Probably a dumb question, but as I understand the Cassisiacuм thesis, Bergolio possesses the "pope elect" status and if he were to completely convert to the faith, be properly ordained and consecrated, could become the Pope. What if, as an unexpected result of all this, God zaps him with some grace as such an that happens?
Dear Friends-
Yesterday, I sent you an email regarding some questions/concerns I have regarding the forthcoming consecration.
I posted that same email in the comments section under an article on the same subject on the Remnant website here: https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/headline-news-around-the-world/item/5903-the-consecration-text-released (https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/headline-news-around-the-world/item/5903-the-consecration-text-released)
I was then engaged by a poster calling himself "Ignatio.Az," who objected to my take, and after a bit of nastiness made some arguments which honesty makes difficult.
I submit this dialogue to your consideration, and ask you rhetorically: Does he have us checkmated?
I am by no means competent to argue the ins and outs of Fatima; I have never made any special study of it.
What do you think?
Semper Idem,Sean Johnson
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---“The consecration makes no mention of Fatima, nor Russia spreading its errors;”
Thankfully, mentioning Fatima and Russia spreading its errors, is not a requirement.
---“The consecration is not being performed to comply with Our Lady's request of 1929,”
The contrary is most likely true, but it doesn't matter. What matters is that the Consecration fulfils the requirements of Our Lady’s request of 1929, namely, that Russia be consecrated to her Immaculate Heart by the Pope and bishops of the world.
---“If the real Fatima consecration is considered by the conciliarists to have taken place in 1984, than there can be no intention of complying with the Fatima request on March 25.”
No need to judge the internal forum. All that matters is that the ACT, which was requested, is accomplished.
---“The inclusion of Ukraine: Our Lady made no mention of it.”
Our Lady never said Russia had to be the sole object of the consecration. All she said is Russia has to be consecrated, and that condition is satisfied in the published form of Consecration. You have invented a new condition (that Russia alone be named) that Heaven itself never made.
---“Even if all the foregoing regarding the inclusion of Ukraine could be dismissed, the text of the consecration prayer makes clear that it is "all of humanity" which is firstly consecrated, then as a postscript, "especialy Russia and Ukraine."”
'All of humanity' is named first, but what is “especially” being consecrate is Russia and Ukraine. Hence, Russia first, and Ukraine second, are singled out as the primary objects of the Consecration.
---“Because of these reasons, I do not share the enthusiasm many (even in the traditional world) seem to evince.
The reason you aren’t enthusiastic about it is because if this Consecration by Francis and the bishops in union satisfies the condition required for the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart, and the world converts, it will prove that Francis was the Pope after all, and that the Roman Catholic Church did not defect at Vatican II, as you and your fellow heretics claim. It is not a lack of enthusiasm, but a fear being exposed as schismatic and heretic that has you concerned... and it should.
Firstly, I’m not sedevacantist. I accept Francis is Pope. Secondly, no need to display your nastinessmerely because I’m airing concerns which would not have arisen had the Pope simply said “I consecrate Russia to the immaculate heart of Mary.”
As regards the substance of your position, it seems to be that, whatever Francis might say or intend is of no account, so long as he ALSO says he’s consecrating Russia (along with whatever else he’s consecrating).
Since Our Lady only asked for Russia to be consecrated, the burden lies upon you to demonstrate that She does not take issue with Francis’s Masonic concoction, and sees it your way.
This, of course, can’t be done.
Meanwhile, I leave you with this analogy: Let’s say I’m told to fry a steak. All I have to do to comply with the order is put a steak in a pan and turn on the heat. But if in addition to this, I I cut the beef up into chunks, add flour and water, Gravy seasoning, carrots, celery, potatoes, have I still complied With the order?
According to your logic, since there’s still beef in the pan, I have.
But the rest of the world understands that instead of frying steak, I made stew.
Same thing with this consecration.
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"Meanwhile, I leave you with this analogy: Let’s say I’m told to fry a steak. All I have to do to comply with the order is put a steak in a pan and turn on the heat. But if in addition to this, I I cut the beef up into chunks, add flour and water, Gravy seasoning, carrots, celery, potatoes, have I still complied With the order?"
Here's a better analogy. You are told to fry a steak. .In response, you fry a steak, and while your at it, you also make a salad, potatoes, mushrooms to go on the steak, and make a pie for desert. Did you fulfil the request of frying a steak? Of course you did.
