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Re: Catalog of Compromise, Change, and Contradiction in the SSPX
« Reply #25 on: February 24, 2019, 08:56:31 PM »
#25: Contradiction (Jedi Mind Trick: "Conciliar Church" or "Official Church"):

In recent years, the SSPX has sought to replace the use of the term "conciliar church" with a new term: the "official church."

Why?

Because for a hierarchy insistent on the hermeneutic of continuity, they cannot possibly "regularize" an SSPX which insists on the rupture which is suggested by distinguishing between the "conciliar church" and the "Catholic Church!"

After all, here is how Archbishop Lefebvre responded to the future Pope Benedict XVI's assertion that he was creating a new church:

"Cardinal Ratzinger repeated it many times, “But Monsignor, there is only one Church, you mustn’t make a parallel church.” I told him: "Your Eminence, it is not us who are forming a parallel Church, as we are continuing the Church of all times, it is you who are forming the parallel church for having invented the Church of the Council, which Cardinal Benelli called the Conciliar Church; it is you all who have invented a new church, not us, it is you who have made the new catechisms, new Sacraments, a new Mass, a new liturgy, not us. We continue to do what was done before. We are not the ones who are forming a new church."
-Econe Press Conference, 6/15/88: https://tradidi.com/semantic-treason-fr-billecocq-responds

How better to eradicate this distinction than to start replacing the use of the term "conciliar church" with "official church?"

Doing so has the exact opposite implication!

Fr. Gabriel Billecocq (SSPX) explains:

"Recently, in traditionalist Catholic circles, efforts have been made to impose the term official church instead of conciliar church. Of course, official is a good expression of the idea that we recognize that these bishops, though unworthy, occupy power, and this power, as such, we can only respect. But replacing conciliar with official is a serious ambiguity. For the traditionalist catholic, who does not recognize himself as a conciliarist and for good reason, must he now say that he does not recognize himself as an official catholic either? So the traditionalist catholic would no longer belong to the official church? Wouldn't he be fully Catholic then? But then which church would he belong to? To find out, one has to wonder what the official word is opposed to. Answer: unofficial, or hidden, clandestine, or patriotic. But then the traditional catholic does not recognize himself in any of them. Should we say that he belongs to the official church at the risk of being confused with the modernists? No. All that remains then is that he does not belong to the Church. And that's the reason why he's getting so desperate for recognition."
http://laportelatine.org/district/prieure/stnicol/Chardonnet/Chardonnet333_1712.pdf
[English translation: https://tradidi.com/semantic-treason-fr-billecocq-responds]

And again in the same article:

"In fact, this is a serious and very pernicious ambiguity. Replacing the term conciliar church by official church to apply it to modernists erases the distinction and opposition between traditional and conciliar. By erasing this distinction, one clearly diminishes the struggle of the faith at the risk of denying it and comes to make the traditionalist regret that he does not belong to any truly serious church, giving him the impression that he is not normal and therefore needs to seek normalization. This expression thus conceals the true illness of which the Church is afflicted, puts in a state of inferiority or complexity the true Catholic who has kept the faith and sacraments intact, and so one maintains a typically liberal confusion. In reality, the use of such a confused expression is already liberalism itself and is no longer truly Catholic..."
http://laportelatine.org/district/prieure/stnicol/Chardonnet/Chardonnet333_1712.pdf
[English translation: https://tradidi.com/semantic-treason-fr-billecocq-responds]

Let us not fall for this "Jedi mind trick," and keep our bearings, as Fr. Billecocq suggests:

"To fight an enemy, and a fortiori when that enemy has infiltrated inside the citadel, clear and unambiguous language is needed to designate him. Traditional Catholics do not fight the Catholic Church, that is obvious. But can we make him believe that he's fighting the official church? If it is official, one risks creating some remorse of conscience to fight against it, because it is official and the Catholic Church is official! No, he's fighting the disease. And this disease, he gave it a name: the conciliar church."
http://laportelatine.org/district/prieure/stnicol/Chardonnet/Chardonnet333_1712.pdf
[English translation: https://tradidi.com/semantic-treason-fr-billecocq-responds]

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Re: Catalog of Compromise, Change, and Contradiction in the SSPX
« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2019, 10:02:30 PM »
#26: Compromise (Branded SSPX Castrated):

In his letter of 12/31/08, the French District Superior (Fr. Regis de Cacqueray) seemed to be on guard against a conciliatory spirit....

