Many of you wail and moan constantly about this or that person who needs to "see the light" that there's no pope.  My question is, if they "see the light", then what?

What would change?

For one important point we would be UNIFIED, remember learning about the 4 Fours of the Church, ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC.

Oneness would be a good thing, sorry you don't agree or it means very little to you.  

So may I ask you a question, who does Fr. Chazal expect to consecrate Russia for him, and why hasn't one of his conciliar popes done so, they had what 50 - 60 years to do so, depending on your starting point of time.  

Answer that Fr. Chazal or any SSPXer!

Or are you waiting for a True Pope to come around and do it, as WE ARE?  

Alright, so you think that trads would be united. What kind of change would that in itself bring about?

And answering a question with a question doesn't really provide an answer, regarding the Pope and the Consecration of Russia.

I did find a short interview online, where Fr. Cekada sort of address the question of how the consecration of Russia by a Pope would happen without a Pope. He basically says that it's not a relevant question, because private revelation cannot be used as a starting point for anything theological. At least that's how I interpret the interview. In other words, he didn't really address it.

"For one important point we would be UNIFIED, remember learning about the 4 Fours of the Church, ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC."

You're likely to take flack for this due, again most likely, to a failure to make a distinction re: "unity".

The Church IS one, but there is such a thing as external unity etc. To say that She isn't NOW is Conciliar "thinking", and, well, heretical. How does a thing become what it already is? A mother is a mother. She is not yet mother of child (y) which has not yet been conceived.

Nor does Fr. Chazal ... at least we are united in that we wait for a True Pope to do the consecration.  

I hate being a sedevacantist as well, for I wish we had a True Pope.  I pray each day for people that will die this day for I fear for them since the Church seems to be in eclipse, hidden and hard to find, WE NEED A POPE TO UNITE US

"Principle of Unity"

and bring us out of the woods. Protestants laugh at Catholics today when they hear Francis.  How can we convert them when he represents the True Church.  

Don't you mean "if"? We don't convert anyone anyway, ultimately. If people want the truth, then they'll have it. Francis can be blamed for offering scandal as yet another endless excuse. He can't be blamed if people don't convert, because if they will, then God will, no matter what lies the likes of Francis promulgates.

If I could have my prayer answered one way over the other, I would prefer UNITY through a TRUE POPE rather than UNITY through all Traditionals being sedevacantist,

There is unity. Good to remember. Unity of the faith. Even at the times of the apostles it surely wasn't all hugs and bunnies with the flock. The "kids" fought, scrapped, moaned, groaned and whined then just as now. That doesn't mean that there is no unity. The Church is one, even if the kids are brats. Sedevacantism is what is left with the application of Occam and Holmes. That doesn't mean that non-Sedes aren't Catholic. That doesn't mean that they are either. Being a Sede doesn't make one Catholic either. Perhaps on different or lesser principle an Atheist could be a Sedevacantist in the sense that they can follow natural reason to a conclusion, applying Catholic matter to logical form.

as I tried to answer that question for Pax the best I can when he asked what would change if we were all sede.

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Also, when I was younger I thought very little about telling a lie, but then about 10 years ago or so, I read a Catholic book that God hates even what some call a "little white lie", it is like causing His cross to be so much heavier.  After that, I think twice about even a teasing lie.  Which is why I refuse to even use a user name. (not to say it is wrong to use a user name)  I also have found people much more polite when they use their own name.  These people that come back here over and over again with a different name are also liars in my book.  

Making mistakes is one thing but to tell a lie is so evil in the eyes of God no matter how small.  

Without opening yet another "Flat-earth" can of worms, just one degree deviance on an plot over time makes a huge difference between being on the correct heading, and wondering why everyone in Utah is speaking Arabic and sporting Hajjiwear.