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Title: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: johannesburg on January 08, 2018, 07:57:01 AM
Does anyone have any news on the current Bishop Williamson visit to the US?
Any youtube videos? Anything?
Title: Re: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: wallflower on January 09, 2018, 08:02:43 AM

One thing I am becoming increasingly disappointed with in the Resistance is the lack of transparency. If you aren't in the secret club you won't hear anything.
Title: Re: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: Enoc on January 09, 2018, 09:52:05 AM
You are totally right. The truth, the light, is from its nature to be set as to be seen by anyone.
Title: Re: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: kiwiboy on January 09, 2018, 01:21:56 PM
Agree with both of you.
There are reasons for this, but if I say why, I will be banned from the forum and my post deleted.
Title: Re: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: John XYZ on January 09, 2018, 02:13:29 PM
Does anyone have any news on the current Bishop Williamson visit to the US?
Any youtube videos? Anything?
Bishop Williamson was in Santa Cruz (Brasil) on Christmas. He visited the United States on May 2017 for the episcopal consecration of Bishop Zendejas.

Here is a very good sermon he gave recently in Fatima (October 2017) about the necessity of the consecration of Russia to the Blessed Virgin Mary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbrZ1qmP5sE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbrZ1qmP5sE)
Title: Re: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: Seraphia on January 09, 2018, 09:43:50 PM
One thing I am becoming increasingly disappointed with in the Resistance is the lack of transparency. If you aren't in the secret club you won't hear anything.
Thank you for saying this, I've been wanting to say the same for a while now. Not that it would do any good.
Title: Re: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: Neil Obstat on January 09, 2018, 11:39:40 PM
One thing I am becoming increasingly disappointed with in the Resistance is the lack of transparency. If you aren't in the secret club you won't hear anything.
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Who's in charge of the secret club?
Title: Re: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: MaterDominici on January 10, 2018, 12:10:58 AM
I would subscribe to SoldierOfCTK's YouTube channel. He usually records any visits of Bp Williamson to the U.S. (although I'm not certain about this visit).

Matthew was also told he'd be sent videos of any sermons given during this visit, but I don't know who'd be doing that, so we'll see. You can subscribe to the CathInfo YouTube channel, but if Matthew uploads something, he'll post it on CathInfo as well.
Title: Re: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: chrstnoel1 on January 10, 2018, 12:53:44 AM
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Who's in charge of the secret club?
CIA 8)
Title: Re: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: JmJ2cents on January 11, 2018, 01:37:23 AM
The OLMC outfit only wants to see the videos so they can scrutinize every word.  I can understand why there is caution in publicizing anything anymore.  
Title: Re: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: Mr G on January 11, 2018, 09:32:56 AM
The OLMC outfit only wants to see the videos so they can scrutinize every word.  I can understand why there is caution in publicizing anything anymore.  
Yes, this seems to be the most likely answer, especially when in some of these Resistance parishes contain people that attend Masse at both Missions of SAJM and OLMC and those that still support or sympathize with OLMC can be quick to share their criticisms of Bishop William (while at the Mission of SAJM).
Title: Re: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: JPaul on January 11, 2018, 11:39:34 AM
He who speaks the Truth has nothing to fear and nothing to hide.  If any competing group makes criticism, it will be seen for what it is, if there is no basis for it.
Title: Re: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: Meg on January 11, 2018, 12:04:01 PM
He who speaks the Truth has nothing to fear and nothing to hide.  If any competing group makes criticism, it will be seen for what it is, if there is no basis for it.

The enemies of the Resistance, of whom there are many on this forum, will not accept anything of truth from the Resistance bishops. The enemies of the Resistance will rally against the Resistance bishops, as always.
Title: Re: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: Carissima on January 11, 2018, 12:10:03 PM
If he is a bishop of the church speaking the truth, commissioned to do, why should there be caution?

Why does everything have to come back to olmc?  Are you saying the bishop has less clout than olmc?  If so, what reason would that be?

Why can't we know were the four bishops visits and hold conferences to receive the sacraments and hear what they have to say?  Why do we catholics have to wait until AFTER they were somewhere, and receive an edited version, if at all?  Why the insult to our faith?  