"Vatican II is the uncrowning of Our Lord Jesus Christ and the denial of His rights over societies. Vatican II is an immeasurably harmful and scandalous ‘kindness’ towards souls in relation to these societies, factories of error and vice and purveyors of Hell, which are quite improperly called ‘other religions.’ Vatican II is the triumph of democratism inside the Church which renders all authority illusory, and any command nigh on impossible, and which permits the proliferation of heresy and schism. Vatican II is, in reality, the greatest ever disaster in the Church... To recover, we must get rid of it. In no way whatsoever, therefore, could the SSPX cease from its immense fight to confess the faith, which must include the denouncing of error. The SSPX must remain humble and respectful, but intrepid, fearless, to continue to say what needs to be said, to confess what must be confessed, to denounce everything that needs to be denounced.
http://tradinews.blogspot.com/2008/12/abbe-regis-de-cacqueray-valmenier-fsspx.html
[English translation: https://gloria.tv/article/1U7bGzcEc39rCtaRMwZFc3Y9F] (See #86)

Well, obviously Fr. de Cacqueray was fighting a losing battle (and he himself went conspicuously quiet later at certain points, eventually leaving the SSPX for the Capuchins of Morgon in the middle of the battle!).

But how had the SSPX lost its courage, virility, and will to condemn that which needed condemning?

Fr. Girouard tells us, in his sermon about his conversation with Fr. Wegner (then Canadian District Superior, and current US District Superior), how the Dutch branding company he hired to remake the SSPX's image advised Bishop Fellay:

"Bishop Fellay, the result of my survey, is that for the last fifteen years, you had it all wrong! You will never get more faithful and more people to come to your churches if you continue this way, because right now, the Vatican II Church is like an old man dying, and it's like dying flat on the street. Like they lose their seminaries, they lose their monasteries, they sell their churches, and it is a dying church! And you are really looking bad when you continue to fight that Church! It makes you look like a cruel... or like you exaggerate, or like you are kicking somebody who is already dying! So your new branding has to change you completely! You have to stop arguing; you have to stop fighting; you have instead to go on the positive side, and to show the beauty of the traditional liturgy, the beauty of the traditional theology, and that way people will not see you as cruel, or bitter, or things like that.”

And this is why, since the branding of the society, DICI has changed; the SSPX websites have changed; the Angelus has changed. And in fact, interestingly enough, if you go back to the first issue of the new Angelus, what does Father Wegner say? Go back if you have it, and read it. He says: “We will not anymore put the emphasis on the battle and the fight, but we will put the emphasis on the beauty of the Gregorian chant, the beauty of art...” And so forth and so on. Go ahead and read it."
https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/fr-girouard's-sermon-revealing-fr-wegner's-branding-campaign/

Bishop Fellay heeded this advice, and so it has been ever since.


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Re: Catalog of Compromise, Change, and Contradiction in the SSPX
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2019, 12:02:05 PM »
#27: Change (Contrasting Bishops: Lazo vs Huondor):

In 1995, the SSPX received a bit of a surprise when Bishop Salvador Lazo (a retired bishop from the Philippines) contacted Fr. Paul Morgan about joining the combat for Tradition, thereby becoming the first (and only) post-conciliar bishop to do so.
http://www.fsspx.com/Communicantes/Aug2000/In-Memoriam-Bishop-Salvador-Lazo.htm

But Bishop Lazo did not come in as a conciliarist!  He had been studying Tradition for some time, and after protracted prayer and reflection, made his decision, fully on board with Archbishop Lefebvre's fight against modernism.

In 1998, he sent a famous public "Declaration" to Pope John Paul II, in which he said, among other things:

