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Offline Croixalist

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Mr and Mrs Pfeiffer turned over property to Fr. Pfeiffer!
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2016, 03:21:41 PM »
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  • It's not obsession, it's called righteous indignation and justified outrage.

    But J.Paul brings up an interesting point.

    J.Paul wants to remind everyone that his inability to get to a traditional Mass is far more important than anything that Boston can come up with. In fact he'd probably leap to go to one of Pfeiffewko's Masses if he lived close enough. "Priorities", am I right J.Paul? It wouldn't matter to him if Pfeiffer had a schismatic Satanic cult surrounding him... a valid Mass is a valid Mass!!

    In other words, J.Paul is one of the most dangerously irresponsible people you'll ever meet because his narcissism drives him on to suppress healthy reactions to evil in others. If he were part of the Boston crew, you know he'd be a fulltime enforcer. He doesn't care how many women get assaulted, or how many people are financially swindled, or how many reputations sullied, or how many vocations ruined... Nobody's gonna take his Mass away!
     
    At the very least he's gonna tell everyone else to just shutup about it because he can't get to Mass!

    Nice move J.Paul. Way to feminize your resistance to the point of permitting the diabolic to get a hoof in the sacristy!
    Fortuna finem habet.


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    Mr and Mrs Pfeiffer turned over property to Fr. Pfeiffer!
    « Reply #16 on: May 30, 2016, 06:15:11 PM »
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  • Quote from: Croixalist
    It's not obsession, it's called righteous indignation and justified outrage.

    But J.Paul brings up an interesting point.

    J.Paul wants to remind everyone that his inability to get to a traditional Mass is far more important than anything that Boston can come up with. In fact he'd probably leap to go to one of Pfeiffewko's Masses if he lived close enough. "Priorities", am I right J.Paul? It wouldn't matter to him if Pfeiffer had a schismatic Satanic cult surrounding him... a valid Mass is a valid Mass!!

    In other words, J.Paul is one of the most dangerously irresponsible people you'll ever meet because his narcissism drives him on to suppress healthy reactions to evil in others. If he were part of the Boston crew, you know he'd be a fulltime enforcer. He doesn't care how many women get assaulted, or how many people are financially swindled, or how many reputations sullied, or how many vocations ruined... Nobody's gonna take his Mass away!
     
    At the very least he's gonna tell everyone else to just shutup about it because he can't get to Mass!

    Nice move J.Paul. Way to feminize your resistance to the point of permitting the diabolic to get a hoof in the sacristy!


    What a dishonorable and mean spirited response, sort of proves out what I said before.
    I have had the Pfeiffer crew in my area number of times and have declined all three times. So much for that fantasy.

    Page back to the Manuel Chavez period and see that I was as harsh and outraged as anyone about the goings on in Boston, here and on other fora
    So much for that fanciful imagining.

    No one is going to take my Mass away??? What reality are you in. I do not have an accessible Mass and probably never will. Do you think that is a funny subject, something to be ridiculed? Where is your Catholic sense man!

    I have told no no one to shut up only not to descend into the kind of bitterness and preoccupation which you have displayed here.

    Did you expect any thing different from the Boston situation or that it was going to go away or get better?

    Do you think this nonsensical slapstick is a show of Catholic masculinity?

    It is a sad commentary that this is what passes for Catholic behavior on CathInfo in these days.

    Lord have mercy on us
    Christ have mercy on us
    Lord have mercy on us
     


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    Mr and Mrs Pfeiffer turned over property to Fr. Pfeiffer!
    « Reply #17 on: May 30, 2016, 11:10:12 PM »
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    So as of right now, it is just gossip and speculation.   That should ring a bell before folks continue commenting and beside that, whose business is it, other than Joseph Pfeiffer's and his parent's?


    But no, it's not speculation. Just because they haven't filed the transaction yet (for example) doesn't mean my source is mistaken. I haven't looked into the requirements in Kentucky for filing real estate property transfers. Maybe someone who has more time could look this up?

    They would certainly need to make it official with the county/state if they wanted to mortgage the property (which is probably free and clear right now). I could see them wanting to do this. Use the property like a piggy bank! Imagine all the airfare Fr. Pfeiffer could get -- but more importantly, he could build a bunch of buildings and upgrade his pet seminary (we all know that seminary is his inordinate attachment).


