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Contra Cekadam - Against Sedevacantism - back in stock!
« on: December 09, 2019, 09:04:34 PM »
Contra Cekadam - Against Sedevacantism - back in stock!
by Fr. Chazal

https://www.chantcd.com/index.php/Contra-Cekadam

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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2019, 10:21:04 PM »
At the risk of being accused of returning ad hominem, who here knows what "chazal" is?

Hint: search "define chazal."

I am not making an accusation, but merely noting a coincidence.

You seem kind of ignorant about the Church Fathers. Have you not heard of old works, written in Latin of course, by the Church Fathers, targeting specific heresiarchs and individuals? The format was "Contra _____".  Contra Celsum, Contra Faustum, etc.
Fr. Chazal, being an educated man, was obviously shooting for a sort of homage to the Church Fathers way of dealing with controversies.
No one would accuse the Church Fathers, many of them canonized saints, of committing the logical fallacy of "ad hominem" just because they mentioned an individual in the very title of their works.

Your book review is highly suspect of being partisan Sedevacantist opinion. High on generalizations, completely absent of any examples or substance.

But then again, I would expect a book that thoroughly trashes Sedevacantism to make a sedevacantist mad. Especially a choleric sedevacantist like yourself.

Give me a break. You don't get to choose your last name. Maybe if he picked that for the name of his company or something you might have some substance to your not-so-subtle insinuation.

Is everyone last name "Moor" or "Moore" a crypto Muslim? Or is it just a last name, which might have had a connection or relevance hundreds of years ago. Are we to judge people superficially by their last names now, rather than their words and actions over a period of many decades? Seriously?

You really see a Jew behind every bush don't you? I pity someone like you, afraid of his own shadow, encrypting every email and phone call because you think (((they))) are out to get you. What a waste of life! I'd rather die in a FEMA cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρ then spend my whole life cowering in fear, checking every room I enter with a electronic bug sweeper, taping over every camera lens, darting my eyes from side to side each time I enter a room, etc. I refuse to spend 50-75% of my brain capacity and free time on INFOSEC or information security (and other similar military acronyms), which is your full time obsession.

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Chazal or Ḥazal (Hebrew: חז״ל), an acronym for the Hebrew "Ḥakhameinu Zikhronam Liv'rakha" ( חכמינו זכרונם לברכה, "Our Sages, may their memory be blessed"), refers to all Jєωιѕн sages of the Mishna, Tosefta and тαℓмυd eras, spanning from the times of the final 300 years of the Second Temple of Jerusalem until the 7th...

You post a lot of good stuff against the Jєωιѕн conspiracy, but you, my friend, are a bit too paranoid. If you really had something to fear from (((them))), then people like Bishop Williamson (and maybe even myself) would already be dead. I've been running a public forum with all kinds of info on their cօռspιʀαcιҽs, for 13 years now.

I can appreciate being careful about one's privacy, but you take it to a whole new level! I don't know who you think is after little-old-you, but you really come across as paranoid.
Here is your favorite Linux distribution that you posted in another thread. As a server admin and web developer, I understand what all that stuff is, and how unnecessary it is for the average person. Encrypting your boot and swap partitions? Seriously?



I'm actually not surprised that you're a sedevacantist. Sedevacantism is the second-to-last stop on the subway line to home-aloneism and despair. It is the lowest rung on the ladder of trust -- for those who have lost all trust.


Re: Contra Cekadam - Against Sedevacantism - back in stock!
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2019, 11:37:47 PM »
Give me a break. You don't get to choose your last name. Maybe if he picked that for the name of his company or something you might have some substance to your not-so-subtle insinuation.

Is everyone last name "Moor" or "Moore" a crypto Muslim? Or is it just a last name, which might have had a connection or relevance hundreds of years ago. Are we to judge people superficially by their last names now, rather than their words and actions over a period of many decades? Seriously?

You really see a Jew behind every bush don't you? I pity someone like you, afraid of his own shadow, encrypting every email and phone call because you think (((they))) are out to get you. What a waste of life! I'd rather die in a FEMA cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρ then spend my whole life cowering in fear, checking every room I enter with a electronic bug sweeper, taping over every camera lens, darting my eyes from side to side each time I enter a room, etc. I refuse to spend 50-75% of my brain capacity and free time on INFOSEC or information security (and other similar military acronyms), which is your full time obsession.

You post a lot of good stuff against the Jєωιѕн conspiracy, but you, my friend, are a bit too paranoid. If you really had something to fear from (((them))), then people like Bishop Williamson (and maybe even myself) would already be dead. I've been running a public forum with all kinds of info on their cօռspιʀαcιҽs, for 13 years now.

I can appreciate being careful about one's privacy, but you take it to a whole new level! I don't know who you think is after little-old-you, but you really come across as paranoid.
Here is your favorite Linux distribution that you posted in another thread. As a server admin and web developer, I understand what all that stuff is, and how unnecessary it is for the average person. Encrypting your boot and swap partitions? Seriously?



I'm actually not surprised that you're a sedevacantist. Sedevacantism is the second-to-last stop on the subway line to home-aloneism and despair. It is the lowest rung on the ladder of trust -- for those who have lost all trust.
I'm not a Sede.  I don't agree with them.  But why would it lead to home aloneism or despair?  

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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2019, 11:41:27 PM »
I'm not a Sede.  I don't agree with them.  But why would it lead to home aloneism or despair?  
It's not just the belief that the Chair is empty. It always includes the belief that the institutional Church has failed as well (structure, authority, Cardinals, bishops worldwide, etc.)
They reduce their world of "Catholic" to 1 (maybe 2) bishops in their group, a handful of priests. They are one disagreement away from leaving that group, and then what do you have?
They don't really have an endgame for how we ever get another pope, either.
That simplistic solution (100% of the Conciliar Church, all its priests, all its bishops, all its members, right in the trash can) can come back to bite you.

I see a 20 page thread on Sedevacantism coming.
So to those of you tempted -- don't even think about it! ;)
You can start however many threads in the Crisis subforum you want.

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Re: Contra Cekadam - Against Sedevacantism - back in stock!
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2019, 12:30:40 PM »
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