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Offline Zeitun

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« on: June 18, 2013, 01:09:38 PM »
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  • What are some things we as lay people can do to strengthen and build up the Resistance?  Is anyone trained in Catholic Action that can spearhead some organizing of activities?

    Maybe the first step is to set up a conference call where one person will facilitate and we start brainstorming ideas.  Or a net meeting if that works better.  I'm sure there are several fronts that groups can work on:

    --prayer warriors:  souls that will pray daily for the intentions of the Resistance

    --Resistance apologetics:  gentlemen with solid theological formation to develop sound and visually appealing apologetics materials that can be distributed online or in print (this would be with the approval of Fr. Pfeiffer)

    --communications and outreach:  don't laugh--"branding" of the Resistance with a cohesive and solidly traditional Catholic image and message (the opposite of a confederation)

    --fundraising:  activities and events to raise funds for the St. Marcel Initiative, the Resistance priests, the monks in Brazil, and any other groups trying to resist who have lost financial support from superiors

    --vendor management:  the acquistion and management of vendors/laity to volunteer their services and in some cases negotiate contracts

    --priest support:  in the spirit of St. Therese, putting together care packages of personal items, gift cards/certificates, and letters of encouragement

    --Bishop Williamson:  okay, this is an effort unto itself.  Obviously a strategy needs to be developed and a plan implemented to get him off his duff and back in the fight

    --education programs:  developing Catholic homeschool programs that are not affiliated with the SSPX, organizing family workshops, and sponsoring Ignatian retreats

    --lay support:  prayer and encouragement for those leaving the SSPX, mentoring on setting up a Resistance Mass location, transporation to a Mass location, and financial assistance for those being persecuted by the SSPX

    I am just a housewife and I have NO formal Catholic formation so don't shoot the messenger.  What I can offer is zeal and some business acumen from my former life.  Don't criticize and condemn--let's see the menfolk band together to get to work.

    Quit complaining about the Bish being complacent and then continuing to sit back.  Now is the time to ACT.

    Let me finish with these words which I pray you will reflect upon:

    "These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands it now deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered, yet we have this consolation with us that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph."

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    « Reply #1 on: June 18, 2013, 02:51:57 PM »
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    Zeitun, who is the author of the segment in red, above?  


    Did you write it?  It seems to me that you're treating the Resistance like
    it's some kind of separate entity with a kind of collective persona and
    innovative will of some kind.  Is this true?  What defines "the intentions
    of the Resistance" such that it would need prayers?

    -- And you want to promote a "branding" of the Resistance?  

    Are you serious?



    Or are you getting confused between politics and religion?  

    There is a political aspect to religion but you ought to be careful whose
    leadership you subscribe to.



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    « Reply #2 on: June 18, 2013, 02:59:34 PM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
    Zeitun, who is the author of the segment in red, above?  

    Thomas Paine
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_American_Crisis

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    « Reply #3 on: June 18, 2013, 03:00:30 PM »
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    Zeitun, who is the author of the segment in red, above?  

    Thomas Paine
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_American_Crisis


    I wasn't asking you, clare.  


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    « Reply #4 on: June 18, 2013, 03:24:11 PM »
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  • The point of the poem is to be inspired to take action.  


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    « Reply #5 on: June 18, 2013, 03:42:10 PM »
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  • Quote from: Zeitun
    "The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; ..."


    I might be reading this wrong, but this sure doesn't sound like someone who lives in my part of the world.  :cowboy:
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...

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    « Reply #6 on: June 18, 2013, 03:44:56 PM »
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  • --Bishop Williamson:  okay, this is an effort unto itself.  Obviously a strategy needs to be developed and a plan implemented . . .

    This is really uncalled for.  He just travelled to Asia.


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    « Reply #7 on: June 18, 2013, 03:46:32 PM »
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  • Quote from: clare
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    Zeitun, who is the author of the segment in red, above?  

    Thomas Paine
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_American_Crisis



    Thomas had some issues Mother Frump:  :smile:

    Thomas Paine

    In December 1793, he was arrested and imprisoned in Paris, then released in 1794. He became notorious because of The Age of Reason (1793–94), his book that advocates deism, promotes reason and freethinking, and argues against institutionalized religion in general and Christian doctrine in particular.

    He also wrote the pamphlet Agrarian Justice (1795), discussing the origins of property, and introduced the concept of a guaranteed minimum income.

    In 1802, he returned to America where he died on June 8, 1809. Only six people attended his funeral as he had been ostracized for his ridicule of Christianity.[6]
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    « Reply #8 on: June 18, 2013, 05:05:41 PM »
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  • Thomas Paine married his sister, too, if I recall.  Adopted sister, but still really creepy.
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    « Reply #9 on: June 18, 2013, 05:59:58 PM »
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  • Quote from: Incredulous
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    Zeitun, who is the author of the segment in red, above?  

    Thomas Paine
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_American_Crisis



    Thomas had some issues Mother Frump:  :smile:

    Thomas Paine

    In December 1793, he was arrested and imprisoned in Paris, then released in 1794. He became notorious because of The Age of Reason (1793–94), his book that advocates deism, promotes reason and freethinking, and argues against institutionalized religion in general and Christian doctrine in particular.

    He also wrote the pamphlet Agrarian Justice (1795), discussing the origins of property, and introduced the concept of a guaranteed minimum income.

    In 1802, he returned to America where he died on June 8, 1809. Only six people attended his funeral as he had been ostracized for his ridicule of Christianity.[6]




    I could say I didn't ask you either, Incred, but at least you're running
    the ball in the right direction!  


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    « Reply #10 on: June 18, 2013, 06:03:29 PM »
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  • Quote from: Zeitun
    The point of the poem is to be inspired to take action.  




    One should be most judicious from whom one acquires the inspiration
    to "take action" because the KIND of action one takes in a large measure
    can be derived from the spirit of the one who arouses the desire.  

    Have you ever heard of Americanism?  


    And, can you imagine that Thomas Paine, who 'inspires' you, was
    able to save his soul from hell?  



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    « Reply #11 on: June 18, 2013, 06:05:50 PM »
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  •  :pray: :light-saber:Here's something nearly anyone can do.  Be a prayer warrior in an intentional manner.  Remember the SSPX Prayers for Priests?  "Adopt" a Resistance priest or one who is still in the Society.  Pray one additional decade of your daily Rosary for a priest.
    p.s.  Forget about Thomas P.  He's long gone to his reward and his sayings aren't the point of Zeitun's post.
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

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    « Reply #12 on: June 18, 2013, 06:44:51 PM »
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    And, can you imagine that Thomas Paine, who 'inspires' you, was
    able to save his soul from hell?  



    Even heretics utter truth sometimes.

    So if any men aren't interested in forming some action groups....how about women?  


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    « Reply #13 on: June 18, 2013, 07:42:50 PM »
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    --Bishop Williamson:  okay, this is an effort unto itself.  Obviously a strategy needs to be developed and a plan implemented . . .

    This is really uncalled for.  He just travelled to Asia.



    I had to read that twice, that is really disrespectful. I didn't know about Asia and he has been all over the Americas this year. Plus he sends out a newsletter. I don't think we should be questioning even (or trying prove now) how he spends his time, my stomach hurts now.

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    « Reply #14 on: June 18, 2013, 07:47:31 PM »
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    Zeitun, who is the author of the segment in red, above?  

    Thomas Paine
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_American_Crisis


    I wasn't asking you, clare.  




    A bit uncharitable, Neil, don't you think?

     

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