Now, if you would had been told: "Fry a steak only, and whatever you do, DO NOT cook anything else for at least 24 hours" With that added condition, you would not have fulfilled the request. But when did Our Lady every say "consecrate Russia" only, and DO NOT name anything else?
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Implicitly, by your revision of my analogy, you are arguing that Francis's consecration (including salad and potatoes, etc) has not merely complied with Our Lady's request, but actually gone above and beyond.
Leaving aside the unliklihood that this is what Francis thinks he is doing (complying with the requirements of an apparition he doesn't even refer to, and then some), you implicitly argue that Our Lady was too vague by not being specific enough in her request.
Moreover, it ignores the fact that Our Lady may have had reasons she only wanted Russia consecrated:
If I tell my son to go get some wood from the shed and build a doghouse, and in addition to building the doghouse he also builds a shed, he may have materially complied with my request, but frustrated my aims in asking him to build the doghouse: By thinking himself to have gone above and beyond, he has frustrated my will to build a garage with the wood he took on his own initiative to build a shed.
Was I obliged to explain my plans and reasonings to him, being sure to tell him not to build anything else with the wood? Or did I have a reasonable expectation that he would simply do what I told him?
In short, your reconstructed analogy only holds if it can be ascertained that Our Lady does not have reasons for only wanting Russia consecrated (and obviously, this ascertainment cannot be accomplished this side of heaven, barring another revelation).
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"In short, your reconstructed analogy only holds if it can be ascertained that Our Lady does not have reasons for only wanting Russia consecrated."
That can indeed be ascertained. In Volume 2 of The Whole Truth About Fatima, we learn that in addition to the Consecration of Russia, Our Lord also added a request for the Consecration of the world "with a special mention of Russia". When he added the part about the world, however, he did not specify the need of performing the consecration of the world in union with the bishops. When Pius XII did consecrated the world in 1942 (without the bishops), Sr. Lucy said he only fulfilled part of what was requested, since he did not also consecrate Russia in union with the bishops. She then added that Our Lord was pleased with the partial fulfilment, but that "the time for Russia's conversion has not yet arrived."
Since Christ himself added the request for the world to be consecrated, and said it could be done at the same time as the Consecration of Russia with all the bishops, we have definitive proof, from God, that Our Lady did not have a reason for ONLY wanting Russia named as the object of the consecration.Anon. Ignatio.Az (https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/headline-news-around-the-world/item/5903-the-consecration-text-released#comment-5803761662) • 12 minutes ago (https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/headline-news-around-the-world/item/5903-the-consecration-text-released#comment-5803815837)Hmm...That's not a bad argument. I'll have to think about it.
La consécration de la Russie au Cœur Immaculé de MarieQuoteDe grandes grâces sont attachées à cette consécration, a révélé Notre-Dame à sœur Lucie. A-t-elle été réalisée jusqu’ici ?Le 20 juillet 1926, Lucie fut envoyée au noviciat de Tuy, non loin de la frontière portugaise, pour compléter son postulat. Le 2 octobre 1926, elle y reçut le voile, y passa ses deux années de Noviciat et fit profession le 3 octobre 1928. Le 13 juin 1929, dans ce même couvent, Notre Dame vint lui demander la Consécration de la Russie à son Cœur Immaculé. Laissons Sœur Lucie nous décrire cette nouvelle et splendide vision [1]:
« J’avais demandé et obtenu la permission de mes Supérieures et de mon confesseur de faire une Heure Sainte, de onze heures à minuit, dans la nuit du jeudi au vendredi. Me trouvant ainsi seule, une nuit… la seule lumière était celle de la lampe (du Très Saint Sacrement). Soudain, toute la chapelle s’illumina d’une lumière surnaturelle et, sur l’autel, apparut une croix de lumière, qui s’élevait jusqu’au plafond. Dans une lumière plus claire, on voyait, sur la partie supérieure de la croix, la figure d’un homme, dont on voyait le corps jusqu’à la ceinture, sur sa poitrine une colombe, également lumineuse et, cloué à la croix, le corps d’un autre homme. Un peu au-dessous de la ceinture (de celui-ci), suspendus en l’air, on voyait un calice et une grande hostie, sur laquelle tombaient quelques gouttes de sang, qui coulaient sur les joues du crucifié et d’une blessure à la poitrine. Coulant sur l’hostie, ces gouttes tombaient dans le calice.
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Sous le bras droit de la croix, se trouvait Notre Dame ; c’était Notre Dame de Fatima, avec son Cœur Immaculé dans la main gauche, sans épée, ni roses, mais avec une couronne d’épines et des flammes.
