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Offline PAT317

Re: Conciliarists Passing SSPX on the Right?
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2020, 05:30:21 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on May 08, 2020, 04:15:10 PM
I actually believe that the outrageous heresies and irreverence of one Jorge Bergoglio have been instrumental in waking up some of those in the Conciliar Church ... whereas JP2 and B16 lulled them to sleep.

Once your mind breaks free from the Conciliar paradigm and you see the first crack, you begin digging deeper.  It was like my experience with 9/11.  It woke me up to the broader world of government control and conspiracy.

When these men truly understand the heresies of Begoglio, they'll look back and find that they were already there in B16 and JP2.
Exactly.  Well said.  We should be pleased to see some of them coming around.  Vigano has already spoken critically of VII.

"When these men truly understand the heresies of Begoglio, they'll look back and find that they were already there in B16 and JP2."
Taylor Marshall did this to some extent.  In a video with Patrick Coffin & Tim G., they were talking about red-pilling on Francis, and at one point Marshall says something like, "And do you find that it's retroactive?", saying how he's started to find & realize there were problems with those previous two.  
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Offline Struthio

Re: Conciliarists Passing SSPX on the Right?
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2020, 06:01:07 PM »
The controlled opposition of A. Schneider got fortification. Don't trust them modernist lying heretics.

Müller wrote blasphemies about the resurrection and other topics. Don't fall for these destroyers of the faith. They didn't say anything when PVI, JPII, BXVI, or FI called for world authority and government. 
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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Conciliarists Passing SSPX on the Right?
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2020, 06:15:15 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on May 08, 2020, 04:15:10 PM
I actually believe that the outrageous heresies and irreverence of one Jorge Bergoglio have been instrumental in waking up some of those in the Conciliar Church ... whereas JP2 and B16 lulled them to sleep.


How is this appeal and petition evidence of this? This appeal is for Catholics and "all people of goodwill".  This appeal discusses the unalienable rights of (all) citizens, including freedom of worship.  How is this not another form of ecuмenism? This just sounds like another Vatican II docuмent that mixes in a drop of Catholicism to make it sound legit.  
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Conciliarists Passing SSPX on the Right?
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2020, 06:28:12 PM »
Quote from: 2Vermont on May 08, 2020, 06:15:15 PM
How is this appeal and petition evidence of this? This appeal is for Catholics and "all people of goodwill".  This appeal discusses the unalienable rights of (all) citizens, including freedom of worship.  How is this not another form of ecuмenism? This just sounds like another Vatican II docuмent that mixes in a drop of Catholicism to make it sound legit.  

It's because I noticed that many of the prelates who signed it have also been the ones vocal in criticizing Bergoglio.  Once they start seeing the light, they start being more and more Catholic about other issues as well.  Eventually, by God's grace, it could lead them back to the source of all this error ... Vatican II.
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Offline ByzCat3000

Re: Conciliarists Passing SSPX on the Right?
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2020, 10:22:22 PM »
Quote from: 2Vermont on May 08, 2020, 08:37:17 AM
Hmmm.  This is coming from Vatican II pastors.  Is this a new ecuмencial movement?
Presumably, any non sede is going to see "Vatican II pastors" as still being in a different category from those who don't even profess to be Catholic.  
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