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Offline Stubborn

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« on: January 15, 2013, 05:38:05 PM »
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  • http://www.lefebvrethemovie.org/  and  http://www.lefebvrethemovie.org/screenings.html

    I might go to a theater for the first time since Passion of the Christ!
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


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    « Reply #1 on: January 15, 2013, 05:48:04 PM »
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  • The official trailer

    Very nice.
    "Never will anyone who says his Rosary every day become a formal heretic ... This is a statement I would sign in my blood." St. Montfort, Secret of the Rosary. I support the FSSP, the SSPX and other priests who work for the restoration of doctrinal orthodoxy and liturgical orthopraxis in the Church. I accept Vatican II if interpreted in the light of Tradition and canonisations as an infallible declaration that a person is in Heaven. Sedevacantism is schismatic and Ecclesiavacantism is heretical.


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    « Reply #2 on: January 15, 2013, 06:53:59 PM »
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  • Sorry for being cynical, but if Bp. Fellay commissioned the movie, I'm betting he'll re-write +ABL's history.

    Did you notice the conspicuous SSPX "Donate" link ?





    Msgr. Fellay has continually used +ABL's holy image as a prop to give credibility to his Consiliar sell-out.

    Surely, Msgr. Fellay's film will ban +ABL's 238 Sermons (which Bp. Fellay copy-righted) and anything else politically incorrect to newRome.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #3 on: January 15, 2013, 07:22:18 PM »
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  • Most of it will probably include stuff that +ABL said before the 1988 consecrations.

    Just my prediction.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,

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    « Reply #4 on: January 15, 2013, 07:22:26 PM »
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  • Quote from: Incredulous
    Sorry for being cynical, but if Bp. Fellay commissioned the movie, I'm betting he'll re-write +ABL's history.


    I agree, I had actually feared the same thing. There are certain parts of +ABL's life that Bishop Fellay would have to "cut out", otherwise their stance would be proven wrong.

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    Msgr. Fellay has continually used +ABL's holy image as a prop to give credibility to his Consiliar sell-out.


    Right again.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


    Offline Neil Obstat

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    « Reply #5 on: January 16, 2013, 12:15:13 AM »
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  • I spent a few weeks last year hoping that the movie was going to be a
    Godsend for our tired and dreary world.  Pro hac lacrymarum valle.

    Their hoped-for release date was pushed back, and then disappeared.

    But then the +Fellayisms started to emerge, slowly, like indigestion...

    When the GC hit the fan, I knew we were in for some trouble, and the
    news of the Rothchild endowment fund put any expectations I had had
    for the Movie on permanent ice.  Now, it would be nothing short of a
    miracle for any movie to be made that truly depicts what ABL went
    through, to the bitter end.

    And I do mean bitter.

    There's no doubt in my mind that he died a most edifying death.  And this is
    especially so given the vacuous expectation that his most holy life will be
    recognized properly by the Holy See, whose job it is to do so.  

    No, instead we get Jose-Maria Escriva and John XXIII and JPII --
    for crying out loud to heaven for some kind of justice here!  

    I've seen it in the eyes of those who are happy to be in league with
    the post-Conciliar demolition derby.  "And I understand, now, he is a
    blessed."  I have two conflicting and troublesome emotions:  respect
    and pity.  

    What a world! No wonder the children of Fatima wore a chain or a rope
    around their abdomens.

    I hope someone with a decent sense of reality had access to the cutting
    room floor before the Monster made sure the good clips were destroyed.

    If they were really hungry for money, they would issue a "second scene"
    edition with a collection of all the deleted parts.  But that would expose
    their lies, wouldn't it?  So that's not going to happen.


    The movie will be worth seeing, even if +Fellay has ruined it by making it
    into a propaganda piece, like a nαzι film would be.  But it won't be very
    enjoyable.   It would be good for a penance.  Too bad the price of
    admission won't go to a worthy cause.