Sous le bras gauche de la croix, de grandes lettres, comme d’une eau cristalline qui aurait coulé au-dessus de l’autel, formaient ces mots : “Grâce et Miséricorde”. Je compris que m’était montré le mystère de la Très Sainte Trinité, et je reçus sur ce mystère des lumières qu’il ne m’est pas permis de révéler.
Ensuite, Notre Dame me dit : “Le moment est venu où Dieu demande au Saint-Père de faire, en union avec tous les évêques du monde, la consécration de la Russie à mon Cœur Immaculé. Il promet de la sauver par ce moyen.
Il y a tant d’âmes que la justice de Dieu condamne pour des péchés commis contre moi, que je viens demander réparation. Sacrifie-toi à cette intention et prie. »
Les conditions de cette Consécration de la Russie sont claires : que le pape consacre la Russie en particulier et non le monde en général et en union, au moins morale, avec les évêques du monde entier.
A plusieurs reprises [2], Sœur Lucie rappellera ces conditions sine qua non.(http://data:image/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20viewBox%3D%220%200%20579%20122%22%20width%3D%22579%22%20height%3D%22122%22%20xmlns%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%22%3E%3C%2Fsvg%3E)
- Lors d’un entretien avec le P. Jongen, à Tuy, le 3 février 1946 : « La Sainte Vierge demande la consécration de la Russie au Cœur Immaculé de Marie, par le pape, en union avec tous les évêques du monde ». « N’a-t-elle pas parlé de la consécration du monde ? » « Non ».
- Le P. Mac Glynn, en février 1947, entendit Sœur Lucie répéter avec force cette demande précise : « Non ! Non ! Pas le monde ! La Russie, la Russie » !
- Après l’acte d’offrande effectué le 13 mai 1982 par Jean-Paul II, la voyante fit remarquer que la Russie n’avait pas été l’objet de la consécration. Or, Dieu voulait « la consécration de la Russie et de la seule Russie, sans aucune adjonction ».
- Dans une lettre adressée au P. Umberto Pasquale, datée du 13 avril 1980, elle écrit : « Notre Dame à Fatima, dans sa demande, se réfère seulement à la consécration de la Russie » : « só se referece a consagração da Russia », comme nous pouvons le lire ci-dessous :
J’entends encore le cher et infatigable [4] abbé Caillon me dire avec émotion dans les années 1980 : « Non, non la Russie n’est toujours pas consacrée au Cœur Immaculé de Marie » ! Reconnaissons tout de même que la réalisation de ces deux conditions : consécration de la seule Russie et l’union morale du Pape avec les évêques, ne dépasse pas les forces humaines ! Pourtant, la demande de Notre Dame n’est toujours pas accomplie, comme en témoigne ce petit tableau :
- Dans les deux lettres qu’elle écrivit au P. Gonçalves, en mai 1930, Sœur Lucie précise : « Le Bon Dieu promet de mettre fin à la persécution en Russie, si le Saint-Père daigne faire, et ordonne [3] aux évêques du monde catholique de faire également, un acte solennel et public de réparation et de consécration de la Russie ».
Pape Année Consécration Russie Solennellement Avec les
évêquesPie XI – – – – – Pie XII 1942 Oui Monde Oui Non Pie XII 1952 Oui Oui Non Non Jean XXIII – – – – – Paul VI 1964 Oui Monde Oui Non Jean-Paul Ier – – – – – Jean-Paul II 1982 Offrande Monde Oui Non Jean-Paul II 1984 Oui Monde… Oui Non Benoît XVI 2010 Oui Les prêtres Oui Non François 2013 Oui Monde Oui Non
Il faut admettre, avec le Frère François de Marie des Anges [5], que la consécration faite par Pie XII en 1942 n’a pas été sans fruits : « Il est remarquable que les mois qui suivirent cet acte solennel marquèrent le véritable tournant de la guerre qui s’achemina vers sa fin ». Mais en même temps, le communisme de Staline gagnait en puissance et en 1945 plusieurs nations en seront les victimes.
En août 1931, à Rianjo, Notre-Seigneur adressera à Sœur Lucie ces paroles terribles : « Fais savoir à mes ministres, étant donné qu’ils suivent l’exemple du roi de France [6] en retardant l’exécution de ma demande, qu’ils le suivront dans le malheur. Le Saint-Père consacrera la Russie, mais ce sera tard ».