    In KY deeds are recorded in the County Clerk's office--not the PVA.  PVA sends out property tax bills in the fall to owner of record (according to deeds in clerk's office) as of January 1.  Thus, the PVA office may only show Mr. & Mrs. Pfeiffer as owners until after 2016 tax bills go out this fall.  In any event, it takes some time for PVA to update records in some counties even after deeds are recorded in the clerk's office.  County clerk's in some counties have their records online and others do not.  I haven't checked whether Nelson County does or not.  What is recorded in the county clerk's office is definitive as to transfers and ownership.

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    Mr and Mrs Pfeiffer turned over property to Fr. Pfeiffer!
    « Reply #18 on: May 31, 2016, 10:23:47 AM »
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  • Quote from: J.Paul
    What a dishonorable and mean spirited response, sort of proves out what I said before.
    I have had the Pfeiffer crew in my area number of times and have declined all three times. So much for that fantasy.

    Page back to the Manuel Chavez period and see that I was as harsh and outraged as anyone about the goings on in Boston, here and on other fora
    So much for that fanciful imagining.

    No one is going to take my Mass away??? What reality are you in. I do not have an accessible Mass and probably never will. Do you think that is a funny subject, something to be ridiculed? Where is your Catholic sense man!

    I have told no no one to shut up only not to descend into the kind of bitterness and preoccupation which you have displayed here.

    Did you expect any thing different from the Boston situation or that it was going to go away or get better?

    Do you think this nonsensical slapstick is a show of Catholic masculinity?

    It is a sad commentary that this is what passes for Catholic behavior on CathInfo in these days.

    Lord have mercy on us
    Christ have mercy on us
    Lord have mercy on us
     


    You're right. I apologize for flying off the handle at you. Boston is a huge red button issue for me, and I should have given it awhile to cool off before posting. I was being irresponsible with my ad hominem attacks on you. That was unfair.

    It's true that this particular piece of information isn't going to bring down Boston by itself, nor will it be easy to verify without a direct quote from the Pfeiffers. Combine that with the fact that CathInfo has been burned before on bad information concerning Boston. It's always good to be cautious.

    However.

    Nothing short of a homicide investigation will ever bring an authority willing and capable of shutting the operation down from the outside. Everything else is up to us to sound the alarms over the place. What little the forum can do it will do and until Boston does get shutdown, there will never be enough outrage. We will keep getting stories like this and for the sake of those in the grip of the Chupacablos or about to send their life savings into their grubby little claws, we better get good loud and angry!

    It's literally the only thing putting a speed bump in their stride.

    I've got news for you about the Resistance: it's not that big! Every priest, family, and individual who falls into the Pfeiffer camp is a tragic loss. The odds of someone on this forum knowing at least one or most of these people is vastly higher than almost any other group I can think of. From the outside it was always a tough sell, but with Pfeiffer in the mix it keeps getting tougher. The more maniacal he gets, the more it will scare people away from tradition as a whole.

    But here is where you really lost me and where I lost my temper:

    Quote from: J.Paul
    ...Two priests and one Hernandez. Is this mainstream resistance so called, that weak that it needs to obsess on three misfits?

    ...These three are only so important and no more. They do not deserve to command so much attention.

    ...More prayers and less outrage would go a long way to restoring Catholic balance here.

    ...I do not see the need to beat Pfeiffer down so badly that he never rises again. That does seem to be what has been happening for months now. He is a minor player with few resources. That is how he should be treated.


    Here is the need: covering up at least one sɛҳuąƖ assault, allowing a non-priest to say his facsimile of the Latin Mass, and covering up for the obvious fraud exposed here, swindling at least one priest a considerable sum of money and nearly gobbling up said widow's entire savings.

    I'm glad you think that's small potatoes from a minor player, but it's just not true and I challenge anyone here to openly support that view.

    Regardless of what he may have been like in the past, this mogwai was fed after midnight a long time ago. We need to shed as much light on him as we possibly can. I severely doubt there's anything on this forum that rises to the very serious acts of sacrilege and skullduggery that have transpired over there.

    You say you were and are against it, then complain about the amount threads on Pfeiffer. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but did we or did we not just get word of Pablo putting the moves on an aspiring nun with Pfeiffer and Hewko doing everything they can to keep it going. If Pfeiffer thinks he's been beat down it's probably because someone didn't do the dishes for him.