"I retired in 1993, 23 years after my episcopal consecration. Since my retirement, I discovered the real reason for the illegal suppression of the traditional Latin Mass. The ancient Mass was an obstacle to the introduction of ecuмenism. The Catholic Mass contained Catholic dogmas, which Protestants denied. To achieve unity with Protestant sects, the Tridentine Latin Mass had to be scrapped, being replaced by the Novus Ordo Missae...After having known those mutations, I decided to stop saying the New Rite of Mass, which I was saying for more than twenty-seven in obedience to ecclesiastical superiors. I returned to the Tridentine Latin Mass because it is the Mass instituted by Jesus Christ at the Last Supper which is the unbloody renewal of the bloody sacrifice of Jesus Christ on Mount Calvary. This Mass of all times has sanctified the lives of millions down the centuries...Holy Father, with all the respect I have for you and for the Holy See of St. Peter, I cannot follow your own teaching of the "universal salvation", it contradicts Sacred Scripture...I am for eternal Rome, the Rome of Ss. Peter and Paul. I do not follow Masonic Rome. Pope Leo XIII condemned Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ in his encyclical Humanum Genus in 1884.  Neither do I accept modernist Rome. Pope St. Pius X also condemned modernism in his encyclical Pascendi Dominici Gregis in 1907.  I do not serve the Rome that is controlled by Freemasons who are the agents of Lucifer, the Prince of devils."

Now there is a voice that rings familiar!  Respect for the Chair of Peter, but an absolute refusal to collaborate in any way to the auto-demolition of the Church.

As such, the advent of Bishop Lazo was a most welcome development.

More recently, another bishop has come to the SSPX: Bishop Vitus Huondor (Currently an active bishop form Switzerland approaching retirement, and who will spend his retirement at an SSPX Swiss boys school).

A German-language news source gives us the facts (later verified by Bishop Huondor's own spokesman):

"The Bishop of Chur [Switzerland], Mgr Vitus Huonder, will retire after his term as Bishop of Chur in Wangs in the canton of St. Gallen and will live there in the Sancta Maria Institute, a school of the St. Pius X Fraternity. Giuseppe Gracia, the bishop's spokesman, confirmed this on Monday at kath.net.

Here are some images of this latest friend of the SSPX:




Kath.net continues:

"This step is linked to a mission that the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in Rome entrusted to Bishop Vitus: to maintain contact with the Fraternity of Saint Pius X," said Giuseppe Gracia. The acceptance of the resignation of the Bishop of Chur should take place around Easter."

And as Francesca de Villasmundo of the French media outlet Medias-Presse Info (MPI) observes:

"If we understand Mr. Garcia's comments correctly, the coming of the conciliar Bishop Huonder to the priestly Fraternity founded by the traditionalist Bishop Mgr Lefebvre to preserve Catholics from the spirit of Vatican II is therefore done in consultation and with the approval of modernist Rome, the objective being to "maintain contact" between the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the Society of Saint Pius X. This new approach of Rome is probably part of the rapprochement, or rallying, in stages that Pope Francis wants to achieve.

This confirmation unfortunately puts an end to the hopes that some people had to see in this arrival a sudden conversion of Bishop Huonder to Tradition, which could only go hand in hand with a public rejection of Vatican II.

Bishop Huonder does not seem to be a new Bishop Lazo!"

Still says the Novus Ordo.  Still a man of Vatican II.  And working as an admitted operative for Pope Francis.

The contrast between the two bishops could hardly be greater, but it does have the benefit of showing where Menzingen's head is at.

Does anyone believe Bishop Lazo would be any more welcome in the 2019 SSPX than Bishop Williamson?

But a Bishop Huondor, well, "come on in!"

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Re: Catalog of Compromise, Change, and Contradiction in the SSPX
« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2019, 06:18:43 PM »
#28: Contradiction ("Current sacramental practice" vs. the "Three Essential Conditions"):

On 7/17/12, the Secretary General of the SSPX (Fr. Christian Thouvenot) sent an internal letter to all the superiors of the SSPX, informing them of the General Chapter's decision to settle upon three "sine qua non conditions" (i.e., Something that is absolutely necessary; essential) "which the SSPX enjoins and those which are sought from the Roman authorities, before seeking for a canonical recognition..."
http://cathcon.blogspot.com/2012/07/after-vatileaks-tradileaks-state-of.html

The second of these three "essential" conditions required "the exclusive use of the Liturgy of 1962. The retention of the sacramental practice that we currently maintain (including: holy orders, confirmation, marriage)."

At the time, Bishop Williamson criticized the weakness of these conditions in his Eleison Comments, noting there was nothing to stop Rome from reneging after an accord was signed.

