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Re: Catalog of Compromise, Change, and Contradiction in the SSPX
« Reply #95 on: March 27, 2019, 10:08:09 PM »
#95: Compromise (The Second Rosary Crusade):

On October 23, 2008 in his Letter to Friends and Benefactors #73, Bishop Fellay announced a second Rosary Crusade, this time, to offer Our Lady 1 million chaplets to obtain the "withdrawal"(*) of the "excommunications" through her intercession, and this time, he wanted it quickly:

"3 – Hope of a Rapid Fulfillment of Second Pre-condition

[...]

Confronted with these new difficulties, we take the liberty of appealing once more to your generosity. Given the success of our first Rosary Crusade to obtain the return of the Tridentine Mass, we would now like to offer to Our Lady a new bouquet of a million rosaries (5 decades) to obtain the withdrawal of the decree of excommunication through her intercession."
http://archives.sspx.org/superior_generals_news/sup_gen_ltr_73.pdf

Not even three months later, on January 21, 2009 the Blessed Virgin had (allegedly) answered, and Bishop Fellay held in his hands a decree from the Congregation for Bishops "lifting" the "excommunications."
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cbishops/docuмents/rc_con_cbishops_doc_20090121_remissione-scomunica_en.html

By January 29, Bishop Fellay explained in an interview with Libero that:

"We were embraced.  Then, first of all, I gave thanks to the Blessed Virgin; it is her gift.  It was to obtain her intercession that we gathered together more than one million, seven hundred thousand (1,700,000) Rosaries that had been recited by the faithful who desired the revocation of the excommunications."
-Rioult, Fr. Olivier. The Impossible Reconciliation, p. 22 (2013 English-language edition)

But it remains unclear how, once again, Bishop Fellay can attribute the "withdrawal" of the excommunications to Our Lady as a result of the Rosary Crusade, when he himself attributed the measure to his negotiations with Cardinal Hoyos as far back as 2005:

"[Monde et Vie:] Did you expect, Your Excellency, this removal of the excommunication concerning you?

[+Fellay:] I expected it since 2005, after the first letter requesting the lifting of the excommunication which I had sent at the request of Rome itself. Because it is clear that Rome did not ask for this letter in order to refuse to lift the excommunication. As for the moment when it took place, I did not expect it. These past few months, after the ultimatum affair [link], even after it had been minimized, we were mostly cool [in the mutual relations]. Then, I wrote the letter of November 15, which is mentioned in the decree and in my letter to the faithful... [sic]

[Monde et Vie:] Is this decree a sign of the Pope's will?

[+Fellay:] I ascribe it first of all to the Holy Virgin. It is a manifest sign, with an almost immediate response. I had just decided to go to Rome to deliver the result of the Rosary bouquet we had launched at Lourdes with this explicit intention when I received a call from Rome inviting me to go there."
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2009/01/new-fellay-interview-division-will-be.html

What is this double-mindedness which can simultaneously acknowledge the result was inevitable (even if the exact day was in question), based on negotiations and assurances from Rome, cook up a quick Rosary Crusade to make it appear that the Blessed Virgin wants a deal, and then attribute to her what had already been prearranged?

But that was Bishop Fellay's story, and he was sticking to it, as he recounted in his Letter to Friends and Benefactors #74 a couple months later:

"When we launched a new Rosary crusade during our pilgrimage to Lourdes last October, we were certainly not expecting such a quick answer from Heaven to our petition! Indeed, as it has happened with our first petition, which our good Mother in heaven answered so effectively through the intermediary of the Vicar of Christ and his motu proprio on the traditional Mass, the Blessed Virgin was pleased to grant us a second grace even more quickly during the same visit to Rome in the month of January when I presented the bouquet of 1,703,000 rosaries for the Sovereign Pontiff’s intentions, I received from the hands of Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos the decree remitting the “excommunications.”"
https://sspx.org/en/publications/letters/april-2009-superior-generals-letter-74-784

Not expecting that which you acknowledge you had been expecting for the last two years?

In the words of Fr. Alphonsus Rodriguez, it would seem that some men are as far from telling a lie, as they are from telling the truth.

-The decree had been assured for at least 2 years;

-The decree left Archbishop Lefebvre and Bishop de Castro Mayer "excommunicated" (In fact, they were not even mentioned in the request!);

-The decree as promulgated implies that the "excommunications" were valid all along, but were remitted as an act of mercy.