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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    « Reply #6 on: January 16, 2013, 06:25:32 AM »
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  • (From the source website)

    about the docuмentary

    To begin with, the life of Archbishop Lefebvre paints a fascinating story of a contemporary churchman born to a French Catholic family who abandoned all to become an African missionary. From a simple missionary he was appointed a bishop by Pope Pius XII, named Apostolic Delegate to French speaking Africa, and was elected the Superior General of the Holy Ghost Fathers, at the time the world’s largest missionary congregation.  He was also named to the Preparatory Commission for the Second Vatican Council by Pope John XXIII, and played an active role in that same Council, to say nothing of the post-conciliar period. The full story of this man’s life has never before been told through the medium of film.

    Because it is scarcely possible to describe the history of the Church in Africa without mentioning him, or to describe accurately the Second Vatican Council and its aftermath without discussing his role, we decided it was time to create a docuмentary that captured the life of this defining churchman.

    We are convinced that the objective and timely approach to this subject is one which will interest Catholics across the theological, political, and social spectrums, especially as it includes archival photographs and video footage rarely seen before. On top of this, the creators of the docuмentary traveled the globe to interview many of the bishops, priests, and lay faithful who knew or crossed paths with Archbishop Lefebvre, including interviews with his remaining siblings about his childhood. The story has never before been told in this way, or with this wealth of first-hand information.



    .........if only that could be a complete and objective description...........



    It may be left up to some of the members here to put the whole thing into
    the context of whether the opportunity of this movie was turned into an
    opportunity to promote making a 'deal' with modernist Rome.  But we'll
    have to wait and see the film first.  It wouldn't be fair to review it before
    we see it.  We are not the ADL.   And no, I don't mean Activities of Daily
    Living or Advanced Distributed Learning.  The movie promises to be a
    good description of the Archbishop's early life, if perhaps a bit filtered,
    but as for the last 5 years of same, you can be quite sure it will be
    conspicuously silent on certain key topics.  Will it even mention the 88
    consecrations?  And if it does, will it make them look like merely a
    forerunner to the "inevitable recognition and regularization of the future?"
    Will the miracle of the SSPX somehow seem to become morphed into
    the ostensible "miracle" of Our Lady in answer to the Rosary Crusade of
    +Fellay that gives us the "miracle" of the lifting of the (non-existent)
    excoms and the so-called freeing of the Mass (which is not free -- like the
    lumber in even the finest of lumber yards)?  Or, which is more likely,
    will the story end at the end of the protagonist's life, with narry a mention
    of anything historically significant in his final 4 years, such as how
    providential it was for all the world that he made the fateful decision to
    do the Episcopal Consecrations before he had lost the physical and/or
    mental stamina to do so?

    I defer to the history we have of all of the many movies made about the
    life of St. Padre Pio.  There is only one movie that does him justice, and it
    was a movie that never made it to theater distribution.  In fact, I was
    privileged to attend the ONLY screening it was allowed to have in the
    continental USA, thanks to the tight controls of same by certain
    anti-Catholic forces within the movie industry.  (To those on the "inside"
    that would be simply "The Industry," as if there is no other.  Let me put it
    this way:  for them, TI is NOT Texas Instruments.)  

    BTW, while it is true that this incomparably great film was made for Italian
    TV, and you will get that canard just about everywhere you look to
    research it, the fact remains, that the director in person came to Hollywood
    that day, and I was there, and he told us (the audience) a story that gives
    a bit of a "different" slant to it.  He had desired to give it worldwide
    distribution as a movie but was blocked in numerous ways beyond his
    control by mysterious forces the likes of which plagued the production of
    the film and even the very screening that we were witnessing in person.  

