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X · « **on:** February 21, 2019, 04:51:59 PM »

As We Are?
101 Compromises, Changes, and Contradictions of an SSPX in Pursuit of a Practical Accord with Modernist Rome
by Sean Johnson
https://www.chantcd.com/index.php/As-We-Are-101-Compromises-Changes-Contradictions-of-an-SSPX

The SSPX has changed!

The SSPX is heading for a full merger with the Modernist Rome of Vatican II, and it's already most of the way there -- formal deal or no! The facts don't lie. Countless changes, compromises, and contradictions have already occurred within the SSPX -- past tense. This isn't about what the SSPX might do; it's about what THE SSPX HAS DONE over the past 7 years. Here is a book (almost 400 pages) detailing the docuмented, hard evidence to prove this assertion. This book will convince you that the SSPX has taken a hard U-turn back to Conciliar Modernist Rome!

This SSPX Resistance resource -- a thread listing all the changes in the SSPX or neo-SSPX over the past several years is not for discussion or comment.

There is a handy shortcut for this thread: cathinfo.com/c.htm
Easy to remember, easy to write down on a napkin, business card, etc.

This is a special thread: an ongoing project of CathInfo member Sean Johnson, which I am assisting with.

If you wish to discuss or comment on any of these items, you MUST start a new thread. All discussions or comments in this thread will be deleted.

I will be grabbing screenshots and PDFs of all evidence hosted on external websites, in case it gets "memory holed". Evidence will be attached to each post. NOTE: only logged-in CathInfo members can download attachments. Fortunately, membership is free and we don't require much for membership! Just an e-mail address and a pseudonym.

Matthew

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It had been in my mind for several years already to compile a "Compendium of Compromise, Change, and Contradiction in the SSPX" to combat the demonstrably false contention of the Society and its apologists that "there have been no compromises" and consequently, that the Resistance had "jumped the gun."

Much like Sean Johnson's "Collection of Resistance Writings" thread, this will be an ongoing project, rather than a ready-made, completed work.

I would appreciate it if there were no other contributors, though I am certainly open to receiving material or criticism via PM, and in the case of the former, will credit the user who submitted it to me.

My intention, based on the statements and requests of several CI members, is to compile a resource to serve as a central reference point, which is simultaneously credible, accessible, and easily distributed.

I shall strive to list only those examples which are credible (e.g., contain citations, attributions, or are by some means publicly verifiable).

Sean Johnson

X · « **Reply #1 on:** February 21, 2019, 04:54:05 PM »

#1: Change (New Mass Participation Sinful or Not?)

All the SSPX faithful should be well familiar with the little blue book, Christian Warfare, published by the SSPX and promoted and used on their Ignatian retreats. In the section on the Examination of Conscience, under the third commandment (page 289 in the 2006 edition) we find the following:

Have you attended and actively participated in the "New Mass"? Have you received Holy Communion in the hand?

Yet, in the new edition, this sentence was replaced with:

Have you received Holy Communion in the hand knowing that it leads to Sacrilege and loss of faith in the Real Presence?

Have you attended and actively participated in non-Catholic religious services?

https://tradcatresist.blogspot.com/2018/06/lastweek-fr-morgan-celebrated-his.html

Clearly the SSPX no longer wishes to suggest attending the Novus Ordo is sinful.

X · « **Reply #2 on:** February 21, 2019, 04:55:04 PM »

#2: Contradiction (SSPX’ers Married by Conciliarists?)

In the US District, the old (attached) SSPX Marriage Form M-2(a) required a signature of the marriage parties before a Society priest would consent to perform the wedding. That form includes the following passage:

"Moreover, I insist on my right to receive all the sacraments in an entirely traditional way, and consequently refuse to have my wedding celebrated by a priest who celebrates the new Mass, or in a church in which the new Mass is celebrated.”

Today, however, the SSPX has accepted to be bound by the April 4, 2017 "Pastoral Guidelines" of Cardinal Mueller (authorized by Pope Francis) which state, among other things:

"Insofar as possible, the Local Ordinary [that is, normally the local Diocesan Bishop] is to grant the delegation to assist at the marriage to a priest of the Diocese (or in any event, to a fully regular priest), such that the priest may receive the consent of the parties during the marriage rite..."
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2017/04/step-by-step-vatican-issues-marriage.html

This is a clear and direct contradiction to SSPX Marriage Form M-2(a) of the US District (which presumably has either subsequently been edited to bring itself into compliance with this new norm, or discarded altogether).

(SSPX Faithful married by a conciliar priest in a conciliar church in Canada)

http://www.ecclesiamilitans.com/2018/03/21/a-picture-of-the-marriage-ceremony/

X · « **Reply #3 on:** February 21, 2019, 07:13:06 PM »

#3: Contradiction (Trap vs No Trap):

One year after the episcopal consecrations, Archbishop Lefebvre warned the faithful that any overtures from modernist Rome were nothing but a trap:

"That is why what can look like a concession is in reality merely a maneuver to separate us from the largest number of faithful possible. This is the perspective in which they seem to be always giving a little more and even going very far. We must absolutely convince our faithful that it is no more than a maneuver, that it is dangerous to put oneself into the hands of Conciliar bishops and Modernist Rome. It is the greatest danger threatening our people. If we have struggled for twenty years to avoid the Conciliar errors, it was not in order, now, to put ourselves in the hands of those professing these errors."
http://sspx.org/en/one-year-after-consecrations

Bishop Fellay (under the most anti-traditional Pope in history) thinks otherwise:

In his 8/24/16 Australian conference, he said:

"But in itself, you cannot imagine anything better than what is offered there. And such a thing that you cannot think ‘That’s a trap.’ It’s not a trap. And if somebody is offering something like that, we are offered something like that, it can be only because he wants good to us. He wants the good of Tradition, he wants Tradition to spread within the Church.”

NB: As the YouTube video of this conference was removed for obvious reasons, we will divert the reader to Issue #37 of The Recusant, where he may find a transcription of the quoted passage, posted here:

http://www.stmaryskssspxmc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/The-Recusant-371.pdf

X · « **Reply #4 on:** February 21, 2019, 08:28:55 PM »

#4: Contradiction (A strict right to know?):

Archbishop Lefebvre:

"They have indeed a strict right to know that the priests who serve them are not in communion with a counterfeit church, promoting evolution, pentecostalism and syncretism."
https://www.sspxasia.com/Docuмents/Archbishop-Lefebvre/Archbishop_Lefebvre_and_the_Vatican/Part_I/1988-07-06.htm

VS

Neo-SSPX:

"Non-SSPX members [i.e., the faithful] do not have a strict right to be kept informed about the internal affairs of the SSPX, which is a religious congregation."
https://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/%E2%80%9Cneed%E2%80%9D-know-all-vs-peace-soul-3073

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