    Do yourself a favor and start up a thread about the NO if you're concerned about the imbalance! That is presuming someone would be able to tell us what the correct percentage of threads is acceptable. When you break it down, I can't see where you're going with this aside from pointing a finger at everyone else when you ought to be hard at work following your own advice by either praying or creating an NO topic.

    Blaming lack of prayer is an easy out, it's a deflection. You don't know how much anyone here is praying outside of yourself, no one here really knows what it will take except God Himself and the Heavens above. We might as well blame Padre Pio for not praying more because it wasn't enough to prevent VII. All we know how to do is to fight this garbage wherever it presents itself. That includes prayer, fasting, spiritual/temporal acts of mercy, charity, and every other means available to us. How anyone can blame a Resistance Forum for too many threads on bad Resistance priests is ringing very hollow for me.
     
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    This whole resistance affair has become all too hostile and the cults of personalities much too partisan and abrasive. Look at the number of threads on this and following pages about Pfeiffer, and all to flay him for his faults.


    If you don't have the stomach for what must be done, then simply sit this one out. You don't have to read and contribute to every thread there is but when discussion threads are really the only thing people have to get the word out there, what you're asking for is a deadly silence. As far as I'm concerned, let it become so unbearable that Pfeiffer is forced to close down for lack of funds and interest, or... wait for it... outrage!

    Quote from: Pope St. Pius X
    Kindness is for fools! They want them to be treated with oil, soap, and caresses but they ought to be beaten with fists! In a duel you don’t count or measure the blows, you strike as you can! War is not made with charity, it is a struggle a duel. If Our Lord were not terrible he would not have given an example in this too. See how he treated the Philistines, the sowers of error, the wolves in sheep’s clothing, the traitors in the temple. He scourged them with whips!


    Oh, but he was only talking about modernists so let's put the kid gloves back on for Pfeiffer!

    No.
    Fortuna finem habet.

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    « Reply #19 on: May 31, 2016, 11:22:11 AM »
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  • Here is the transfer deed itself.

    The PROOF everyone was looking for!

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    « Reply #20 on: May 31, 2016, 02:52:42 PM »
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  • Thank you Croix, and please accept my apology for reacting so quickly and harshly.  I too should have waited a day before responding.

    Anyway, I have had a number of incidences of flying off the handle at these folks.
    The worst is that all of these scandals need not have happened. A
    bit of humility and common sense could have corrected much if applied early on, but that was lost to them.

    Now as to this current issue, it really does seem that this certainly qualifies for a law enforcement intervention or at least an investigation.

    If the parents have been somehow tricked or abused then there are usually county agencies of adult protection who immediately jump on these kinds of allegations.

    Have the women in question reported this to the authorities?

    I think that OLMC will wither on the vine as not much new support is coming there way and remember that they continue to somehow damage themselves and scuttle their own enterprise daily,.
    But if they are doing so much damage to the larger resistance, then whoever claims the title of authority in the resistance, That would be Bishop Williamson, I assume, needs to stand up jointly with his other Bishops and what priests there are, as officially as possible disavow the and make clear that their resistance is limited to them and that they are in no way represent the mainstream resistance.

    This has to made clear to the faithful and the reinforced as long as these problems continue. I have dealt extensively with some of their supporters who are downright fanatical in the defense of them. My main point is that they are getting so much attention, with so many multiple threads attacking them that it is easier for them to convince the wavering that it is them against the world and the devil.

    We both know that is how this has been spun. Words and pages on a forum are not going to stop this. Complaints to the proper authorities might.

    I will make a better effort to avoid miscommunication in the future, otherwise I do not disagree with what you are saying.

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    « Reply #21 on: May 31, 2016, 05:47:36 PM »
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    Thank you Croix, and please accept my apology for reacting so quickly and harshly.  I too should have waited a day before responding.


    You didn't have to but thank you just the same.

    It would be nice if Bishop Williamson would directly address the issue. It would be an absolute miracle if law enforcement got involved too. Like Al Capone, I don't care if it's for tax evasion, just get these guys off the street!


    God Bless.

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    Here is the transfer deed itself.

    The PROOF everyone was looking for!



    Boom. Well that settles that!
    Fortuna finem habet.