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« on: February 16, 2014, 03:11:08 PM »
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  • From another thread this posting brought quite a few thoughts:

    Quote from: John Grace
    The irony is several years ago anybody, who was critical of Bishop Fellay were told they had an agenda against Bishop Fellay. The irony he being the one with an agenda.

    Bishop Fellay and Menzingen played on the fears of the laity. Even recently in Ireland, Fr Pfluger warned laity not to cut themselves off from the Mass.

    A woman in another District was placed under "Holy Obedience". Did she ever wonder why?

    Laity have only themselves to blame. Many were taken for complete fools.

    I disagree with the former Cath Info member Telesphorus of the SSPX being a cult but agree critical thinking is not encouraged.

    I experienced this with an SSPX priest in St. George's House. He wanted be to believe I had read a lie on the internet.  To him I was such a bold boy to have thought for myself, read something true. He was quite patronizing and rather insulting.

    I realize he was saving face  and wanted to protect his pious union but I am happy to go before a secular Judge about it and will stand over my comment to him when I face the judgement of God.



    By their deeds you shall know them!

    This sounds exactly like the tactic used by our enemies the communists. Lucia of Fatima said the whole world will become communist. The tactics used by these priests is the same as the communists, the end justifies the means. Keep the masses ignorant, eliminate the educated, and when you have enough power, take it over and run the show.

    If someone has bad intentions, it is easy to takeover a priestly organization like the SSPX, You start at the seminary by accepting only young men who are followers, order takers, blind admirers of their teachers. You train them to follow orders, obedience, and leave the thinking to their superiors. You don't prepare them to stand for themselves, to be self sufficient. In short, you provide them their daily fish, but you never teach them how to fish for themselves. That is what has happened to the SSPX clergy.

    Concerning the laity, you use similar tactics, you train them to follow orders, obedience, and leave the thinking to the priest in charge. You do not teach them to think for themselves, you keep them dumb down. You eliminate any thinking person as a challenge to authority.


    Now, what does a good shepherd do in our times? Very simply, he sacrifices himself for the flock. He teaches his flock everything that they need to know to survive without him, for he knows that he could die tomorrow, and his flock will be on its own. He prepares his flock to survive without him. I believe this was the driving force behind the life work of the likes of  Abp. Lefebvre, Bp. Williamson, Fr. Bolduc, to teach their flock to survive on their own. Their driving force was to teach us how to fish, so that we could feed ourselves.

    Two different approaches to shepherding, "management", one a selfish one intended just to hold the power, and the other an educating, an empowering of the people to fend for themselves. One system is of God, the other of fallen man.

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    « Reply #1 on: February 16, 2014, 03:40:58 PM »
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  • If anything the cleric was probably trying to protect his laity. Fr Morgan and others were told many times, the silence would cause problems.


    I think most SSPX laity were like 'Cassini'.They kept out of the internal SSPX business, they made the Mass their priority.

    There is debate regarding what indeed laity could do. Many were not well informed of the issues.

    The manner in which 'Krahgate' was disregarded is very alarming yet now you have laity worried about 'their' chapels and the new direction.

    One woman on another forum put it well when she stated SSPX laity were like lambs being lead to the slaughter.

    If SSPX laity were saying that Bishop Williamson is "imprudent" they are hardly a threat to the Zionist leadership of the Pious Union.

    I think blind obedience and complacency has brought about the destruction of the SSPX.






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    « Reply #2 on: February 16, 2014, 07:09:38 PM »
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  • Yes, control tactics straight out of the liberal-leftist handbook . . . therefore straight out of hell!

    This is not how the soldiers of the light do battle.

    For reasons we already know, Bishop Fellay has done great evil by delivering the Society into the hands of Judeo-Masonic Rome . . . without the latter ever having had to fire a single shot.

    The "good" SSPX priests who purportedly hate the errors of Vatican II but who remain silent--only preaching on the "safe" subjects such as the virtues and the saints--are heaping up no less evil. For they lead the faithful away from the Faith little by little by their silence and inject new life into the deadly false sense of security that the old SSPX is still "a-okay" and still going strong.  

    I have been guilty of this stupidity myself, so I mock no one without recalling my own foolishness and idiocy of baseless optimism regarding the Society!

    It's these "good" priests, ironically, who do the most harm in the end (and who therefore remain the most useful, convincing tools of the devil), precisely because they do the most to keep the faithful from waking up to the reality of this crisis. Menzingen loves them because they keep the faithful where Menzingen precisely wants them . . . without ever having to fire a single shot.

    I cannot obviously cast judgment on the personal culpability of these silent priests, but objectively, they do great evil--essentially letting the children to continue sleeping comfortably in their beds even with the unmistakable smell of smoke ascending from below. What true parent would do that?

    If the Vatican is on its A-Game, it would likely let the Neo-SSPX carry on as it pretty much does today, upon its canonical regularization, making it a false oasis distinct enough from the other loser groups that have surrendered from Day One, so as to "fool even the elect" into thinking that, "Hey, we really are converting Rome from within!"

    This new fully reintegrated Neo-SSPX would be as a powerful magnet to seal the fate of those who've never felt quite comfortable with the openly pro-Vatican II "trad" groups such as the FSSP but who've been more than hesitant to give heed to the warnings of the Resistance Fathers. All they need is convincing enough proof that the Vatican kept its end of the bargain and that Bishop Fellay was right all along!