I concur with the others, why the secrecy when we are catholic?
I agree with this also. 

Is it absolutely true though? Are there no schedules posted anywhere online of the bishops Masses, conferences or Confirmations? 

Title: Re: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: Neil Obstat on January 11, 2018, 12:10:42 PM
List of 8 questions:
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1) If he is a bishop of the Church speaking the truth, [as he was] commissioned to do, why should there be caution?

2) Why does everything have to come back to olmc?  

3) Are you saying the bishop has less clout than olmc?  
 
4) If so, what [would be the] reason [for] that? 

5) Why can't we know [where] the four bishops [visit] and hold conferences, to receive the sacraments and hear what they have to say?  

6) Why do we Catholics have to wait until AFTER they were somewhere, and receive an edited version, if at all?  
7) Why the insult to our faith?  

8 ) I concur with the others, why the secrecy when we are catholic?
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My favorite is #6.
Title: Re: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: Neil Obstat on January 11, 2018, 12:15:57 PM
The enemies of the Resistance, of whom there are many on this forum, ...
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Name one.
Title: Re: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: wallflower on January 11, 2018, 04:58:49 PM
Is it absolutely true though? Are there no schedules posted anywhere online of the bishops Masses, conferences or Confirmations?
I am pretty sure not. I think there are some private email lists but this would do us only limited good. Depending on timing and where we are at that time, we could travel to any number of destinations. Knowing the broader schedule would be much more helpful to us.  

It would be great if someone could become a public schedule coordinator, to let the public know when and where the priests and bishops are visiting. But who is in such a position to do this? And would the priests and bishops allow for it? I understand the complexities of the situation and am trying not to be resentful, but I have to admit it is creeping in a bit.  
Title: Re: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: Neil Obstat on January 11, 2018, 06:17:49 PM
I am pretty sure not. I think there are some private email lists but this would do us only limited good. Depending on timing and where we are at that time, we could travel to any number of destinations. Knowing the broader schedule would be much more helpful to us.  

It would be great if someone could become a public schedule coordinator, to let the public know when and where the priests and bishops are visiting. But who is in such a position to do this? And would the priests and bishops allow for it? I understand the complexities of the situation and am trying not to be resentful, but I have to admit it is creeping in a bit.  
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Have you considered that perhaps there have been threats of violence or confrontation of some kind?
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I wouldn't put it past certain figures to get a bit desperate when things take so interminably long to accomplish. 
(Such as "normalization")
Title: Re: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: MaterDominici on January 11, 2018, 06:19:36 PM
I'm of the opinion that this is a very dated "problem". If in the years since these places began offering Mass, a person has not been there even once, the likelihood of them going at any point is very low. If you go for years without Mass, you probably don't have the means to travel to the closest location. We travel periodically to the nearest chapel with regular Mass times, and so we're on that chapel's email list. We'll know if there are going to be Confirmations, etc. because we get their bulletin each week. Unless you're saying the problem is that these places don't have email lists...
Title: Re: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: kiwiboy on January 12, 2018, 05:33:21 PM
The benefits of putting up conferences far outweigh the downsides.

There are many souls who are isolated and need to nourish themselves on sound doctrine. Having conferences given recently helps console them by making them feel linked in, which they already are spiritually of course.
Title: Re: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: MaterDominici on January 12, 2018, 05:59:02 PM
The benefits of putting up conferences far outweigh the downsides.

There are many souls who are isolated and need to nourish themselves on sound doctrine. Having conferences given recently helps console them by making them feel linked in, which they already are spiritually of course.
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I don't think anyone disagrees with this. The delay in posting conferences is usually only practical considerations like availability of a good internet connection. It's usually only a couple of days before a conference (in the U.S.) gets posted online. Some of them take a bit longer if the person recording the video has the time and ability to produce a more professional video.
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This presumes the priest has given permission, but this topic is primarily about Bp Williamson and he regularly has new content online.
Title: Re: Current Bishop Williamson visit to the US
Post by: kiwiboy on January 14, 2018, 02:20:29 PM
Perhaps, but I doubt it.