Une objection vous vient peut-être à l’esprit, cher lecteur : la Russie n’est-elle pas désormais sauvée du communisme ? Le mur de Berlin n’a-t-il pas été détruit ? La pratique religieuse russe n’est-elle pas sortie de la clandestinité ? Le président Poutine, dit-on, suit une retraite annuelle dans un monastère orthodoxe ! Nous ne sommes plus au temps de Lénine ou de Staline !
Certes, mais la Russie est-elle catholique ? L’effondrement du mur de Berlin n’a-t-il pas aussi permis à la décadence occidentale et aux sectes protestantes de pénétrer en Russie ?
Une espérance est néanmoins de mise, car est apparu de nos jours en Russie un pouvoir fort, cohérent et respecté, sinon craint des autres nations, ce qui ne pourra que favoriser les merveilleux fruits de la consécration de la Russie au Cœur Immaculé telle que Notre Dame de Fatima l’a demandé ! La Russie se convertira alors officiellement à la religion catholique et deviendra un modèle de nation chrétienne.
Lorsque le P. Alonso questionna sœur Lucie sur la parole de Notre-Seigneur le Pape consacrera la Russie mais ce sera tard, la voyante lui indiqua que « la consécration de la Russie et aussi le triomphe final du Cœur Immaculé de Marie qui lui fera suite sont absolument certains et se réaliseront en dépit de tous les obstacles ».
Source : Fatima, le message pour notre temps (http://www.chire.fr/A-204027-fatima-le-message-pour-notre-temps.aspx), éditions de Chiré.
Notes de bas de page
- Mémoires, Appendice n° 2.[↩(http://data:image/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20viewBox%3D%220%200%20299%20465%22%20width%3D%22299%22%20height%3D%22465%22%20xmlns%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%22%3E%3C%2Fsvg%3E)]
- Frère François de Marie des Anges : Fatima, joie intime, événement mondial – Edition CRC, 2e édition revue et corrigée en décembre 1993. Cité par l’abbé Fabrice Delestre sur le site de La Porte Latine.[↩]
- Ce qui peut signifier que le Ciel accueillerait favorablement cette consécration même si l’autorité papale était très amoindrie.[↩]
- Le lecteur consultera avec profit l’ouvrage du Frère François de Marie des Anges, op. cit., qui rapporte avec quelle persévérance l’abbé Caillon a œuvré pour cette consécration, jusqu’à entrer plusieurs fois en contact avec le pape.[↩]
- Op. cit. p. 250.[↩]
- Le 17 juin 1689, Louis XIV refusa de consacrer son royaume au Sacré-Cœur de Jésus comme le lui avait demandé sainte Marguerite-Marie de la part de Notre-Seigneur. Comme le fait observer le Frère François de Marie des Anges (op. cit. p. 217), le 17 juin 1789, exactement un siècle après, le tiers état insurgé se proclamait Assemblée constituante, renversant ainsi la Monarchie. Ce fut le début de la Révolution française avec sa doctrine des Droits de l’homme sans Dieu et ses atrocités contre l’Église … [↩]
The Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of MarySorry I can't seem to get the whole google translation to come out right. Just trying to docuмent in case it does disappear.QuoteGreat graces are attached to this consecration, Our Lady revealed to Sister Lucia. Has it been done so far?On July 20, 1926, Lucie was sent to the novitiate of Tuy, not far from the Portuguese border, to complete her postulancy. On October 2, 1926, she received the veil there, spent her two years of Novitiate there and made profession on October 3, 1928. On June 13, 1929, in this same convent, Our Lady came to ask her for the Consecration of Russia to her Immaculate Heart. . Let Sister Lucia describe this new and splendid vision to us [1] (https://laportelatine-org.translate.goog/actualite/la-consecration-de-la-russie-au-coeur-immacule-de-marie?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp#footnote_0_185333) :
“ I had asked for and obtained permission from my Superiors and my confessor to hold a Holy Hour, from eleven o'clock to midnight, on the night of Thursday to Friday. Finding myself thus alone, one night… the only light was that of the lamp (of the Most Blessed Sacrament) . Suddenly, the whole chapel was illuminated with a supernatural light, and on the altar appeared a cross of light, which rose to the ceiling. In a brighter light, we saw, on the upper part of the cross, the figure of a man, whose body we saw up to the belt, on his chest a dove, equally luminous and, nailed to the cross, another man's body. A little below the belt (of this one), suspended in the air, one saw a chalice and a large host, on which fell some drops of blood, which flowed on the cheeks of the crucified and from a wound in the chest. Flowing over the host, these drops fell into the chalice.
