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Offline Seraphina

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Children of Traditional Catholics Leaving the Faith
« on: August 27, 2019, 12:01:37 AM »
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  • Are there any reliable statistics on the numbers of children raised in tradition who leave the Faith upon reaching adulthood?  Ages 18, 21, moving out of parents’ home, or moving away to an area without ready access to TLM?  
    From what I’ve observed personally, it seems the large majority lose the faith and become “not religious.”


    Offline Alan

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    Re: Children of Traditional Catholics Leaving the Faith
    « Reply #1 on: August 27, 2019, 08:13:12 AM »
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  • Are there any reliable statistics on the numbers of children raised in tradition who leave the Faith upon reaching adulthood?  Ages 18, 21, moving out of parents’ home, or moving away to an area without ready access to TLM?  
    From what I’ve observed personally, it seems the large majority lose the faith and become “not religious.”

    You need the actual statistics before making the conclusion. 
    The actual situation might not be as bad as you think.


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    Re: Children of Traditional Catholics Leaving the Faith
    « Reply #2 on: August 27, 2019, 08:18:16 AM »
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  • Are there any reliable statistics on the numbers of children raised in tradition who leave the Faith upon reaching adulthood?  Ages 18, 21, moving out of parents’ home, or moving away to an area without ready access to TLM?  
    From what I’ve observed personally, it seems the large majority lose the faith and become “not religious.”
    The SSPX have an article on this subject, along with the various factors that influenced it(devoutness of the father, whether parents stayed together, membership of a religious youth group, etc.). I'll see if I can dig it up. 

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    Re: Children of Traditional Catholics Leaving the Faith
    « Reply #3 on: August 27, 2019, 08:31:23 AM »
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  • Are there any reliable statistics on the numbers of children raised in tradition who leave the Faith upon reaching adulthood?  Ages 18, 21, moving out of parents’ home, or moving away to an area without ready access to TLM?  
    From what I’ve observed personally, it seems the large majority lose the faith and become “not religious.”

    That's been my personal experience as well.

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    Re: Children of Traditional Catholics Leaving the Faith
    « Reply #4 on: August 27, 2019, 11:20:27 AM »
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  • This has happened to my family.  The most effective apologists of the Faith left the Church for no religion and no God.  The grief my family has expressed reminds me of the sword that pierced the heart of Mary.  No one seems safe.  It's truly unbelievable.  


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    Re: Children of Traditional Catholics Leaving the Faith
    « Reply #5 on: August 27, 2019, 11:37:39 AM »
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  • The SSPX have an article on this subject, along with the various factors that influenced it(devoutness of the father, whether parents stayed together, membership of a religious youth group, etc.). I'll see if I can dig it up.
    I can't find it at all. Anyone else have any idea?

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    Re: Children of Traditional Catholics Leaving the Faith
    « Reply #6 on: August 27, 2019, 11:46:33 AM »
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  • This has happened to my family.  The most effective apologists of the Faith left the Church for no religion and no God.  The grief my family has expressed reminds me of the sword that pierced the heart of Mary.  No one seems safe.  It's truly unbelievable.  
    Sts. Peter and Paul were the most effective apologists of the Faith, yet St. John the Baptist is the greatest man that has ever lived (per the words of Christ).

    St. John the Forerunner not only preached on earth to the Jєωs to prepare the way of Christ, but he also preached in Hades to prepare for Christ's descent into Hades and His Glorious Ascent into Heaven at Pascha where Christ God broke open the doors of Hades and freed all those who accepted Him in repentance.

    The epistles of both Sts. Peter and Paul and their martyrdom are greatest testimonies of their love of Christ and His Holy Church. Reading the enduring words of the Bible is awesome.

    Look at some of the families in our Church, especially the parents of St. Basil the Great and that of the parents of St. Therese of Liseaux. Both parents became saints and all their children followed their good example and also became saints. The Samaritan Woman at the well, St. Photina, died a martyr's death along with all of her children at her side. She was forced to watch each of her children accept martyrdom before her own martyrdom.

    Today with the insidious Internet, satanic entertainment industry, perverse mainstream media, atheistic humanistic indoctrination in the schools and colleges, and widespread corruption and pedophilia in the Departments of Child Services, it is difficult for anyone to persevere in the faith. If we try to go off-grid in an attempt to save our children from this perverse world, then there is the risk of being reported to the civil authorities and of losing our children to their ungodly system.

    Come Lord Jesus and save us, for we perish.
    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Children of Traditional Catholics Leaving the Faith
    « Reply #7 on: August 27, 2019, 11:56:14 AM »
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  • This has happened to my family.  The most effective apologists of the Faith left the Church for no religion and no God.  The grief my family has expressed reminds me of the sword that pierced the heart of Mary.  No one seems safe.  It's truly unbelievable.  

