he can't be transferred for disciplinary reasons by the conciliar Fr Rostand anymore because he already moved.
The fifth signing priest, the independent Fr. Ronald Ringrose will continue to look after his -- independent? -- chapel St. Athanasius in US-Vienna.
I think the Marcel Lefebvre Ranch is great news. They expected many more priests to join the active resistance, but five is a pretty good number for the short time before the Chastisement.
Christus vincit, Christus regnat, Christus imperat!
(*) When the very brave Austrian Fr. Florian Abrahamowicz was kicked out of the Neo-SSPX some years ago for having publicly supported Bishop Williamson after his brave Sweden TV interview, and for having publicly criticised Bp Fellay for his pro-Newrome route, the Father founded a new chapel in North Italy which was still part of the Austrian Empire when St. Pius X. was born there. The name of the new chapel is: Domus Marcel Lefebvre.
P.S. Could you guys please move your private-revelation-talk to the thread which I created especially for it some days ago in order to keep this important thread on-topic? Here it is and I mentioned it twice some posts before your posts: http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Rosary-crusade-for-the-Consecration-of-Russia
Quote from: EthelredQuote from: MaterDominiciQuote from: wallflowerI've heard where Fr Hewko is going but I'm curious if anyone knows if it's public knowledge yet? I'd hate to be starting rumors...but maybe it's already said in a thread I haven't seen.
It was said elsewhere that Fr Pfeiffer mentioned it in his last sermon, but I've not listened to it to see exactly what he said.
Yes, in his latest sermon (from Sunday (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Sermon-August-12th-2012)) the brave Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer states that the Family Pfeiffer ranch -- which now could well be called Marcel Lefebvre Ranch (*) -- will be the new homestead of four of the five signing priests. From this base they're going to travel to the faithful who ask for them :
- Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer
- Fr. François Chazal
- Fr. David Hewko
- Fr. Richard Voigt
So including Fr. Hewko. Smart move! So he can't be transferred for disciplinary reasons by the conciliar Fr Rostand anymore because he already moved.
The fifth signing priest, the independent Fr. Ronald Ringrose will continue to look after his -- independent? -- chapel St. Athanasius in US-Vienna.
I think the Marcel Lefebvre Ranch is great news. They expected many more priests to join the active resistance, but five is a pretty good number for the short time before the Chastisement.
Christus vincit, Christus regnat, Christus imperat!
(*) When the very brave Austrian Fr. Florian Abrahamowicz was kicked out of the Neo-SSPX some years ago for having publicly supported Bishop Williamson after his brave Sweden TV interview, and for having publicly criticised Bp Fellay for his pro-Newrome route, the Father founded a new chapel in North Italy which was still part of the Austrian Empire when St. Pius X. was born there. The name of the new chapel is: Domus Marcel Lefebvre.
P.S. Could you guys please move your private-revelation-talk to the thread which I created especially for it some days ago in order to keep this important thread on-topic? Here it is and I mentioned it twice some posts before your posts: http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Rosary-crusade-for-the-Consecration-of-Russia
Hope these priests will consider discarding the 1962 Missal which will only keep them tied to the Modernists in Rome in that they will be obliged to consider any future changes to this missal mandated by this same rome.
Quote from: Ethelred...
Yes, in his latest sermon (from Sunday (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Sermon-August-12th-2012)) the brave Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer states that the Family Pfeiffer ranch -- which now could well be called Marcel Lefebvre Ranch (*) -- will be the new homestead of four of the five signing priests. From this base they're going to travel to the faithful who ask for them :
- Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer
- Fr. François Chazal
- Fr. David Hewko
- Fr. Richard Voigt
So including Fr. Hewko. Smart move! So he can't be transferred for disciplinary reasons by the conciliar Fr Rostand anymore because he already moved.
The fifth signing priest, the independent Fr. Ronald Ringrose will continue to look after his -- independent? -- chapel St. Athanasius in US-Vienna.
Ok that's more up-to-date than what I knew. A few weeks back he had told a friend, who told us -- so it was secondhand -- that he was going to Chicago.
Quote from: wallflowerQuote from: Ethelred...
Yes, in his latest sermon (from Sunday (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Sermon-August-12th-2012)) the brave Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer states that the Family Pfeiffer ranch -- -- will be the new homestead of four of the five signing priests. From this base they're going to travel to the faithful who ask for them :
- Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer
- Fr. François Chazal
- Fr. David Hewko
- Fr. Richard Voigt
So including Fr. Hewko. Smart move! So he can't be transferred for disciplinary reasons by the conciliar Fr Rostand anymore because he already moved.
The fifth signing priest, the independent Fr. Ronald Ringrose will continue to look after his -- independent? -- chapel St. Athanasius in US-Vienna.
