Author Topic: Changes in the SSPX - present tense (Read 3926 times)

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #5 on:** January 11, 2017, 05:40:43 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

I noticed this too -- it's all "positive", borderline fluff now, just like TAN Books (which was bought by ~~a Novus Ordo~~ Protestant company in 2009, I might point out)

The company is Protestant.

Matthew · « **Reply #6 on:** January 11, 2017, 10:12:35 PM »

John McFarland wrote in and wanted me to know that many of the "classic" books are still in print.

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Fr. Peter Scott, Is Tradition Excommunicated? Where is Catholicism Today? A Collection of Independent Studies, 1993 LISTED

Fr. Stephen DeLallo, The Sword of Christendom: The work of Catholic Action to re-establish the reign of Christ the King, 1994 NOT LISTED

Fr. Kenneth Novak, Dr. Peter Chojnowski, Matthew Anger, Puritan’s Progress: A Catholic Perspective on American History, Volume 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 1996 NOT LISTED

Dom Paul Nau, O.S.B., Pope or Church? Essays on the Infallibility of the Ordinary Magisterium, 1996 LISTED

Fr. Alfred Roussel, Liberalism & Catholicism, 1998 NOT LISTED

Fr. Johannes Doermann, Pope John Paul II’s Theological Journey to the Prayer Meeting of Religions in Assisi, Part I NOT LISTED, Part II – Volume 1, 2, 3 LISTED

Priest, Where Is Thy Mass? Mass, Where Is Thy Priest?: Seventeen Independent Priests Tell Why They Celebrate the Latin Mass, 2004 NOT LISTED

From Ecuмenism to Silent Apostasy, 2006 LISTED

Fr. Matthias Gaudron, Catechism of the Crisis in the Church, 2010 LISTED

The collected writings of Carol Robinson and Ed Willock were also hallmarks of Angelus Press during its golden years in the 90s and 2000s. MY LIFE WITH THOMAS AQUINAS AND YE GODS: LISTED; INTEGRITY 1-4: LISTED

[P.S. +WILLIAMSON’S EDITIONS OF THE LIBERAL ILLUSION AND QUADRAGESIMO ANNO: LISTED]

He also asked if it was effeminate to be concerned with the spiritual life. Here is my response:

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I never said the words you quoted. It was pasted from another blog.

It's not that the spiritual life is effeminate -- it's that groups like the FSSP *only* have the so-called "spiritual" but they're missing the opposition to evil. Eventually, that will get them every time. Principles and doctrine are of primary importance.

If one ignores the spiritual life and just focuses on "the fight", you have Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer. That priest has had a sad fall from grace -- he is bitter, and has resorted to actual LYING and slander of fellow-priests -- mostly because of his mysterious attachment to the apostate "pablo the Amateur Exorcist".

I knew an extremely pious seminarian who is currently divorced (he married in the Novus Ordo), and for a while was even "dating" again. While married to his (novus ordo) wife, he delayed the baptism of his second child for something like 6 or 7 months -- like a typical novus ordite. That's what piety without doctrine gets you.

OldMerry · « **Reply #7 on:** January 11, 2017, 10:44:56 PM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis

I have a few family members who left tradition for the indult/Rome. They constantly talk about the 'good' and 'positive changes' that are happening in catholicism. This is all fine and dandy, but you can't ignore the 99 rotten apples on the apple tree and talk only about the 1 apple that is good enough to eat. They have a mental block on seeing reality as it is. Part of this mental block is self-inflicted. Part is propaganda. The sspx is years into their program of propaganda and change.

Suckers for the tricks of the Modernists. And no hatred of heresy. Pious frauds.

nctradcath · « **Reply #8 on:** January 12, 2017, 10:07:09 AM »

Quote from: Matthew

John McFarland wrote in and wanted me to know that many of the "classic" books are still in print.