If the Blessed Virgin is the cause of the decree, then has she not therefore implicitly condemned the apostolate of Archbishop Lefebvre?

Of course, this is impossible, unless we were deceived to have supported Archbishop Lefebvre all along.  


(*): Only six months prior, in his April 14, 2008 Letter to Friends and Benefactors #72, Bishop Fellay was "still asking the Holy Father to annul the 1988 decree of excommunication..."  Somehow, by October, the request had morphed from "annul" to "withdraw."  Had Bishop Fellay received word from Rome regarding how they were willing to word the docuмent, and modified his request/terminology accordingly?  
http://archives.sspx.org/superior_generals_news/sup_gen_ltr_72.pdf  

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Re: Catalog of Compromise, Change, and Contradiction in the SSPX
« Reply #96 on: March 28, 2019, 07:03:14 PM »
#96: Contradiction (Further and Further from Archbishop Lefebvre):

In the Bizarro World which is the neo-SSPX, everything is today the opposite of the way it was under Archbishop Lefebvre, as the Society finally comes to terms with Vatican II 55 years after the fact.

The latest account comes to us from England, where it appears that the General House took offense at the decision of the SSPX sisters to abstain from attending the visit of Bishop Egan to the SSPX St. Michael's School.

The problem was not so much the perceived lack of "courtesy," which will surely be used as a stick to beat the sisters with, or even the (well-deserved) embarrassment the abstention may have caused Fr. Brucciani.  The real problem was the setback to the ralliement the sisters' abstention may have caused by showing Rome that the SSPX was not yet sufficiently purified of all resistance (even if it is only its women doing any fighting these days).

Here is the official SSPX announcement from Fr. Brucciani:

http://resistance.vraiforum.com/t882-Du-nouveau-dans-la-liquidation-de-l-ancienne-FSSPX.htm

Dear Parents,
Fr. Robert Brucciani has asked me to announce the news of Sr. Mary Elizabeth’s decision to leave the Society of St. Pius X. Sister will leave in the next few days and move on to a place which she has not disclosed.
Her decision dates from several months ago but we have only known about it very recently. Superiors have not been successful in guiding her to a change of mind.

The General House has also received requests from the other Sisters for new placements. In view of the difficulties they have experienced for some time now, they are in need of rest and discernment. The Sisters will, therefore, depart from St. Michael’s after Easter and take up residence abroad in different houses of the Society.
I cannot hide that the loss of the Sisters’ community comes as a tremendous blow. It reminds us that the crisis in the Church is still very much alive. Such events can even test our Faith. We must not, however, lose our trust in Divine Providence.
The Junior School staff have convened and for the remainder of this term and for next term, junior classes will be organised as follows: Mrs Joyce will take responsibility for Year 1. Miss Dunn will teach Years 2 and 3. Mr Hooley will teach Years 4, 5 and 6. Several pupils presently in Year 3 will pass to Year 4 after consultation with parents.
This redistribution of classes allows for classes to continue with minimal disruption. I am very grateful to the Junior staff for their readiness to give their all for the good of the children.

The school will seek to employ a new deputy-head of the Junior School in readiness for the new school year. It is too early to know if we will receive a new community of nuns. For this we can only pray.
In the Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary,

Rev. Fr. John Brucciani
Headmaster
St. Michael's School
Burghclere, Hampshire RG20 9JW


What a bizarre state of affairs in the neo-SSPX, where nuns are punished for desiring to protect themselves from modernism, whereas in the days of Archbishop Lefefbvre, he clearly lauded them for spurning the visits of diocesan, infected bishops.

For example, Bishop Tissier describes the unanimous strength of the sisters, who were all categorically opposed to any kind of arrangement (or even contact) with infected bishops and modernist Rome:

"The Sisters were almost all categorical: “We cannot deal with bishops who have lost the Faith,” said the Dominicans of Fanjeux. The Sisters of Brignoles considered that depending on Rome would force them into having “contacts with their former congregations that are now modernist,” and “that is impossible.” The Society Sisters mentioned “the risk for the Faith and cohesion of Tradition.” Finally, the Carmelites said that it was “a Trojan horse within Tradition”
https://tradidi.com/between-jansenism-and-mondernism (The Biography, Marcel Lefebvre by Bishop Tissier de Mallerais, pp. 558-559).

And again:

"The sisters of Saint-Michel-en-Brenne, the Dominican Sisters of Fanjeaux and Brignoles, are all against the agreement: "We should not depend on Ratzinger, they say... Imagine if he came to give us conferences! He would divide us!"