    The projectors in the theater were in good repair, and the technicians were
    capable, but the movie simply would not play.  And then, without any
    explanation, at the last possible moment, beyond which the screening
    would have had to have been canceled due to scheduling concerns (there
    would already be a nervous crowd that would be forming outside when we
    would leave the theater, who was anxious about their own access to the
    theater for the next film), suddenly everything was fine, and the movie
    played without a hitch.  Mr. Carlei assured us that this very same kind of
    thing had went on all during his numerous scene filming days in the field,
    which had caused him innumerable inconveniences and scheduling
    problems, beyond his wildest imagination, something that he not only had
    never experienced before in any of his other numerous films, but neither
    had any of his peers ever seen anything like it.  It was, in a word,
    preternatural.

    The movie was made in Italian, and I recommend getting the original in
    Italian with English subtitles,
    because the sound effects are much better
    and the voices are much more convincing than the voice-over edition.  It is
    titled "Padre Pio Miracle Man" and it is directed by Carlo Carlei, a very
    accomplished director
    who fairly endured a kind of conversion himself
    by the making of the film.  He made a personal appearance at the solitary
    screening in Hollywood, CA, in the Millenium Year 12 years ago, an event
    that was marred by a postponement by a half hour of the time the doors
    opened when the mulling crowd outside was allowed to come in to the
    small theater and find a seat.  After the crowd was seated for about 15
    minutes and there began to be a stir of anticipation and anxiety, Mr. Carlei
    himself stood up in the front, having emerged from an undisclosed
    entrance, and gave a very compelling 15 minute description in impeccable
    English with a charming Italian accent, of the cause of the delay, and its
    general relevance in context of the making and distribution of the film
    itself.  The crowd was quite appreciative.  It was nearly a sell-out
    audience, mostly consisting of people who were Italian because an Italian
    movie organization had advertised the screening in select venues.  That is
    to say, some of the viewers were not even Catholic, and perhaps some
    were not even religiously minded.  But nobody could be there and remain
    entirely ignorant of how something very inexplicable (by any and all
    scientific means) was going on, because we were experiencing it as we
    sat there!
    I believe that showing changed a few lives that day.  It did
    mine.  I can now say I saw a quasi-miracle of Padre Pio happen.  Certainly
    it was a very odd phenomenon under the auspices of this very holy man.

    I wonder if ABL's movie will change any lives?  I hope it does........


    One website with some interesting blog posts is this one, the last post
    of which mentions a new iPhone app as follows (time stamped 5 days ago):


    Sacred texts: Vatican embraces iTunes prayer book
    5 days ago
    VATICAN CITY (AP) — The Vatican is endorsing new technology that brings the book of daily prayers used by priests straight onto iPhones.
    The Vatican's Pontifical Council for Social Communications is embracing the iBreviary, an iTunes application created by a technologically savvy Italian priest, the Rev. Paolo Padrini, and an Italian Web designer.
    The application includes the Breviary prayer book — in Italian, English, Spanish, French and Latin and, in the near future, Portuguese and German. Another section includes the prayers of the daily Mass, and a third contains various other prayers.
    After a free trial period in which the iBreviary was downloaded approximately 10,000 times in Italy, an official version was released earlier this month, Padrini said.
    The application costs euro0.79 ($1.10), while upgrades will be free. Padrini's proceeds are going to charity.

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    Offline Capt McQuigg

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    « Reply #7 on: January 16, 2013, 06:40:43 AM »
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  • This movie was announced in the St Louis SSPX Chapel on Sunday.  It's being shown on 24 February here.  

    I'm excited to see it.  


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    « Reply #8 on: January 16, 2013, 07:02:09 AM »
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  • Regarding my post, above, that iPhones app from "5 days ago" may
    be 5 days prior to the post which may have been made in 2008.  

    But I'm not sure because a lot of the blog in in French and that may
    include key information on how the posts are dated.  Anyway, after
    looking around, it seems more likely that this "5 days ago" was
    actually 5 YEARS ago, in retrospect.  Sorry.  

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    « Reply #9 on: January 16, 2013, 01:18:22 PM »
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  • It will be very interesting to see how the Archbishop is presented in the film as the producer is none other than Jean-Jacques du Cray (aka Côme de Prévigny, aka Ennemond), who is also a member of GREC (since 2005) and, therefore, a convinced and militant accordista.

