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Re: Contra Cekadam by Fr. Francois Chazal - Buy the book here!
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2018, 12:17:59 PM »
I wonder why he singled out Father Cekada by name.  There are other high-profile dogmatic sedevacantists out there, like +Sanborn.



Re: Contra Cekadam by Fr. Francois Chazal - Buy the book here!
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2018, 09:17:56 AM »
I wonder why he singled out Father Cekada by name.  There are other high-profile dogmatic sedevacantists out there, like +Sanborn.
That is right, in fact why are we not seeing a book titled Contra Francisco?  The SSPX and its spinoffs have always spent their efforts attacking the relatively small number of sedevacantists, when the true enemies of the Faith are simply allowed to walk about relatively unmolested.
Sedevacantists did not destroy the Church, The Vatican II criminals have done that and where do they apply their "resistance" efforts?...............right, sedevacantist.
I said this years ago, we need a real counter-revolutionary movement, not a "recognize and resistance" which serves to enable the perverted status quo to continue on in Christ's Church.

That is why I take little interest in the sede R&R debates. They simply aren't that important in the bigger picture. We have languished for over 60 years with the current modes of thought with endless analyses of what went wrong.  What are we going to do about it?
If it is our fault that this happened to the Church (I don't believe that to be entirely true at all), then is it not our fault, and even more so, that we have done nothing about it?

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Re: Contra Cekadam by Fr. Francois Chazal - Buy the book here!
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2018, 09:28:18 AM »
Sounds good and all, but what exactly do you have in mind? Are we to take page(s) out of the Muslims' handbook? They are quite fervent. They want to kill and blow up their enemies for Allah.

I appreciate your sentiment, but I fail to see what we can actually do that hasn't already been tried and/or accomplished by mainstream (i.e., "thought of it before oh-so-special-you") Traditional Catholics over the past decades.

How do you deal with the problem of the modern world, which is always there, always tempting, always influencing the people who live in it? That is the real problem.

How do you forcefully wake up the majority of Conciliar duped Catholics? They want comfort, acceptance by the world, they live by emotion. If they were plopped in 1930 they would probably "leave" rather than "take" the Faith, because many of them are only there for the inclusivity, multiculturalism, feminism, sappy songs, hand holding, lack of moral demands, etc.

We've had tabloid "Look at what the pope has done NOW! Ugh!" Traditio and Novus Ordo Watch websites for years. That strategy apparently doesn't work.

Are you suggesting that if we all became sedevacantist (stopped being afraid of the label, etc.) and started sharing N.O.W. links with all our friends, eventually people would wake up? I say the opposite needs to happen. More teaching, more converting people to Tradition, more retreats, more books, more good example, more one-on-one with people after Mass -- and less worrying about what the Popes/"popes" are doing. Let the dead bury their dead. Shake the dust off your feet already. N.O.W. can't seem to do that.

Obsession with the abuses of the Novus Ordo is a sign of a NEW convert to Tradition. I suppose that helps some people harden their resolve. But for the more mature Trad, it's time to move beyond such wastes-of-time.


Re: Contra Cekadam by Fr. Francois Chazal - Buy the book here!
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2018, 09:34:18 AM »

I said this years ago, we need a real counter-revolutionary movement, not a "recognize and resistance" which serves to enable the perverted status quo to continue on in Christ's Church.

That is why I take little interest in the sede R&R debates. They simply aren't that important in the bigger picture. We have languished for over 60 years with the current modes of thought with endless analyses of what went wrong.  What are we going to do about it?

If it is our fault that this happened to the Church (I don't believe that to be entirely true at all), then is it not our fault, and even more so, that we have done nothing about it?
Many have asked you what your thoughts are specifically and you have not delineated them.  Wouldn't you think having a solution to present is better than adding to your list its not working?