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Under the right arm of the cross was Our Lady; it was Our Lady of Fatima, with her Immaculate Heart in her left hand, without sword, nor roses, but with a crown of thorns and flames.
Under the left arm of the cross, large letters, as of crystalline water which would have flowed above the altar, formed these words: “Grace and Mercy”. I understood that the mystery of the Most Holy Trinity had been shown to me, and I received lights on this mystery which I am not permitted to reveal.
Then, Our Lady said to me: “The moment has come when God asks the Holy Father to make, in union with all the bishops of the world, the consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart. He promises to save her by this means.There are so many souls whom the justice of God condemns for sins committed against me, that I come to ask for reparation. Sacrifice yourself for this intention and pray. »The conditions of this Consecration of Russia are clear: that the pope consecrates Russia in particular and not the world in general and in union, at least morally, with the bishops of the whole world.On several occasions [2] (https://laportelatine-org.translate.goog/actualite/la-consecration-de-la-russie-au-coeur-immacule-de-marie?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp#footnote_1_185333) , Sister Lucy recalled these sine qua non conditions .I still hear the dear and indefatigable [4] Abbé Caillon tell me with emotion in the 1980s: “No , no Russia is still not consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary ”! We recognize all the same that the realization of these two conditions: consecration of Russia alone and the moral union of the Pope with the bishops, does not exceed human forces! However, Our Lady's request is still not fulfilled, as evidenced by this small painting: [/list]
- During an interview with Fr. Jongen, in Tuy, on February 3, 1946: “The Blessed Virgin asks for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, by the Pope, in union with all the bishops of the world”. “Did she not speak of the consecration of the world? " " No ".
- Fr. Mac Glynn, in February 1947, heard Sister Lucia forcefully repeat this specific request: “No! No ! Not the world! Russia, Russia!
- After the act of offering carried out on May 13, 1982 by John-Paul II, the visionary pointed out that Russia had not been the object of the consecration. Now, God wanted “the consecration of Russia and of Russia alone, without any addition”.
- In a letter addressed to Fr. Umberto Pasquale, dated April 13, 1980, she writes: “ Our Lady at Fatima, in her request, refers only to the consecration of Russia ”: “só se referece a consagração da Russia ”, as we can read below:
- In the two letters she wrote to Fr. Gonçalves, in May 1930, Sister Lucia specifies: “The Good Lord promises to put an end to the persecution in Russia, if the Holy Father deigns to do so, and orders [3 (https://laportelatine-org.translate.goog/actualite/la-consecration-de-la-russie-au-coeur-immacule-de-marie?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp#footnote_2_185333) ] of the Catholic world also to make a solemn and public act of reparation and consecration of Russia".
(http://data:image/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20viewBox%3D%220%200%20579%20122%22%20width%3D%22579%22%20height%3D%22122%22%20xmlns%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%22%3E%3C%2Fsvg%3E)J’entends encore le cher et infatigable [4] (https://laportelatine-org.translate.goog/actualite/la-consecration-de-la-russie-au-coeur-immacule-de-marie?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp#footnote_3_185333) abbé Caillon me dire avec émotion dans les années 1980 : « Non, non la Russie n’est toujours pas consacrée au Cœur Immaculé de Marie » ! Reconnaissons tout de même que la réalisation de ces deux conditions : consécration de la seule Russie et l’union morale du Pape avec les évêques, ne dépasse pas les forces humaines ! Pourtant, la demande de Notre Dame n’est toujours pas accomplie, comme en témoigne ce petit tableau :
- Dans les deux lettres qu’elle écrivit au P. Gonçalves, en mai 1930, Sœur Lucie précise : « Le Bon Dieu promet de mettre fin à la persécution en Russie, si le Saint-Père daigne faire, et ordonne [3] (https://laportelatine-org.translate.goog/actualite/la-consecration-de-la-russie-au-coeur-immacule-de-marie?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp#footnote_2_185333) aux évêques du monde catholique de faire également, un acte solennel et public de réparation et de consécration de la Russie ».