Well, Fr. Brucciani and Fr. Bouchacourt wanted the visit of Bishop Egan, and in fact, the sisters are now divided.

The more the SSPX adulterates itself with infected modernist Rome, contracting its spiritual AIDS and diverging from the path laid out by Archbishop Lefebvre, the more they suffer the fate he predicted.

Their infidelity has made him a prophet, but at their own expense.


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Re: Catalog of Compromise, Change, and Contradiction in the SSPX
« Reply #97 on: March 29, 2019, 09:57:43 PM »
#97: Contradiction (Conciliar Pilgrimage Venues):

In post #86 regarding SSPX-Ecclesia Dei convergence, we supplied a 2014 article from Sean Johnson, which explained the former refusal of SSPX and Ecclesia Dei pilgrimages to have any interaction, and which included something of a "prophetic" forecast:

"So pitched were the differences between the SSPX and various indult/Ecclesia Dei organizations, that they would not even march in the same direction at the annual Chartres (France) Pilgrimage for Tradition, nor would they travel the same route: Leaders would meet in advance of the opposed pilgrimages to ensure the two did not intersect!

This was symbolic of the completely opposite ends which the two groups had in mind: Securing the Mass, on the one hand, vs. securing the entire Faith, on the other.

But those were the good old days.

[...]

When the day comes that you see the indultarian and SSPX Chartres Pilgrimages for Tradition marching in the same direction, understand that there is much more symbolism there than meets the eye."

Well, in 2019 they are not yet marching together, but the SSPX just took a big step in that direction.

This account from the French Resistance forum tells the story:
http://resistance.vraiforum.com/t877-Jubile-et-saintete-conciliaires-a-Cotignac.htm



"A thousand FSSPX pilgrims deceived by their pastors

We will consult with interest the report of FSSPX-News on the pilgrimage of March 10 to Cotignac (Var) for the 500th anniversary of these apparitions:

https://fsspx.news/fr/jour-de-graces-a-cotignac-46148

The process of discreet rallying, in small steps, is therefore continuing before our eyes.

A thousand pilgrims of the Fraternity came "to seek the plenary indulgence attached this year to the sanctuary".

To obtain it, we made the "jubilee journey" approved by the "good" bishop of Fréjus-Toulon, Mgr Dominique Rey. And seven pergolas were piously recollected "presenting the life and spirituality of saints of the 19th and 20th centuries, illustrating three by three the seven gifts of the Holy Spirit: Padre Pio, Maximilien Kolbe, Elisabeth of the Trinity, Louis and Zélie Martin..." These are certainly excellent examples, but... with the exception of St Gemma Galgani and St Maria Goretti, all beatified or canonized by the Counciliar Popes according to the new procedures in force, those that have also made it possible to "canonise" John XXIII, Paul VI, and John Paul II without difficulty, not to mention Bishop Oscar Romero!

To make matters worse, the FSSPX-News report "forgets" to specify that the false "Saint John Paul II" also appears in the seventh pergola of the journey, as an "artisan of peace through his travels" and an illustration of the gift of Wisdom of the Spirit !

This can be checked at: http://www.nd-de-graces.com/les-saints-du-jubile/

One can imagine the painful surprise of the pilgrims still attached to Archbishop Lefebvre, to see themselves dragged by their pastors along such a "path" of adulterated holiness, and to have to publicly venerate the memory of the one who excommunicated the Founder of the Fraternity!

As we can see, the subtle "traditional-conciliar" mixture led by the General House is now working perfectly: after Bishop Huonder, who will soon be welcomed in Switzerland for his retirement, and the visit of the Bishop of Portsmouth, Bishop Egan, to a FSSPX school in England, we will have had the consensual, indulgent and "peaceful" pilgrimage of the FSSPX to Cotignac.

The Conciliar Church and its representatives must no longer be made "angry", such is the instruction inherited from the betrayal of the 2012 Chapter, such is the line inaugurated by Bishop Fellay, conscientiously followed by his successor Pagliarani and the leaders of the current neo-Fraternity.

Thus, day after day, the spirit of resistance to the new religion of Vatican II is blunted; thus, little by little, in general indifference, the precious heritage of Archbishop Lefebvre is being squandered.

In this miserable manoeuvre, Fr de Jorna lent his authority as Superior of the District of France, ... he who was considered a strict, doctrinal, and courageous priest!