In response, Mr. Brian McCall (an indulterer of The Remnant persuasion) sprung to the defense of these conditions, noting in regard to this second condition that:

"this term includes all sacramental practices currently used by the Society. Since the Society does not currently use these yet-to-be promulgated changes and options apparently under consideration in Rome the condition makes clear the Society cannot be made to accept them. Again, His Excellency ignores the precise terms of the real condition and seems to be criticizing a differently worded condition, one that employs a less precise and more ambiguous terminology."
http://archives.sspx.org/sspx_and_rome/wrong_or_right_conditions_for_the_sspxs_future10-2-2012.htm

On the contrary: It was Mr. McCall who, in focusing only on this condition relative to the Mass, had overlooked the application of this condition as regards the other sacraments.

It seems Bishop Williamson had a broader understanding of how this condition might be handled by the Romans in the future, and history was not long in proving him right:

On March 27, 2017 Cardinal Mueller (with the approval of Pope Francis) promulgated new pastoral guidelines for the performance of marriages in the SSPX, radically altering "current sacramental practice," and totally scrapping this second "essential" condition, stating:

"Insofar as possible, the Local Ordinary is to grant the delegation to assist at the marriage to a priest of the Diocese (or in any event, to a fully regular priest), such that the priest may receive the consent of the parties during the marriage rite..."
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2017/04/step-by-step-vatican-issues-marriage.html

And for the SSPX, what was their reaction?

Did they complain to Cardinal Mueller that, as Mr. McCall argued, "Since the Society does not currently use these...the condition makes clear the Society cannot be made to accept them?"

Au Contraire!

Instead, the Society issued a communique in which it stated, "The Society of Saint Pius X conveys its deep gratitude to the Holy Father for his pastoral solicitude as expressed in the letter from the Ecclesia Dei Commission, for the purpose of alleviating “any uncertainty regarding the validity of the sacrament of marriage."
http://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/sspx-statement-about-holy-see-letter-concerning-marriages-28843

And more than this, it moved swiftly and ruthlessly against its own priests who raised their voices in response to this change in "current sacramental practice," by demoting all of them, and transferring some to obscure locations.
https://novusordowatch.org/2017/05/french-sspx-in-disarray/

The only reasonable conclusion to be reached is that neither Rome nor Menzingen took this "essential condition" seriously, and just as Bishop Williamson predicted, moved quickly to circuмvent it.  

It didn't even last five years.

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Re: Catalog of Compromise, Change, and Contradiction in the SSPX
« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2019, 10:39:07 PM »
#29: Change (The Jews):

In the immediate wake of Bishop Williamson's 2009 "h0Ɩ0cαųst interview," Bishop Fellay, in a declaration made to the Famille Chrétienne (a French Catholic weekly) on January 31, 2009, went into damage control mode, declaring:

"The Jews are "our elder brothers" in the sense that we have something in common, that is, the old Covenant. It is true that the acknowledgment of the coming of the Messiah separates us."
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2009/02/fellay-jews-are.html

The Jews are our elder brothers? So, do they need to convert?

Did Archbishop Lefebvre agree with the contention that the Jews are our "elder brothers" in the faith?

Well, on 4/13/86, Pope John Paul II, during his visit to the Rome ѕуηαgσgυє, stated:

"The Jєωιѕн religion is not "extrinsic" to us, but in a certain way is "intrinsic" to our own religion. With Judaism therefore we have a relationship which we do not have with any other religion. You are our dearly beloved brothers and, in a certain way, it could be said that you are our elder brothers."
http://www.vatican.va/jubilee_2000/magazine/docuмents/ju_mag_01111997_p-42x_en.html

Archbishop Lefebvre's response just a few months later was withering:

"I don't understand! And when he went to the ѕуηαgσgυє, he didn't say, "You Jews must convert to the Catholic Church," as did St. Paul and St. Peter and all the Apostles when they were in the ѕуηαgσgυє. When they went to the ѕуηαgσgυє, they said to the Jews—to their brother Jews—they said: "You must become Christian now. The Old Testament is the preparation for the New, the preparation for Christ's Kingdom. You must now become Christians." But they were put out of the ѕуηαgσgυє and they were killed. Some Apostles were killed by the Jews because they spoke the truth. But now the pope says, "Oh, your religion is very good, you are our older brothers." Incredible! Incredible! The pope is not a missionary when he says that. He is not a missionary, no longer a true Apostle. That is very, very sad, very sad, for the Catholic Church."
https://sspx.org/en/lefebvres-1986-atlanta-interview

If the Pope is not a true Apostle when he says that, is Bishop Fellay be a true Apostle when he says it?