Author Topic: CathInfo - an apostolate not a club (Read 7548 times)

Elizabeth · « **Reply #15 on:** September 14, 2013, 09:13:47 PM »

Quote from: Zeitun

You hypocrite! You were one of the gang of 4 who constantly perpetrated ad hominem attacks not just on IA members but on Resistance priests. Your attempts to ingratiate yourself to the moderators of this forum make me physically ill.

How many times have you said that Fr. Pfeiffer was insane? How many times did you slander DMarie?

I take comfort in the knowledge that you will reveal your true self very soon and be banned.

You would give yourself and Our Lord far more comfort if you made a good Confession for outright lying.

I never said Fr. Pfieffer is insane.

I never slandered Dawn Marie.

If I attempted to "ingratiate" myself with Matthew he would see right through it in a heartbeat He has seen the worst of me well before you came around here.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #16 on:** September 14, 2013, 09:34:06 PM »

Quote from: Novus Weirdo

I'm sure you also thought such Tradlodytes like Anthony Malleus, St Justin, DNF, and other IA 'regulars' acted as mild-mannered as Tardical. Of course, that was because IA was a Bizarro World Catholic forum. I recall your behavior on IA; it was often less than old lady like.

Nah, you are obviously not sure of anything, in your mis-representations and vitriol against the people you target.

On the cheery side, at least you admit to how mild-mannered Tradical is!

Elizabeth · « **Reply #17 on:** September 14, 2013, 09:42:07 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

If a woman will fake having visions from the Blessed Mother, then she's capable of pretty much anything. And if she'll cook up a massive scam like that -- would she lie about me or CathInfo?

I'll leave the reader to decide.

Some of us found out the hard way. She has loyal followers.

Johnnier · « **Reply #18 on:** September 15, 2013, 06:11:54 AM »

Matthew is correct. I think if one has a closed mind - one can tend to fall into the cultist mindset.

I think people have enough sense to see what is correct and make a basic judgment from the facts presented. At least one would hope :)

Zeitun · « **Reply #19 on:** September 15, 2013, 08:10:15 AM »

Quote from: Elizabeth

Quote from: Zeitun

You hypocrite! You were one of the gang of 4 who constantly perpetrated ad hominem attacks not just on IA members but on Resistance priests. Your attempts to ingratiate yourself to the moderators of this forum make me physically ill.

How many times have you said that Fr. Pfeiffer was insane? How many times did you slander DMarie?

I take comfort in the knowledge that you will reveal your true self very soon and be banned.

You would give yourself and Our Lord far more comfort if you made a good Confession for outright lying.

I never said Fr. Pfieffer is insane.

I never slandered Dawn Marie.

If I attempted to "ingratiate" myself with Matthew he would see right through it in a heartbeat He has seen the worst of me well before you came around here.

So I take it that you've had an epiphany and realize that Fr. Pfeiffer and the other Resistance priests are correct and Bishop Fellay is a modernist and no longer a Catholic and you've decided to support the Resistance?

Is that why you are here on the "official headquarters of the Resistance"?

Zeitun · « **Reply #20 on:** September 15, 2013, 08:19:09 AM »

Quote from: Matthew

I see we have another fight here --

One thing I'd like to interject is that dmarie is filled with the most INTENSE hatred of CathInfo, probably due to the fact that she was "outed" here a while ago.

Dmarie is the one who had the purported "visions" from the "blessed virgin" involving the SSPX Crisis. First she went to +Fellay, then to +Williamson, basically looking for whoever would believe her. She went online (IA, then CI) posing as someone who WASN'T the seer (because that's always more believable than the seer promoting herself, right?) but then it came out that the seer was none other than Dmarie herself!

She also had several accounts on CI -- a nice, trustworthy thing for the mouthpiece of the "blessed virgin" to do, right?

Long story short, she was outed, NOT banned, and she basically slunk away into the night. She stopped coming here, and stopped posting.

Fast-forward to today -- She is posting stuff so virulent, I couldn't come up with worse things to say about CathInfo if I spent hours brainstorming. But it's no wonder; she's still stinging from the humiliation of being exposed.

But come on! Who's fault is it, really? Is it my fault for running a Catholic forum, or Dmarie's for cooking up the sacrilegious scam to begin with?

