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Offline Matto

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Re: Church Militant TV
« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2021, 04:47:21 PM »
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  • From what it seems, the folks at Church Militant are liars. But there does seem to be sodomy smoke within the SSPX. I have heard about that Uritogoity guy and that Sloniker fellow and rumors of sodomy among the laity, but CM is trying to paint a picture far worse. If only we had honest reporters to do this investigation.
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    Re: Church Militant TV
    « Reply #31 on: March 09, 2021, 04:53:34 PM »
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  • What strikes me listening to Palmquist, and other ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, is that somewhere along the line they stop seeing their temptations as temptations. At some point ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity becomes who they are.
      I think most people on this forum define themselves by the Faith, or at least try to, and view everything through that. Has anyone ever seen an interview or known a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, particularly a Catholic, who has identified that moment when they chose?

    That’s it.

    They willingly cross the line of their human nature and identify it as a time of liberation.  They embrace the sin crying to Heaven for justice.

    They’re blinded to understand their true enslavement.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Church Militant TV
    « Reply #32 on: March 11, 2021, 07:25:49 AM »
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  • From what it seems, the folks at Church Militant are liars. But there does seem to be sơdơmy smoke within the SSPX. I have heard about that Uritogoity guy and that Sloniker fellow and rumors of sơdơmy among the laity, but CM is trying to paint a picture far worse. If only we had honest reporters to do this investigation.
    No question they have an axe to grind against the SSPX, especially now, when Marcel Lefebvre absolutely looks like he had 20:20 vision in 1971 and 1988.
    I fail to see how any honest person looking at the state of the Church today can conclude that Lefebvre was wrong to consecrate 4 Bishops.  Had he not done that it would be game over.  There is no way Francis would tolerate a Latin Rite chapter in the Church opposing him.
    Sloniker was a layman.  I don't see that the SSPX can peak into every truck he drives and snoop into the private life of the people who attend mass.  Neither can any organisation have half of its staff policing the other half.  There has to be a level of trust to operate a company, an army or a priestly society.  What army has been to war without some women getting raped by some evil soldiers.  Does not mean the army was bad or the war was unjust.  The right thing to do is shoot those soldiers by firing squad.
    Carlos Urrutigoity was a very egregious case as was the priest in Belgium who raped small children but for different reasons.  Urrutigoity because he was re-accepted after a warning (should never have taken that risk) and the Belgian priest because they knew and should have drummed him out.
    You are going to get sodomy everywhere, whatever organisation you set up.  Sodomites are liars and they will tell the seminary director what he wants to hear.  The issue is not really sodomites, unless you are wilfully inviting them to join or have no net to even attempt to filter them out.
    The worst aspect by FAR of the situation is that these priests were not exposed, handed to the police and jailed once the evidence was clear.


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    Re: Church Militant TV
    « Reply #33 on: March 11, 2021, 10:48:21 AM »
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    Neither can any organisation have half of its staff policing the other half.  There has to be a level of trust to operate a company, an army or a priestly society.  What army has been to war without some women getting raped by some evil soldiers.  Does not mean the army was bad or the war was unjust.  The right thing to do is shoot those soldiers by firing squad.

    Sorry, no cigar.  It is not a question at this point of "policing"  errant Society priests or misbehaving laity.  Most of the cases involving pervert SSPX priests and laity were, (and are), known by the SSPX leaders right up to the top.  Far from being shot by "firing squad," great pains have been taken by the Society to cover up and hide them away.  Only when forced by the investigative reporting of CM were a few of these priests turned over to the authorities.  Only when parents of abused children stepped forward and loudly complained was any action taken to expose and correct the situation.
    The Society has, at all costs, endeavored to protect a false image of traditional Catholic probity, completely separated from the corrupt New Church mainstream. Most of the SSPX faithful had no idea, for decades, that these evil things were going on until Michael Voris and Christine Niles began to expose them in April of 2020. 
    Matto recognizes the "smoke of sodomy."  He admits it openly.  But, alas, he goes on to complain, "If only we had honest reporters to do this investigation."  I see nothing dishonest in CM reporting.  If there is dishonest reporting going on here, then, personally, I would like to know about it in order to stand corrected.