    Outwardly, they may be granted the following liberties:

    1. Unconditional exemption from saying the New Mass
    2. Freedom from the diocesan bishops and getting to build priories at will
    3. EVEN freedom from ever having to teach a single document of Vatican II

    So what's the catch?

    1. Silence from speaking ill against Rome (condemn errors in the abstract only--no naming names or cranking out open letters as in the days of ABL--maybe just open letters of praise and gratitude)

    2. SLOWLY sow the seeds of relativistic thinking in the seminaries so that contradictions in the teachings are easily blended away or claimed as being "too complex" in the reality of things. The one give away when someone refuses to submit to the truth is when he tries to muddy the waters by saying that a given situation is "just too complex" for the otherwise clear-cut principles to apply--the classic "smokescreen" of the devil.

    So there you have it, my friends . . . a reintegrated Neo-SSPX that will be given liberties unheard of by previous groups precisely to draw in the remaining remnant faithful (to "finish the job," if you will)--liberties that Bishop Fellay would no doubt tout as the answer to his Nth rosary crusade or Menzingen bake sale.

    Rome is not dumb. It will not treat the reintegrated Neo-SSPX as just another piece of stamped metal. They're gonna want to get some mileage out of this new puppy!

    Anyway, here's an excellent You Tube sermon by Fr. Pfeiffer that speaks to the subject of these "good" but silent SSPX priests. It's not new, but if you haven't heard it already, please do!



    God bless! Keep resisting folks! For us as Catholics, this is the fight of our lifetime--fighting for the rights of God, Christ's Kingdom, and incidentally saving our souls. It's Bishop Fellay and his cohorts who have turned this sacred mission into a rationalist word-game and power grab . . . a mockery before God!




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    « Reply #3 on: February 16, 2014, 07:36:34 PM »
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  • Oh, and one more thing. Some may wonder why Rome would even bother with such an elaborate hoax of setting up a "too-good-to-be-true" version of the reintegrated Neo-SSPX--especially with the Resistance being a relatively "insignificant, poorly-funded, and scattered bunch of nay-sayers" in the eyes of many.

    Well, as individuals, we have nothing to boast. Quite right. But, keep in mind, it's the devil that will not rest until he feels he has extinguished every remaining remnant of those preserving the true Catholic Faith.

    In this, he sees a formidable enemy in those who resist for the Faith, however small in numbers--and poorly armed in the eyes of the world.

    Then, what trick up his sleeves will he not exhaust just to get at these menacing few?

    But let us not let this great price on our heads GET to our heads. There is that temptation, I know--at least speaking for myself. Instead, let us be ever focused on Christ, our sinfulness and unworthiness before God, and the great battle ahead!!!  

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    « Reply #4 on: February 17, 2014, 05:21:38 PM »
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  • Maybe it's my mother's heart, but I can't feel anything but deep pity for those priests too afraid to speak up. There is no safety for them. If they voice their concerns, they're almost sure to be booted out with not so much as a "see ya later". No home, no money, no allies in many cases. If their families are loyal to +Fellay, they are doubly oppressed. Where can they turn? To whom can they depend to buffet them up?

    What of those souls entrusted to their care, if they are unsure of the situation?  The anguish is evident on their faces at mass. Their hearts are clearly broken. Their concern and confusion is just as easily seen.

    Their misfortune is that a choice must and eventually will be made. To proclaim error as error, even without naming names, is an offense that can put them on the outs. They must be loyal or speak truth.

    That is how we know +Fellay has gone off the rails. He begins to have a paranoid delusion that even his faithful priests who preach against errors are preaching against him personally. It binds the toungues and hearts of those who wish only to lead souls to heaven. How can any of us feel anything but pity for the tortures of their hearts?

    We should continue to pray that they will find their courage and be prepared to be fight in a poor army.  :pray:
    Matthew 6:34
    " Be not therefore solicitous for to morrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof."


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    « Reply #5 on: February 17, 2014, 05:52:42 PM »
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  • Maybe we should title the next thread something like "all SSPX priest are heartless cockroaches with whores for mothers" or would it sound better to say that "the priest who belong to the SSPX are the worst products of the human race that have ever walked the earth and should be suffocatd with plastic bags and their bodies paraded through the central of cities"?

    Let me know what y'all think so I can prepare my next thread well to fit in with the others on this forum.
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    « Reply #6 on: February 17, 2014, 06:45:27 PM »
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  • The wounds in the body of the SSPX are caused by the sins in the souls of her members;

    http://www.drbo.org/chapter/29002.htm



    Just like V2 and the conciliar church is a punishment for the same.
       

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    « Reply #7 on: February 17, 2014, 08:23:55 PM »
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  • Quote from: Centroamerica
    Maybe we should title the next thread something like "all SSPX priest are heartless cockroaches with whores for mothers" or would it sound better to say that "the priest who belong to the SSPX are the worst products of the human race that have ever walked the earth and should be suffocatd with plastic bags and their bodies paraded through the central of cities"?

    Let me know what y'all think so I can prepare my next thread well to fit in with the others on this forum.


    There's not much room to write a title to a thread. Their tactics are the same as the communists, the actual explanation of the thread is quite clear. It shows how  good shepherds behave, and how selfish shepherds behave.

    No seas tan exagerado.


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    « Reply #8 on: February 18, 2014, 08:07:53 AM »
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    Title of thread: "Current SSPX Priests are like the Communists / Socialists"

     I wrote "current" to distinguish them from the SSPX priests of the past, and those that have left the SSPX (the Resistance priests, they have left all their possessions to follow truth).

    The opening thread explains my thinking in detail.

     

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