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Fr. Peter Scott, Is Tradition Excommunicated? Where is Catholicism Today? A Collection of Independent Studies, 1993 LISTED

Fr. Stephen DeLallo, The Sword of Christendom: The work of Catholic Action to re-establish the reign of Christ the King, 1994 NOT LISTED

Fr. Kenneth Novak, Dr. Peter Chojnowski, Matthew Anger, Puritan’s Progress: A Catholic Perspective on American History, Volume 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 1996 NOT LISTED

Dom Paul Nau, O.S.B., Pope or Church? Essays on the Infallibility of the Ordinary Magisterium, 1996 LISTED

Fr. Alfred Roussel, Liberalism & Catholicism, 1998 NOT LISTED

Fr. Johannes Doermann, Pope John Paul II’s Theological Journey to the Prayer Meeting of Religions in Assisi, Part I NOT LISTED, Part II – Volume 1, 2, 3 LISTED

Priest, Where Is Thy Mass? Mass, Where Is Thy Priest?: Seventeen Independent Priests Tell Why They Celebrate the Latin Mass, 2004 NOT LISTED

From Ecuмenism to Silent Apostasy, 2006 LISTED

Fr. Matthias Gaudron, Catechism of the Crisis in the Church, 2010 LISTED

The collected writings of Carol Robinson and Ed Willock were also hallmarks of Angelus Press during its golden years in the 90s and 2000s. MY LIFE WITH THOMAS AQUINAS AND YE GODS: LISTED; INTEGRITY 1-4: LISTED

[P.S. +WILLIAMSON’S EDITIONS OF THE LIBERAL ILLUSION AND QUADRAGESIMO ANNO: LISTED]

He also asked if it was effeminate to be concerned with the spiritual life. Here is my response:

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I never said the words you quoted. It was pasted from another blog.

It's not that the spiritual life is effeminate -- it's that groups like the FSSP *only* have the so-called "spiritual" but they're missing the opposition to evil. Eventually, that will get them every time. Principles and doctrine are of primary importance.

If one ignores the spiritual life and just focuses on "the fight", you have Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer. That priest has had a sad fall from grace -- he is bitter, and has resorted to actual LYING and slander of fellow-priests -- mostly because of his mysterious attachment to the apostate "pablo the Amateur Exorcist".

I knew an extremely pious seminarian who is currently divorced (he married in the Novus Ordo), and for a while was even "dating" again. While married to his (novus ordo) wife, he delayed the baptism of his second child for something like 6 or 7 months -- like a typical novus ordite. That's what piety without doctrine gets you.

Dear Matthew,

How would you consider a divorced man pious? It seems that the man is suffering from satanic delusion? Wouldn't it be a pretend piety? I have no bone in the above argument, but I am curious.

Matthew · « **Reply #9 on:** January 12, 2017, 10:28:36 AM »

Quote from: nctradcath

How would you consider a divorced man pious? It seems that the man is suffering from satanic delusion? Wouldn't it be a pretend piety? I have no bone in the above argument, but I am curious.

I wouldn't -- I never said I did. That's my point. What good is a strong devotion to Padre Pio, spending hours in the chapel moving your lips silently, if you end up falling into heresy and error! This is the main problem with the Novus Ordo. They feed the hungry and are full of "luv", but 3/4 of them believe actual heresies (or fail to believe Catholic dogmas).

There is no possible way that can end well. Doctrine is the foundation of everything. Undermine doctrine, and eventually you won't have the nice externals either!

I think this is the fundamental key of what's wrong with attending the FSSP, SSPX, or other Indult groups. Today you would be fine. But how do you keep yourself safe from Modernist contagion, when you fail to maintain a state of war? It's impossible. Eventually, you will gingerly work your way into more and more "mainstream" areas of the Conciliar Church, until one day your children are giving the Handshake of Peace at a Novus Ordo service. Liberalism is a spirit. It's insidious that way.

Now even if they were only *material* heretics, it still will result in evil consequences. Heresy results in evils, whether you willfully embrace a heresy, or only hold it "materially" because you were poorly catechized.

When he was in his mid-twenties, he used to spend more time in the chapel than any of us. He was certainly stronger in the "piety" department than the "doctrine" department.

Now this young man SHOULD have known better. What, did he not believe in the necessity of baptism for salvation? Did he think being a human being would get his baby into heaven if it died in an accident? Catholics traditionally baptize their babies DAYS after birth, not months.

If you're too strong in the "doctrine" department and forget about piety and charity, then you end up like the Dimond brothers or Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer. That's not good either.

We need a balance of the two.