    It's modern culture ... which is especially affecting girls.  Girls have this need to "be like everyone else" and will follow like lemmings into the fires of hell if necessary.  They want to dress and act and listen to music just like their peers do.  And they develop a resentment towards their parents, often their father in particular, and by extension the Church for which he speaks and stands in, for not allowing them to do so.  Girls have always needed the "shaming" of society to keep them in line.  Boys either keep on the straight and narrow because they have chosen to do right or they reject it because they want to do something wrong ... less from motives of social pressure.


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    Re: Children of Traditional Catholics Leaving the Faith
    « Reply #8 on: August 27, 2019, 12:05:16 PM »
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  • This has happened to my family.  The most effective apologists of the Faith left the Church for no religion and no God.  The grief my family has expressed reminds me of the sword that pierced the heart of Mary.  No one seems safe.  It's truly unbelievable.  
    Yes, it is very sad. Just know that the same afflictions befall the brethren all over the world. 1 Peter 5:9

    I know of families that have both situations, where most of the family lost the faith and others where all of them have (so far) kept the faith. It is so satisfying to see a whole family where all of the children are in their 20s - 30s still have the faith - I think that is such a huge blessing right from heaven.

    I wonder because it seems the sins of impurity are one of the biggest reasons to lose it for those who have abandoned the faith. They just forget everything they learned and leave to go to live with, or be with someone they were raised to know they could not even consider having. The older ones seem to love to go for the forbidden fruit - the divorcee.



     
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: Children of Traditional Catholics Leaving the Faith
    « Reply #9 on: August 27, 2019, 12:19:15 PM »
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  • It's unfair to target traditionals.  It's true they have less an excuse than a novus ordo teen, but most young people walk away from the faith.  It's the effects of original sin.

    Satan is very enticing.  He lures them by making them think they're being cheated from having a good time.  The "forbidden pleasures" that, once they partake of them, the scales fall from their eyes and they're forever wracked with guilt and remorse.  He always, but always and at every age, double-crosses his stooges.

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    Re: Children of Traditional Catholics Leaving the Faith
    « Reply #10 on: August 27, 2019, 12:23:09 PM »
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  • I guess our faith is simply not strong enough. Women are led by the crowd, but they are lead more strongly by their fathers and their brothers, and uncles, and grandfathers, their own blood. If the blood is hot they will persevere, if the blood is lukewarm they will follow the crowd and fall. I think this is why Catholic cultures are important. If the culture is Catholic then when the women follow the crowd they will be lead to God instead of the devil, but in the culture I live in, it is dangerous for a woman to even leave her house alone. Men are more able to be independent, but this could go both ways, they could be wicked in good times or good in wicked times.

    Are those thoughts good? Just my 2 cents.
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    Re: Children of Traditional Catholics Leaving the Faith
    « Reply #11 on: August 27, 2019, 12:26:27 PM »
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  • Regarding females, they're a disgrace.

    Most of them embarrass me.  

    Satan has done his job well in this world.


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    I just noticed my negative votes have risen overnight.

    Will the not so mature individual who is doing that get a grip?  I've posted nothing controversial lately.  Whoever is doing that must be reaching back in time.

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    Re: Children of Traditional Catholics Leaving the Faith
    « Reply #12 on: August 27, 2019, 02:50:53 PM »
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  • Regarding females, they're a disgrace.

    Most of them embarrass me.  

    Satan has done his job well in this world.


    EDIT:  
    I just noticed my negative votes have risen overnight.

    Will the not so mature individual who is doing that get a grip?  I've posted nothing controversial lately.  Whoever is doing that must be reaching back in time.
    I’ve had the same problem, some people on the forum are somewhat vindictive.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Children of Traditional Catholics Leaving the Faith
    « Reply #13 on: August 27, 2019, 03:14:43 PM »
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  • I’ve had the same problem, some people on the forum are somewhat vindictive.
    So I've noticed. 

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    Re: Children of Traditional Catholics Leaving the Faith
    « Reply #14 on: August 27, 2019, 03:34:09 PM »
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  • I came from the world and was caught up in it for well over half my life, I am very familiar with all of the tricks of the world. The only one parents that were totally successful and what I would model my actions from, had 11 children and all grown up and with children of their own, in other words they are grandparents.  I who am VERY experienced in the tricks of the world, thank God that he put that family in front of me all of these years, so I had a living example to remind me that I was correct in my actions.

    There are many reasons why people fail with the passing on the faith to the children:

    #1 - Overall, they do not have set goals as to what they want their children to be, nor do they think of how to accomplish it, nor do they look for examples to emulate and consult.

    They entrust it to a school, priest, catechism teachers
    They do not live the faith themselves, it is just the "beautiful Latin Mass" on Sundays
    They do not pay much attention to the children
    They let their girls ALONE to play with boys, flirt with boys, talk to boys, be alone with boys on "dates". Boys, boys, boys becomes their daughters total occupation.
    They let the children watch TV, movies, news, internet, all unsupervised
    Others can fill in...…………………...

    What I do have are MANY real world examples of what parents should NOT do, gathered from the parents I have known all of these years, some made a few mistakes, others swallowed camels!!
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24