If a woman will fake having visions from the Blessed Mother, then she's capable of pretty much anything. And if she'll cook up a massive scam like that -- would she lie about me or CathInfo?

I'll leave the reader to decide.

I'm not a "follower" of DMarie. I just hate slanderers who give themselves pious airs and play the "I'm a lady" card after oinking their unsolicited Oprah-like pontifications laced with vitriol.

And I especially hate Cluster B personalities who call Father Pfeiffer "mentally ill" and accuse the Resistance of staging a "take down" of that turncoat Bishop Tissier.

Novus Weirdo · « **Reply #21 on:** September 15, 2013, 09:08:52 AM »

Quote from: Matthew

I see we have another fight here --

One thing I'd like to interject is that dmarie is filled with the most INTENSE hatred of CathInfo, probably due to the fact that she was "outed" here a while ago.

Dmarie is the one who had the purported "visions" from the "blessed virgin" involving the SSPX Crisis. First she went to +Fellay, then to +Williamson, basically looking for whoever would believe her. She went online (IA, then CI) posing as someone who WASN'T the seer (because that's always more believable than the seer promoting herself, right?) but then it came out that the seer was none other than Dmarie herself!

She also had several accounts on CI -- a nice, trustworthy thing for the mouthpiece of the "blessed virgin" to do, right?

Long story short, she was outed, NOT banned, and she basically slunk away into the night. She stopped coming here, and stopped posting.

Fast-forward to today -- She is posting stuff so virulent, I couldn't come up with worse things to say about CathInfo if I spent hours brainstorming. But it's no wonder; she's still stinging from the humiliation of being exposed.

But come on! Who's fault is it, really? Is it my fault for running a Catholic forum, or Dmarie's for cooking up the sacrilegious scam to begin with?

If a woman will fake having visions from the Blessed Mother, then she's capable of pretty much anything. And if she'll cook up a massive scam like that -- would she lie about me or CathInfo?

I'll leave the reader to decide.

This reader had decided that you keep fights going in order to generate controversy in order to generate revenue. Is this a Catholic forum or is it your version of a "coffee shop"-meets-Thunderdome kind of operation?

Maybe you ought to add the disclaimer "For Entertainment Purposes Only."

John Grace · « **Reply #22 on:** September 15, 2013, 09:42:29 AM »

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This reader had decided that you keep fights going in order to generate controversy in order to generate revenue. Is this a Catholic forum or is it your version of a "coffee shop"-meets-Thunderdome kind of operation?

Maybe you ought to add the disclaimer "For Entertainment Purposes Only."

An interesting comment. As very few from Ireland bother with Cath Info, who really cares? Be consoled as even the SSPX youth group in Ireland snubbed Bishop Williamson during his 'Voice in the Wilderness' Conference. You even had men in their 40s heading off to the youth weekend instead of greeting the one chosen by the Archbishop.

stgobnait contributes nothing to the discussions here.

I stopped posting certain articles as there was little or no interest in the subject matter. I would argue no interest. I don't have the time and also I feel the likes of stgobnait should do more.

Like the English and Ashmolean, whom they have high regard for, these matters could be resolved offline.

Clare over at Ignis Ardens is correct. Do not take these forum or ourselves seriously.

John Grace · « **Reply #23 on:** September 15, 2013, 10:03:31 AM »

Whilst on the topic of Ashmolean he and I didn't speak when our paths crossed in June.

People are free to ignore me but I don't think people should speak badly of him. His concerns about various matters are unfounded. He is eccentric but there is no harm in that.

richard · « **Reply #24 on:** September 15, 2013, 12:17:51 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

I see we have another fight here --

One thing I'd like to interject is that dmarie is filled with the most INTENSE hatred of CathInfo, probably due to the fact that she was "outed" here a while ago.

Dmarie is the one who had the purported "visions" from the "blessed virgin" involving the SSPX Crisis. First she went to +Fellay, then to +Williamson, basically looking for whoever would believe her. She went online (IA, then CI) posing as someone who WASN'T the seer (because that's always more believable than the seer promoting herself, right?) but then it came out that the seer was none other than Dmarie herself!

She also had several accounts on CI -- a nice, trustworthy thing for the mouthpiece of the "blessed virgin" to do, right?