Pape Année Consécration Russie Solennellement Avec les
évêquesPie XI – – – – – Pie XII 1942 Oui Monde Oui Non Pie XII 1952 Oui Oui Non Non Jean XXIII – – – – – Paul VI 1964 Oui Monde Oui Non Jean-Paul Ier – – – – – Jean-Paul II 1982 Offrande Monde Oui Non Jean-Paul II 1984 Oui Monde… Oui Non Benoît XVI 2010 Oui Les prêtres Oui Non François 2013 Oui Monde Oui Non
must be admitted, with Brother François de Marie des Anges [5] (https://laportelatine-org.translate.goog/actualite/la-consecration-de-la-russie-au-coeur-immacule-de-marie?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp#footnote_4_185333) , that the consecration made by Pius XII in 1942 was not without fruit: " It is remarkable that the months which followed this solemn act marked the true turning point of the war that was coming to an end ". But at the same time, Stalin's communism was gaining in power and in 1945 several nations would be its victims.In August 1931, at Rianjo, Our Lord addressed these terrible words to Sister Lucia: " Let my ministers know, given that they are following the example of the King of France [6] (https://laportelatine-org.translate.goog/actualite/la-consecration-de-la-russie-au-coeur-immacule-de-marie?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp#footnote_5_185333) by delaying the execution of my request, that they will follow him into misfortune. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia, but it will be late .An objection perhaps comes to mind, dear reader: is not Russia now saved from communism? Wasn't the Berlin Wall destroyed? Hasn't Russian religious practice come out of hiding? President Putin, it is said, follows an annual retreat in an Orthodox monastery! We are no longer in the time of Lenin or Stalin!Yes, but is Russia Catholic? Didn't the collapse of the Berlin Wall also allow Western decadence and Protestant sects to penetrate Russia?There is nevertheless hope, because in our days there has appeared in Russia a strong, coherent and respected power, if not feared by other nations, which can only favor the marvelous fruits of the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart such as Our Lady of Fatima asked for it! Russia will then officially convert to the Catholic religion and will become a model Christian nation.When Fr. Alonso questioned Sister Lucy on the word of Our Lord the Pope will consecrate Russia but it will be late , the seer told him that " the consecration of Russia and also the final triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary which will follow are absolutely certain and will be realized in spite of all obstacles ”.
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Source : Fatima, le message pour notre temps (https://translate.google.com/website?sl=fr&tl=en&hl=en-US&client=webapp&u=http://www.chire.fr/A-204027-fatima-le-message-pour-notre-temps.aspx), éditions de Chiré.
Notes de bas de page
- Mémoires, Appendice n° 2.[↩ (https://laportelatine-org.translate.goog/actualite/la-consecration-de-la-russie-au-coeur-immacule-de-marie?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp#identifier_0_185333)]
- Frère François de Marie des Anges : Fatima, joie intime, événement mondial – Edition CRC, 2e édition revue et corrigée en décembre 1993. Cité par l’abbé Fabrice Delestre sur le site de La Porte Latine.[↩ (https://laportelatine-org.translate.goog/actualite/la-consecration-de-la-russie-au-coeur-immacule-de-marie?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp#identifier_1_185333)]
- Ce qui peut signifier que le Ciel accueillerait favorablement cette consécration même si l’autorité papale était très amoindrie.[↩ (https://laportelatine-org.translate.goog/actualite/la-consecration-de-la-russie-au-coeur-immacule-de-marie?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp#identifier_2_185333)]
- Le lecteur consultera avec profit l’ouvrage du Frère François de Marie des Anges, op. cit., qui rapporte avec quelle persévérance l’abbé Caillon a œuvré pour cette consécration, jusqu’à entrer plusieurs fois en contact avec le pape.[↩ (https://laportelatine-org.translate.goog/actualite/la-consecration-de-la-russie-au-coeur-immacule-de-marie?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp#identifier_3_185333)]
- Op. cit. p. 250.[↩ (https://laportelatine-org.translate.goog/actualite/la-consecration-de-la-russie-au-coeur-immacule-de-marie?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp#identifier_4_185333)]
- On June 17, 1689, Louis XIV refused to consecrate his kingdom to the Sacred Heart of Jesus as Saint Marguerite-Marie had asked him on behalf of Our Lord. As Brother François de Marie des Anges observes (op. cit. p. 217), on June 17, 1789, exactly a century later, the insurgent Third Estate proclaimed itself a Constituent Assembly, thus overthrowing the Monarchy. This was the beginning of the French Revolution with its doctrine of the Rights of Man without God and its atrocities against the Church… [ ↩ (https://laportelatine-org.translate.goog/actualite/la-consecration-de-la-russie-au-coeur-immacule-de-marie?_x_tr_sl=fr&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp#identifier_5_185333) ]