Author Topic: Communiqu of the General House of the Society of St. Pius X (Read 24616 times)

hollingsworth · « **Reply #35 on:** March 20, 2015, 09:00:26 PM »

I would like someone, anyone, to come up with a comment or statement from Bp. Fellay, in the years prior to Bp. Williamson's expulsion, in which the former took issue with, or was at cross purposes with +Williamson, because of the latter's alleged "violent criticisms of any relations with Roman authorities." Is +Fellay, perhaps, referring to H.E.'s criticisms of the 'April 15 Declaration' or of the 'Six Conditions' coming out of the 2012 General Chapter? If so, there were a number of Fellay's own confreres, including Bp. Tissier, who were critical of them.

Stubborn · « **Reply #36 on:** March 21, 2015, 09:41:17 AM »

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I would like someone, anyone, to come up with a comment or statement from Bp. Fellay, in the years prior to Bp. Williamson's expulsion, in which the former took issue with, or was at cross purposes with +Williamson, because of the latter's alleged "violent criticisms of any relations with Roman authorities." Is +Fellay, perhaps, referring to H.E.'s criticisms of the 'April 15 Declaration' or of the 'Six Conditions' coming out of the 2012 General Chapter? If so, there were a number of Fellay's own confreres, including Bp. Tissier, who were critical of them.

At this point, it's a moot point.
If anyone had any doubt about the direction +Fellay is leading "his" SSPX, or were holding on to the hope that perhaps the Resistance was somehow an over reaction, this Communique just obliterated any thinking along those lines and validates the Resistance beyond any doubt.

While it is a sad awakening for SSPXers, long time SSPXers should see by this Communique, that there can be no more doubt about the intentions of the SSPX and the direction they are heading.

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The Society of St. Pius X denounces this episcopal consecration of Father Faure, which, despite the assertions of both clerics concerned, is not at all comparable to the consecrations of 1988. All the declarations of Bishop Williamson and Fr. Faure prove abundantly that they no longer recognize the Roman authorities, except in a purely rhetorical manner.

The Society of St. Pius X still maintains that the present state of necessity renders legitimate its action throughout the world, without denying the legitimate authority of those for whom it continues to pray at every Mass.

Dam bunch of lying hypocrites.

To denounce the actions of +Williamson is to lie about maintaining that their own (SSPX's) actions remain legitimate. To lie about their own mission's legitimacy is to say they have already made their deal with the conciliar crooks, either by handshake or in writing, it really doesn't matter, the deal is done even if it isn't finalized officially.

Personally, this makes me very angry because as one of the original members of the SSPX, I held out a glimmer of hope, but no more. I guess I fooled myself long enough.

hollingsworth · « **Reply #37 on:** March 21, 2015, 11:09:19 AM »

I guess the point I'm trying to make is this: Originally, the dispute which arose between Bp. Fellay and Bp. Williamson, or if you like, the bad blood that began to exist visibly between them, or better yet, the apparent 'distancing' of one from the other, had nothing really to do with +Williamson's vehement criticism of "Roman authorities, or his refusal to give proper recognition and respect to them. No, all the nasty stuff hit the fan immediately after H.E. gave his infamous interview, assuring the whole world that not one jew was popped into a "gas chamber." Had Williamson simply conceded that 6 million of the Chosen were gassed; another 6 million were shot and dumped into open graves; and that perhaps another 4 million or so were electrocuted, then, undoubtedly, Fellay would have made no statement publicly rebuking the claim. He would not have breathed a word of correction publicly to Der Spiegel. He might have gotten his fellow bishop aside thereafter in order to inform the latter that he had slightly exaggerated. But you can bet that the SG would have taken no disciplinary action against him. +Williamson would probably have remained in La Reja to this day. No, had the interview gone that way, H.E. would be a Society bishop in good standing still.
It was all about the jews then. It is all about the jews now. It is my opinion that most of the decisions which +Fellay takes these days are in close consultation and cooperation with basically hidden Tribal entities.

JPaul · « **Reply #38 on:** March 21, 2015, 11:40:01 AM »

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I guess the point I'm trying to make is this: Originally, the dispute which arose between Bp. Fellay and Bp. Williamson, or if you like, the bad blood that began to exist visibly between them, or better yet, the apparent 'distancing' of one from the other, had nothing really to do with +Williamson's vehement criticism of "Roman authorities, or his refusal to give proper recognition and respect to them. No, all the nasty stuff hit the fan immediately after H.E. gave his infamous interview, assuring the whole world that not one jew was popped into a "gas chamber." Had Williamson simply conceded that 6 million of the Chosen were gassed; another 6 million were shot and dumped into open graves; and that perhaps another 4 million or so were electrocuted, then, undoubtedly, Fellay would have made no statement publicly rebuking the claim. He would not have breathed a word of correction publicly to Der Spiegel. He might have gotten his fellow bishop aside thereafter in order to inform the latter that he had slightly exaggerated. But you can bet that the SG would have taken no disciplinary action against him. +Williamson would probably have remained in La Reja to this day. No, had the interview gone that way, H.E. would be a Society bishop in good standing still.
It was all about the jews then. It is all about the jews now. It is my opinion that most of the decisions which +Fellay takes these days are in close consultation and cooperation with basically hidden Tribal entities.

Don't forget the 3 million lampshades, and 1.5 million soap bars............

Think, shortly after Max Krah came on the scene, Bishop Fellay came out of the proverbial closet, and showed his true colors by energetically joining the Jews in savaging Bishop Williamson and attacking his good name.

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It was all about the jews then. It is all about the jews now. It is my opinion that most of the decisions which +Fellay takes these days are in close consultation and cooperation with basically hidden Tribal entities.

Absolutely! And not just him. Rome is kneeling at the foot of the Jews, and it is they who will influence the disposition of the Society and what further attacks and penalties will be levied against Bishop Williamson and Bishop Faure.

I have said a number of times that the Society is gone. The resistance so called and its Bishops need to turn the page and move on into their own destiny and calling under their own banner.

Matthew · « **Reply #39 on:** March 21, 2015, 11:48:36 AM »

Good point about making it official.

Anyone in the "Bishop Fellay hasn't done anything" or "there wasn't an agreement yet" camp needs to open their eyes.

Here you have the SSPX condemning a "Traditional Survival"-motivated consecration! An event that is IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY IDENTICAL with the "Operation Survival" consecrations back in 1988.

Anyone actually interested in learning the truth of the matter should pay attention to how the SSPX views this recent consecration. How do they distinguish themselves?

Because however they distinguish themselves from this consecration is exactly how they are distinguishing themselves from the +ABL's old SSPX.

My argument goes like this:

The +Faure consecration and the 1988 consecrations are essentially the same.
But the SSPX condemns the Faure consecration.
Therefore the SSPX condemns the 1988 consecrations as well.

But the 1988 consecrations are an essential element of the traditional resistance (to Modernism) of the Society of St. Pius X.
Therefore the SSPX has changed in some way.