But only those who are willing are deceived...
________________________________________

CMS
Source: Catholic Fidelity Forum

on FSSPX-News:

"the thousand well restored pilgrims begin, chapter by chapter, the jubilee journey, reciting and singing the rosary. First, a journey of the Saints: seven successive pergolas present the life and spirituality of saints of the 19th and 20th centuries, illustrating three by three the seven gifts of the Holy Spirit: Padre Pio, Maximilien Kolbe, Elisabeth of the Trinity, Louis and Zélie Martin..."

in the "..." there are therefore in particular:
"Mother Teresa (1910 - 1997). Nobel Peace Prize winner.Found the Missionaries of Charity."
"St. Faustina (1905 - 1938. Apostle of mercy."
"St John Paul II (1920 - 2005). Peacemaker through his travels."
"Bl Chiara Luce Badano (1971-1990). Committed to the Focolare, for unity."

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Re: Catalog of Compromise, Change, and Contradiction in the SSPX
« Reply #98 on: March 30, 2019, 08:24:03 AM »
#98: Contradiction (Who Can Approve a Deal with Rome?):

The old SSPX taught us that all revolution inevitable consumes itself, with the initial generation of revolutionaries laying down new principles, and subsequent generations taking those new principles to their logical conclusion, thereby going further than even the original revolutionaries desired or foresaw.  The classic example of this was the battle between the Girondists and Jacobins of the French Revolution (the Girondists appearing "moderate" in comparison to the Jacobins, who grabbed from them the revolutionary principles and developed them to their terrible but inevitable conclusion).  In the ecclesiastical realm of the post-conciliar Church, we see the same dynamic between the liberals (Kung, Congar, von Balthasar, Paul VI, Bugnini, et al) and conservatives (Ratzinger, Burke, Schneider, Brandmuller, Mueller, et al), with the latter moving in the same direction as the former, but at a slower pace, and trying to paint the revolution with a Catholic veneer, but gutting the religion of its former self all the same.

If, then, the SSPX has embraced the conciliar revolution, we would expect to see the same phenomena transpiring within the Society, and following the model above, it would do so at an increasingly accelerated pace: From "discreet but not secret" beginnings, quietly contradicting Archbishop Lefebvre behind closed doors while preaching tough sermons to maintain appearances in the years from 1997 - 2006, to achieving practical steps toward the accomplishment of a cohabitation with modernist Rome from 2006 - 2012, to open divergence with the Founder from 2012 to the present.

And of course, the evidence of the revolution lies in the casualties along the way: the expulsion or resignation of 70 +/- priests; the rupture of relations with formerly allied religious communities; the suppression of any questioning of the reorientation of the Society reminiscent of h0Ɩ0cαųst denial laws in Germany; the 100+ docuмented changes, contradictions, and compromises which comprise this thread.

In this post, we focus on a very specific manifestation of the SSPX revolution overtaking itself: A new mindset (de facto and unofficial, but seemingly operative) prevailing in the minds of the superiors and capitulants convened at the 2018 General Chapter, explicated by certain assertions made by the Secretary General and 1st Assistant to the Superior General, by which the General Chapter seems to have lost or relinquished its authority to hold deliberative power to decide on an accord with Rome (as declared at the 2012 general Chapter), and had this authority transferred to the Superior General.

But we must first go back in time a bit to track the progression of the SSPX revolution, and make it more visible:

In 2006, the SSPX General Chapter Declaration announced:

"Likewise, the contacts made from time to time with the authorities in Rome have no other purpose than to help them embrace once again that Tradition which the Church cannot repudiate without losing her identity. The purpose is not just to benefit the Society, nor to arrive at some merely practical impossible agreement. When Tradition comes back into its own, "reconciliation will no longer be a problem, and the Church will spring back to life".
http://archives.sspx.org/superior_generals_news/2006_general_chapter/declaration_of_2006_general_chapter.htm

That statement reflected the post-consecration position of Archbishop Lefebvre that a practical agreement with unconverted Rome:

"That is why, convinced that I am only carrying out the holy will of Our Lord, I am writing this letter to ask you to agree to receive the grace of the Catholic episcopacy, just as I have already conferred it on other priests in other circuмstances. I will bestow this grace upon you, confident that without too long a delay the See of Peter will be occupied by a successor of Peter who is perfectly Catholic, and into whose hands you will be able to put back the grace of your episcopacy so that he may confirm it."
https://fsspx.org/en/letter-future-bishops