Ok that's more up-to-date than what I knew. A few weeks back he had told a friend, who told us -- so it was secondhand -- that he was going to Chicago.
The information is in the first 10 minutes of the linked Fr. Pfeiffer sermon from last Sunday, 12th August 2012.
Could some native English-speaker please listen to these first 10 minutes of the sermon and write the short information about the homestead of these four priests down, and then post it here? To make sure I didn't misunderstand it. Thank you.
2:30 And on this Sunday, we reopen as a regular chapel here our lady of mt carmel in boston ky ...we reopen this chapel as a regular chapel here we hope to have regular masses here, but there are people calling for us all over the world to come & give them the mass and the sacraments there will be 4 priests that should be stationed here in OLofMC, which would be myself Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer , Fr. David Hewko, Fr. Richard Voigt and Fr. Chazal .
But We will not be here at all times. The priests will be travelling. Many people are calling and asking us to come and Minister to them Because of the Various persecutions & difficulties they are experiencing at this time. We will continue the work of catholic tradition the work that we have done since we were ordained priests
Fr. John Timothy Pfeiffer was born in Miami, Florida, in 1965 and raised in Kentucky. When his family began attending Mass at St. Michael's in Fairfield, KY, in 1970, he became one of Fr. Hannifin's altar boys. The Pfeiffer family moved into the country in 1974, and at the same time Fr. Hannifin retired from the Diocese, built the Chapel of Our Lady of Mount Carmel on their property and took up residence there. Fr. Timothy and his brother Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer were both sponsored through the seminary by Fr. Hannifin. He was ordained on June 24th, 1989, ...
I transcribed this for a friend on Sunday - the first part of Fr. Pfeiffer's sermon with particulars about their situation.
The 5 priests who are living at Our Lady of Mount Carmel in
Boston, KY.
Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer
Fr. Francios Chazal
Fr. Richard Voigt
Fr. David Hewko
Fr. Ronald Ringrose was the host of the priest meeting 8/9/2012
Eleventh Sunday after Pentecost.
This last week there was a meeting of priests in Vienna, Virginia. At the beginning there were going to be many priests at this meeting, but at the end there were only 5 of us at the meeting in Vienna, VA. There was Fr. Ringrose, who hosted us at his chapel, St. Athanasius, and then Fr. Richard Voigt, who was a Silesian priest who was with my brother in Syracuse NY. for many years, then Fr. David Hewko, and Fr. Francios Chazal.
At the meeting we began a formation of a resistance against the present neo-direction of the neo-SSPX , which has decided, determined and approved officially at the July 14, 2012 Chapter of the SSPX the conditions of a putting itself under Rome. Which means in principle the SSPX has accepted to go against Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and place ourselves under modernist Rome. So we cannot accept this. And also, each of us priests has been commanded that we must be silent and cannot preach against the agreement, or against compromise, and that we are required to be silent in all those things that may be perceived as against the present direction of the Superior General. And so we cannot do that because this direction is against the direction of the SSPX and all of Catholic Tradition for the last 40 years. And so we have produced a declaration which was sent out to our superiors and also to the world on August the 10th concerning our present situation and the declaration concerning the present crisis within the SSPX.
And on this Sunday, we re-open here as a regular chapel Our Lady of Mount Carmel in Boston, KY. We hope to have regular Masses here, but there are people calling for us all over the world to come and give them the Mass and the sacraments. There are 4 priests that should be stationed here in Our Lady of Mount Carmel which will be myself, Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer, Fr. David Hewko, Fr. Richard Voigt, and Fr. Francois Chazal. But we will not be here at all times. The priests will be traveling, and many people are calling for us to come and minister to them because of the various persecutions and difficulties that they are experiencing at this time. So we will continue the work that we were required to do as members of the SSPX , and as priests of the SSPX, and of Catholic Tradition. The work that we have done formerly since we were ordained to the priesthood formerly with the permission and approval of our superiors, but now we do the same work but our superiors have turned against it. So as our superiors have turned against it, we must continue along the line of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. And so we begin this work after the meeting of a couple days ago at Washington DC.
Many priests are supporting us from the outside, many priests are saying they are happy with what we are doing, and that they appreciate it, but that at this time they are not ready for various reasons to participate in one way or another; because of the gray area in which we partly find ourselves today. One day we are warning against an agreement with Rome, that this agreement is coming. We have been aiming in the direction of the agreement for a tleast 12 years, and this agreement is coming soon. It was announced at the general chapter that we have accepted the principle that there can be an agreement and the general chapter of 40 priests approved of that principle, and they approved of the conditions. And none of those conditions are the conditions laid down by Archbishop Lefebvre (of which the primary condition is that Rome convert to the Catholic faith). This condition is no longer present in the conditions and this is a principle condition for all of us in the fight for Tradition. That’s why we have this chapel here established in 1973 because we must stand firm in the faith and we must maintain that faith until such time as Rome comes back to her senses. And so we maintain that fight which is not only the fight of Archbishop Lefebvre, but also the fight of all Traditional priests and faithful throughout the world. So, our base will be here in Boston Kentucky, at Our Lady of Mount Carmel Chapel.