Long story short, she was outed, NOT banned, and she basically slunk away into the night. She stopped coming here, and stopped posting.

Fast-forward to today -- She is posting stuff so virulent, I couldn't come up with worse things to say about CathInfo if I spent hours brainstorming. But it's no wonder; she's still stinging from the humiliation of being exposed.

But come on! Who's fault is it, really? Is it my fault for running a Catholic forum, or Dmarie's for cooking up the sacrilegious scam to begin with?

If a woman will fake having visions from the Blessed Mother, then she's capable of pretty much anything. And if she'll cook up a massive scam like that -- would she lie about me or CathInfo?

I'll leave the reader to decide.

Matthew,how do you know she faked these visions,after all there has been no pronouncement one way or the other saying whether they were true or false.It seems to me that it would be prudent to keep silent until there has been something official put forth,or do you just not like DM?

Elizabeth · « **Reply #25 on:** September 15, 2013, 01:33:46 PM »

Quote from: Zeitun

... I just hate ...
And I especially hate...

I can't help wondering if it's the hatred that causes the lying, or if lying causes people to hate.

John Grace · « **Reply #26 on:** September 15, 2013, 01:45:43 PM »

Whilst not beyond criticism my own view is the criticism of Matthew and the forum is unfounded.

Unlike Ignis Ardens, with the exception of stgobnait nobody from Ireland ever bothers to use the forum.

English Trads regularly used IA and posted material.

Obviously aimed at an American audience the forum is deserving of being the Resistance HQ.

If Irish SSPX laity use Facebook why not assist with the Resistance forum?

What I found revealing is many Irish SSPX Facebook users 'like' the 'Against the Rumors" page, a pro-Bishop Fellay site. I haven't included the pro-deal folk, who obviously 'like' the site and will remain in SSPX chapels.

John Grace · « **Reply #27 on:** September 15, 2013, 01:51:12 PM »

To be anti Bishop Fellay doesn't mean one is pro-resistance.

1st Mansion Tenant · « **Reply #28 on:** September 15, 2013, 02:03:25 PM »

Matthew, I have to ask you: How can you judge so surely that Dawn Marie's visions were some kind of scam? I don't know if they were or not, or even what they entailed precisely, but it makes me think about the scoffers and persecutors of St Bernadette, the children of Fatima, and other saints. Even if the 'seer' isn't perfect, I would imagine Heaven can deign to speak to whomever it wants, and they aren't always perfect people. I am not a follower of visionaries of any kind that are not Church approved. Personally, if the BV were to visit me, I would think I was having some kind of stroke. But if it was persistent, I guess I would reluctantly have to tell somebody, knowing it would open me up for all kinds of cruelty and the kind of intense microscopic examination that few here could withstand. I can't believe anyone would purposely sign up for that unless they felt there was no other choice. And I am not sure how the whole "outing" thing came down, but if a person is speaking to clergy about a "personal revelation", or message from Heaven, or any other personal business, why would it be anyone's duty to "out" them?

John Grace · « **Reply #29 on:** September 15, 2013, 02:05:42 PM »

Quote from: John Grace

Whilst not beyond criticism my own view is the criticism of Matthew and the forum is unfounded.

Unlike Ignis Ardens, with the exception of stgobnait nobody from Ireland ever bothers to use the forum.

English Trads regularly used IA and posted material.

Obviously aimed at an American audience the forum is deserving of being the Resistance HQ.

If Irish SSPX laity use Facebook why not assist with the Resistance forum?

What I found revealing is many Irish SSPX Facebook users 'like' the 'Against the Rumors" page, a pro-Bishop Fellay site. I haven't included the pro-deal folk, who obviously 'like' the site and will remain in SSPX chapels.

I am happy to correct my comment as a quick glance at the names shows only the Fellayites 'like' the 'Against the Rumor' page.

My point remains though that very few Irish Trads use Cath Info. Is it fair comment though to conclude the Irish SSPX Youth group are against Bishop Williamson? Why arrange a youth outing the weekend of his conference?

Question to stgobnait

Any particular reason why folk in Ireland supported Patricia Mc Keever and still promote their literature.? She is against the resistance. She is an enemy of Bishop Williamson.