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    Re: Church Militant TV
    « Reply #34 on: March 11, 2021, 10:55:29 AM »
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  • Palmquist basically says that the entire Church Militant piece about him was a pack of lies, a narrative they spun to give a false impression and to fuel their agenda, that they totally lack journalistic integrity ... which most of us already knew, but he backed that up with details
    hollingsworth said: I see nothing dishonest in CM reporting.  If there is dishonest reporting going on here, then, personally, I would like to know about it in order to stand corrected.

    I didn't watch the interview but read Lad's short summary.
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    Re: Church Militant TV
    « Reply #35 on: March 11, 2021, 11:01:13 AM »
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  • That’s it.

    They willingly cross the line of their human nature and identify it as a time of liberation.  They embrace the sin crying to Heaven for justice.

    They’re blinded to understand their true enslavement.

    Yes, he seemed very happy ... outwardly ... as if this huge burden of having to fight or "suppress" his ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ urges had been lifted.  He THINKS he's free, but it's quite the opposite.  Perhaps he should talk to Milo or Voris.

    Sounds as if he's also lost his faith, or, rather, he's "suppressed" it in order not to have it nagging his conscience.

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    Re: Church Militant TV
    « Reply #36 on: March 11, 2021, 11:05:23 AM »
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  • I see nothing dishonest in CM reporting.  If there is dishonest reporting going on here, then, personally, I would like to know about it in order to stand corrected.

    Did you even watch the Palmquist video?  He asserts that nearly all of it is wrong and was clearly spun to serve their agenda.  He's no friend of the SSPX and wasn't defending them, focusing solely on Voris' report about him.

    Voris reported that the rector and staff at STAS KNEW about Palmquist's ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity ... which Palmquit categorically denies.  He said he spent his entire time there "suppressing" his urges and showed no open signs of it.  He discussed it with his spiritual director, but rectors do not make ordination decisions based on internal forum (Confession or spiritual direction).

    So Palmquist rejects the VERY POINT of the Voris piece.  It wasn't primarily about:  "hey a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ got ordained" but, rather, "the SSPX KNOWINGLY ORDAINED a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ."  So the entire point he was trying to make re: Palmquist simply collapses.


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    Re: Church Militant TV
    « Reply #37 on: March 11, 2021, 12:02:22 PM »
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    Sloniker was a layman.  I don't see that the SSPX can peak into every truck he drives and snoop into the private life of the people who attend mass.
    Kevin was booted out of the novitiate for trying to circuмcise himself.  That bit of information should have been passed down to the priests at the sspx chapel he attended.  Instead, they made him head of the altar boys and then sent him off to the boys' camp as a counselor.

    He clearly was a disturbed young man and not fit for any of these positions of trust.


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    Re: Church Militant TV
    « Reply #38 on: March 11, 2021, 12:41:34 PM »
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  • I see nothing dishonest in CM reporting.  If there is dishonest reporting going on here, then, personally, I would like to know about it in order to stand corrected.
    Could you please read this thread again and watch Palmquist's video. Palmquist denies numerous things Michael Voris said in the video. Almost everything in Voris' video, actually.