Footnote about the author, Fr. Timothy Pfeiffer, from the article about Fr. Hannifin (http://www.angelusonline.org/index.php?section=articles&subsection=show_article&article_id=2062) I linked to above.QuoteFr. John Timothy Pfeiffer was born in Miami, Florida, in 1965 and raised in Kentucky. When his family began attending Mass at St. Michael's in Fairfield, KY, in 1970, he became one of Fr. Hannifin's altar boys. The Pfeiffer family moved into the country in 1974, and at the same time Fr. Hannifin retired from the Diocese, built the Chapel of Our Lady of Mount Carmel on their property and took up residence there. Fr. Timothy and his brother Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer were both sponsored through the seminary by Fr. Hannifin. He was ordained on June 24th, 1989, ...
quote.
"we must persevere in the Charity of the Truth and the Truth of Charity, organized in a united corps of priests faithful to the position always maintained by Archbishop Lefebvre.
Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer, Fr..Ronald J. Ringrose, Fr. Richard Voigt, Fr. David Hewko, Fr. François Chazal "
So, now they are the members of this new organization, a united corps of priests. What is the name of this organization?
How do we call them?
Anyway I will support them.
TODAY'S SITUATION...
10. There is a replacement of the original Fatima solution, which is the consecration of Russia by the pope united with the bishops, by a belief that the SSPX can negotiate Modernist Rome back to the Catholic Faith.
I find it rather significant that the same thing that happened to the Fatima Movement
in 1962 is starting to happen to the SSPX in 2012, 60 years later.Quote from: J PaulTODAY'S SITUATION...
10. There is a replacement of the original Fatima solution, which is the consecration of Russia by the pope united with the bishops, by a belief that the SSPX can negotiate Modernist Rome back to the Catholic Faith.
At the start of Vatican II, the Pope basically refused to do the easy thing, which
would have been to conduct the Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of
Mary together with all the bishops of the world, because they were all together in
the Basilica of St. Peter in Rome. He openly proclaimed that he would now rely
on the mercy of God, instead of condemning error. And for the first time in the
history of the Church, an oecuмenical council was called FOR NO GOOD REASON.
In the past, it was always to CONDEMN ERROR that a general council was called.
But not this time. This time they would pretend that there was no error to condemn.
The ERRORS OF RUSSIA (in the words of Our Lady, who is infallible in her judgments
because she is in perfect harmony with the judgment of God!) would not only be
left to fester worldwide (in fulfillment of Her prophesy!) but they would be de facto
denied to even exist in the first place. Not only that, the ERRORS OF RUSSIA would
be imported into the Vatican wholesale, like a drop-shipment from FedEx.
In 1962 John XXIII was wont to rely on the ability of MAN to "negotiate" with Russia
and/or with any of the forces outside the Church that are bent on her destruction.
He fairly set aside the grace of God as proffered in the Message of Fatima, and he
did this without providing us any clue as to where he was getting this corrupted
concept of denial. When he read the Third Secret, he said to those witnesses
assembled before him, "This is not for Our Pontificate." The single, greatest threat
to the Church ever, Communism, was ignored, while that SHOULD have been the
purpose of calling Vatican II in the first place! The Vicar of Christ was openly
committing blasphemy against the Mother of God.
Today, the SSPX is doing the same thing, only this time, it's Rome (instead of
Communism) that is the villain, inasmuch as Rome needs to be returned to the
Catholic Faith. But it is the same mistake: THE POPE AND BISHOPS NOT
CONSECRATING RUSSIA TO THE IMMACULATE HEART OF MARY.
Some things never change!
Quote from: PAT317Footnote about the author, Fr. Timothy Pfeiffer, from the article about Fr. Hannifin (http://www.angelusonline.org/index.php?section=articles&subsection=show_article&article_id=2062) I linked to above.QuoteFr. John Timothy Pfeiffer was born in Miami, Florida, in 1965 and raised in Kentucky. When his family began attending Mass at St. Michael's in Fairfield, KY, in 1970, he became one of Fr. Hannifin's altar boys. The Pfeiffer family moved into the country in 1974, and at the same time Fr. Hannifin retired from the Diocese, built the Chapel of Our Lady of Mount Carmel on their property and took up residence there. Fr. Timothy and his brother Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer were both sponsored through the seminary by Fr. Hannifin. He was ordained on June 24th, 1989, ...
That's an interesting page to read. Here is the section on Fr. Hannifin's mentor, Fr.