    I really do pray that it is a well-done and true presentation of the life of the sainted archbishop . . . we shall see. (I will have to wait for the DVD release as I do not live near one of the screening sites which are all near priories.)

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    « Reply #10 on: January 16, 2013, 01:45:33 PM »
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  • Quote from: ancien regime
    It will be very interesting to see how the Archbishop is presented in the film as the producer is none other than Jean-Jacques du Cray (aka Côme de Prévigny, aka Ennemond), who is also a member of GREC (since 2005) and, therefore, a convinced and militant accordista.


    The French edition ends with 3 text overlays.


    Sad to say two of them are dedicatet to Pope Benedict XVI.:








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    « Reply #11 on: January 16, 2013, 03:09:36 PM »
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  • If the other posts prove to be true we will be having a Fiftyism re-run of Doris Day's 1953 musical "Calamity Joe" soon.

    How does this sound:

    Marcel Lefebvre: Seminarian of the French Seminary in Rome, Missionary of the hOly Ghost in Africa,  Assistant to the Pontifical Throne, Apostolic Delegate to French-Speaking Africa, Member of the preparatory commission for the Second Vatican Council, Archbishop of Dakar, Bishop of Tulle, Superior General of the holy Ghost Fathers, Founder of the SSPX and Co-founder of the Sisters of the SSPX and the Oblate Sisters of the SSPX

    Richard Williamson: Convert, Degree from Cambridge University, Professor at Econe, Zaitskofen, Ridgefield, Rector of 2 seminaries, priest and bishop more than 36 years.

    Joseph Pfeiffer: Priest 18 years.
    Please pray for my soul.
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    « Reply #12 on: January 16, 2013, 03:12:27 PM »
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  • Quote from: curioustrad
    If the other posts prove to be true we will be having a Fiftyism re-run of Doris Day's 1953 musical "Calamity Joe" soon.


    Matthew-

    Who is this pest, and why is his presence tolerated on this forum?
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    « Reply #13 on: January 16, 2013, 03:18:04 PM »
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  • Quote from: Seraphim
    Quote from: curioustrad
    If the other posts prove to be true we will be having a Fiftyism re-run of Doris Day's 1953 musical "Calamity Joe" soon.


    Matthew-

    Who is this pest, and why is his presence tolerated on this forum?


    Is there anything factually wrong with the post ? Just stop and think before everybody jumps over a cliff !
    Please pray for my soul.
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    « Reply #14 on: January 16, 2013, 04:30:52 PM »
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  • Quote from: curioustrad
    Quote from: Seraphim
    Quote from: curioustrad
    If the other posts prove to be true we will be having a Fiftyism re-run of Doris Day's 1953 musical "Calamity Joe" soon.


    Matthew-

    Who is this pest, and why is his presence tolerated on this forum?


    Just stop and think before everybody jumps over a cliff !


    It seems like you (curioustrad) have made it your personal mission to "make people think" by spending an enormous amount of time in replying to virtually every thread in here to get your point across.

    If there are any problems, wrongdoings, discrepancies, or whatever with Fr. Pfeiffer as well as any of other Resistance priests, the TRUTH will always make itself apparent.
     
    Even if you had a remote chance of having any valid point, your negativity and  resorting to being a rabble-rouser whom obviously feeds on some sort of narcissistic "high" by attempting to incite the folks in here whom are simply trying to preserve our precious Faith, is all to no avail.

    It might have done you much good if would have spent 1/2 your time in prayer and meditation in attempting to get yourself closer to God, rather than spending all that time creating all this "drama" in here.

    Of course, I'm sure your pride won't allow anyone (whom doesn't get your point) in having the last word and my post will probably fuel your fire, but I'm hoping you would change your course.

    Your method seems very similar to Bp. Fellay's agenda of converting Rome (from within) back into tradition.