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    Re: Church Militant TV
    « Reply #39 on: March 11, 2021, 01:10:01 PM »
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  • Here is a rather long excerpt from Palmquist's video, in which he explains the dishonesty of Church Militant:
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    This so-called news agency that is called Church Militant, which is a very interesting name, they found out about my story within a few weeks after starting my social media. [...] One of their goals is to attack that community that I was a part of. So when they found out that I had left, they probably thought they would find some juicy info. I was part of the ranks. I was a priest, so I could probably give them some information that would help fuel their attacks. And especially when they found out that I was now an openly gαy person, they thought, "Perfect!" because one of their main attacks towards the community that I was a part of is abuse of minors by the priests, and they make a connection between those people who are predators and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs being allowed to become priests. One of the journalists, Miss Christine Niles, she came to me in a message that I will put up here. She asked me questions that were obviously leading questions. They wanted me to say that, "Oh, it's not your fault. It's the superiors' fault that allowed you, a poor, poor ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ man to go through, to become a priest. Isn't that right? Didn't the priests know that you were ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, and they let you go anyway?" She never mentioned that she was a journalist. She never mentioned her intentions. [...] I thought, "Oh, that's a very interesting question to ask me." And then I looked on her page and realized who she was and who she worked for. Church Militant. And of course at that point I had practically zero trust for people in general but specifically for people that were a part of that world, the traditional Catholic world. I declined to respond, and she immediately said that I was "defending my community." Whatever. I brushed it off. A few months later Miss Christine Niles hosts this on her social medias. [...]
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    Everything that she asked me in that initial contact, that I declined to answer, in this video Michael Voris (another character) uses the questions and my non-response as the truth.

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    Re: Church Militant TV
    « Reply #40 on: March 11, 2021, 01:37:47 PM »
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  • I feel very sorry for this young man.  He's to be pitied more than anything else.

    He feels free?   You go from being a validly ordained priest to living with your male lover in Mexico and running a tattoo parlor, and that's freedom?  He feels free because satan and his minions have left him alone.

    Well, like Michael Davies used to say, it's an opinion.

    Have a Mass said for him.  I will too.


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    Re: Church Militant TV
    « Reply #41 on: March 11, 2021, 02:04:07 PM »
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  • I feel very sorry for this young man.  He's to be pitied more than anything else.

    The Bible says they're worthy of death not pity.

    Romans 1:26-32

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    Re: Church Militant TV
    « Reply #42 on: March 11, 2021, 05:16:44 PM »
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  • The Bible says they're worthy of death not pity.

    Romans 1:26-32
    You're to be pitied too.

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    Re: Church Militant TV
    « Reply #43 on: March 11, 2021, 05:23:18 PM »
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  • The Crisis in The Church has shown us there are wolves in sheep’s clothing everywhere.
    If individual Priests were known only for saying Mass and giving the Sacraments, then perhaps these naive souls would stop putting them on pedestals as if anyone in a cassock is a ‘perfect living Saint’. This is misplaced trust that is causing this problem and not the cover-up (which is despicable btw)

    DON’T send your children and teens on retreats or pilgrimages alone or without you there to watch them.
    DON’T become overly familiar or get cozy in a friendship with these men just because they're wearing a white collar.
    Priests are NOT GOD, they are fallible men that make mistakes. (Or worse, some are predators that are hiding out in the prime locations to find their victims)

    While I’ve personally had the privilege to meet many good and holy priests over the years, I know they aren’t Saints until after they are dead, buried, and declared one by The Church.
    Good advice. 
    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: Church Militant TV
    « Reply #44 on: March 11, 2021, 07:07:34 PM »
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  • I feel very sorry for this young man.  He's to be pitied more than anything else.

    He feels free?   You go from being a validly ordained priest to living with your male lover in Mexico and running a tattoo parlor, and that's freedom?  He feels free because satan and his minions have left him alone.

    Well, like Michael Davies used to say, it's an opinion.

    Have a Mass said for him.  I will too.

    Yes, he is to be pitied, and having a mass said for him is a good idea.

    I too question his feeling of freedom. It may feel like freedom now, but later he may realize that the homo lifestyle is a dead end. Maybe he hasn't seen the seedier side of the homo lifestyle, since he's been somewhat sheltered. But he'll probably see it one of these days, and then reality will set in. It might take awhile though.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29