LaCouture, who exhibits instincts similar to Archbishop Lefebvre:
On the clergy side of things, Father always tended to associate with priests who were more inclined to seek after perfection. Fellow priests labeled Fr. Brown and Fr. Hannifin "the twins" because together they made a pair who were aspiring to fulfill the apostolic lessons of the great Canadian apostle of the clergy, Fr. LaCouture.
Fr. LaCouture was a French-Canadian priest who had done some studies in the US and so was familiar with a broad spectrum of the clergy. He was a man who had learned what the priesthood meant while on a lonely assignment in Alaska. He also preached the Ignatian Retreats with great zeal almost uniquely to clergy and religious during the late '40's and '50's. His fiery preaching to a clergy somewhat annoyed at the practical effects of the evangelical counsels got him sent away to serve the Indians in Northeastern Canada where he died sometime before the Council. Before his exile he had prophesied to the worldly clergy of his day that they would abandon their cassocks and find their churches empty in less than 20 years. His retreats in Pittsburgh drew Fr. Hannifin and Fr. Brown, and together they made a sort of society of friendship in which they tried to put into practice the teachings of Fr. LaCouture. No doubt that Father's endless generosity and freedom with his material goods was a direct result of his effort to practice the evangelical counsels in parish life. Fr. Hannifin most certainly fulfilled the prophesy of Fr. LaCouture, who always promised the clergy that they would never lack for anything if they were faithful and generous with regard to Lady Poverty.
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(Caption under photo: Fr. Hannifin performed the marriage of his younger cousin, Helen, about one year after his ordination, February 16, 1946, in Hartford, CT.]
Father drew his first pastorship at St. Michael's in Fairfield, KY, starting there in 1961. When the Council opened in 1962 and closed in 1965, the Archdiocese organized deanery meetings in order to bring everyone up to speed. His first deanery meeting left Father disgusted and he never went back. While he didn't spend much time belaboring a theological argument, his instinct of faith enabled him to diagnose the problem and avoid the changes. Father remained firm in his attachment to the Traditional Mass and with the support of some faithful Catholics, St. Michael's became a center of attraction for those who wanted to stay faithful to the old Mass.
Shortly after Father's 25th anniversary, which took place in 1970 as the post-Conciliar revolution was gaining steam, Father sensed danger in the air and with his practical sagacity bought a mobile home. He understood that he was not going to follow the new direction the Churchmen were taking and he wanted to be ready to move out when the time came. That time wasn't long in coming. Shortly thereafter the bishop hinted at and prepared his transfer. Father knew that this was a move to dislodge the geographical monument to the old Mass that St. Michael's was becoming, and he could see that his fidelity to the Mass would only mean more and more transfers. Accordingly, being over 60, he opted to retire and did so retaining all his privileges.
The inevitable was to be expected; a priest, public man that he is, does not do things for himself alone and whither he goes, be it for good or for ill, he leads people along after him. And so Fr. Hannifin saw Providence guide him to a private farm upon which he parked his trailer and built a chapel on a little hill in Boston, KY. He named the chapel and the hill Our Lady of Mount Carmel, and the first Mass was said in the unfinished structure on bare floors on July 16, 1972.
....And that was the beginning of the Pfeiffers' home chapel.............
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Fr. Hannifin, the Pfeiffer family, and Raymond and Helen Graft,
the Old Guard choir finishing the usual long donut period after
Sunday Mass. Choir duty necessitates long refreshment periods
after Mass. Photo from the 1970's with the old chapel in the
background.
A question we always ask the old-timers who have held the Faith is: "How did you do it?" And then we wait expectantly with notebook in hand for the answer that, like a magic potion, will keep us like them immune from falling away from the Faith and becoming ourselves cooperators in the universal evil. Some of the old-timers I've known have said: "I asked myself that too, and I chalk it up strictly to the grace of God. So many men I've seen better than me in the seminary and yet here I am and there they are." For his part Fr. Hannifin said: "I don't know." But then he would also say: "I don't know why they can't see it!"
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Preaching, preaching, and more preaching. Anyone
trained by listening to Father's sermons considered a
45 minute sermon a short homily. Here he is in perfect
form at his 50th.
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Praying the Office for the Dead for Fr. Hannifin are (left to right),
Frs. Timothy Pfeiffer, Joseph Pfeiffer, and Steven Soos.
Old Pastors are hard to replace and they can easily be forgotten. Father often would say that no one is more forgotten than a deceased priest. Though he passed away on January 15, 2001, let us not forget him.
(I would recommend that someone who knows how should download the entire article and photos, because since it's part of Angelus website, it might not be too long before these "obsolete" articles are deleted.... ...)
The story of Fr. Hannifin is a very moving story. I'm so grateful for having been introduced, albeit remotely. These things were going on when I was 3,000 miles away, and I had no idea at the time. Better late than never! Much obliged!