But shortly thereafter, Rome and the SSPX began implementing the agreement to "proceed by stages" toward a practical accord agreed upon in 2000.  With the reign of Bishop Fellay freshly secured for another 12 years, it was time pretend Rome was moving toward Tradition by complying with the SSPX's preconditions.  But it appears nobody ever considered either that Rome could grant the two conditions as a maneuver, while still remaining hostile to Tradition, or, as was in fact the case, that Rome could pretend to grant the two conditions, with the SSPX pretending along with them, as though checking tasks to be accomplished off a "to do" list, and after having gone through the motions, propose these maneuvers demonstrated a change in Rome which demanded a new response from the SSPX in kind.

So, by the time the 2012 General Chapter had rolled around, the SSPX had convinced most of its clergy and faithful that Rome had granted the two preconditions, engaged in doctrinal discussions, and was now ready to grant the SSPX everything it wanted...but without Rome moving one inch in the direction of Tradition.

It was based upon this pretext that the 2012 General Chapter overturned the operative principle of 2006 with regard to a "reconciliation" with conciliar Rome, and declared:

"We have determined and approved the necessary conditions for an eventual canonical normalization. We have decided that, in that case, an extraordinary Chapter with deliberative vote will be convened beforehand."
http://archives.sspx.org/superior_generals_news/2012_general_chapter/2012_general_chapter_statement_7-19-2012.htm

The pertinent point of the Declaration quoted, for the purposes of this post, is not so much that in laying down conditions for a practical accord with unconverted Rome, the 2012 Chapter had directly contradicted that of 2006 (revolutionary in its own right), but that it had determined that in the event of such a sellout, it would be the affirmative vote of the General Chapter which would authorize it.

This was also explained by the Society shortly before the 2012 General Chapter:

"The General Chapter is the supreme and extraordinary authority of the Society of St. Pius X. The ordinary authority is the Superior General assisted by his council. The General Chapter is the only entity able to amend the Statutes. The “ordinary” General Chapter meets every 12 years. Additionally, the Superior General is allowed to convene an “extraordinary” Chapter for exceptional reasons. After his re-election at the head of the Society in 2006, the Superior General, Bishop Bernard Fellay announced that he will convene an “half-mandate” Chapter to review the current affairs in 2012...The present relationships with Rome will occupy also the deliberations of the Chapter. In the today’ situation, the resolutions or recommendations of the Chapter will be especially important."
http://sspx.org/en/how-it-works-sspxs-general-chapter

But with the former principle of no practical agreement before the conversion of Rome overturned, the revolution accelerated (as so many examples of contradiction, change, and compromise in this thread amply demonstrate), and by the time the 2018 General Chapter had arrived, even the requirement and authority of the General Chapter to authorize the betrayal had fallen to the revolution, with the Superior General now arrogating to himself sole decision making authority to hand the keys to the castle over to unconverted Rome, with the groundwork for this transition of authority being laid just one month before the 2018 General Chapter by Fr. Christian Thouvenot (Secretary General) in an interview with Mitteilungsblatt:

"To answer your question, it is certainly possible that the issue of the status of a personal prelature should come up during the Chapter. But it is the Superior General alone who leads the Society and who is responsible for relations between the Holy See and Tradition. Archbishop Lefebvre, in 1988, was careful to insist on this."
https://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/what-will-happen-general-chapter-sspx-38474

And at roughly the same time, Fr. Niklaus Pfluger (then 1st Assistant to Bishop Fellay) was explaining to Catholic Family News that:

"It is not exceptional or unusual for the Superior of any Institute in the Catholic Church to be responsible for the legal process of formal recognition by the authorities of the Church. Neither the people, nor the Chapter, nor the majority should deal with the Roman authorities. That’s only the duty of the proper Superior, because the Catholic Church is not a democracy."
https://www.catholicfamilynews.org/blog/2018/6/16/interview-with-father-niklaus-pfluger-sspx

Bishop Williamson was quick to react to the suggestion that the Superior General along possessed deliberative power regarding a deal with Rome:

"Firstly, it is not the Superior General who is alone at the head of the Society. By the Statutes of the Society established by Archbishop Lefebvre, it is true that once the Superior General is elected, he has remarkable powers at his disposal and for no less than a 12-year term, because the Archbishop wanted the Superior General to have time and power to achieve something, without being hindered as he himself had been in the Holy Ghost Fathers. But the General Chapter meeting every six or twelve years is above the Superior General, and he must follow the policies decided by it. Now in theory the General Chapter of 2012 decided that any “canonical normalisation” of the Society would require a majority vote of the full General Chapter, but in practice Bishop Fellay has already proceeded to “normalise” with Rome the Society’s confessions, ordinations and marriages. And now his General Secretary is talking as though the General Chapter has nothing further to say, as though Bishop Fellay alone can “normalise” the rest. Are all the forty future Capitulants of July aware of how Menzingen is talking? Do they agree?"
https://stmarcelinitiative.com/liberals-prepare/

But nobody seemed to challenge this new suggestion, and it appears never to have occurred to any who have since accepted this de facto transition of authority that, if Frs. Thouvenot and Pfluger were correct, then the 2012 general Chapter was itself guilty of violating a principle attributed to Archbishop Lefebvre, in illegitimately delegating this decision making authority to the deliberative vote of the General Chapter!

If one reads the various SSPX communiques during and after the 2018 General Chapter (e.g., announcements regarding election results, or what passes for a general Chapter Declaration), no official or de jure announcement of such a transition of authority is mentioned.  It seems instead to have been a passively accepted "spirit" (just like at Vatican II), insofar as the statements immediately before the Chapter by the Secretary General and 1st Assistant to the Superior General are nowhere contradicted by any of the capitulants.

Consequently, the revolution has progressed nicely, and the General Chapter -de facto- now has the appearance, at least with regard to relations with Rome, of being nothing more than an executive body convened to rubber stamp the will of the Superior general:

In 2006, no practical accord was possible.  In 2012, it become possible, but any decision to come to a canonical agreement were the business of a General Chapter(*), and authorized only by an affirmative deliberative vote.  By 2018, according to the suggestions of Frs. Pfluger and Thouvenot, it seems to have become the sole business of the Superior General to decide on a deal with Rome.  

When the time comes for the SSPX to sign the definitive accord (Something Fr. Pagliarani has announced his desire to achieve in reopening negotiations/discussions with Rome), can anyone imagine a General Chapter, which gives every appearance of having acquiesced in these suggestions, opposing the will of the Superior general?

Consequently, the door is open for the revolution to continue on its merry way, and right in to the conciliar church.


(*): Note that some have observed that, by the signing of the 2012 April 15 Doctrinal Declaration (the day after rejecting the appeal of the three other SSPX bishops not to), Bishop Fellay had already violated, circuмvented, and pre-empted the General Chapter's authority to call for a deliberative vote prior to an accord with Rome, which did not convene for another three months.

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Re: Catalog of Compromise, Change, and Contradiction in the SSPX
« Reply #99 on: March 31, 2019, 07:56:12 PM »
#99: Contradiction (+Lefebvre Never Required the Conversion of Rome? - Part I):

When in February of 2012, Bishop Fellay "came out" with his abrupt announcement that he would accept a practical accord with modernist Rome, so long as there were "no strings attached," it served as a rather rude awakening to SSPX clergy and faithful who were struggling to be obedient to both him and Archbishop Lefebvre.  Faced with a litany of well known sermons, interviews, books, and conferences all seeming to condemn what Bishop Fellay had just announced, it soon became apparent that, just as in the battle between the SSPX and conciliar church, we were now forced to resist Bishop Fellay's reorientation of the SSPX in order to be found faithful to Tradition and Archbishop Lefebvre (i.e., to retain the true Faith).

In response, Menzingen would seek to stifle the conversation, first by exhorting the clergy and faithful to abstain from the internet (where the conversation still rages), and then by punishing those priests (and some lay faithful) who pointed out the contradiction between Archbishop Lefebvre's position and Bishop Fellay's, while simultaneously unleashing his own cadre of accordist apologists (among whom Fr. Simoulin, Fr. Celier, Fr. Themann, Fr. Schmidberger, Fr. Laisney, and a bit later Fr. Robinson were preeminent) who sought to explain away the contradiction as no contradiction at all.
[For an example of discouraging being informed, see this article: https://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/%E2%80%9Cneed%E2%80%9D-know-all-vs-peace-soul-3073]

One of these arguments was, amazingly, that Archbishop Lefebvre never required the conversion of Rome back to Tradition before he would consider a practical accord.

The following argument by Fr. Simoulin explains it:

"This has been said and written so many times already that you hesitate to say it once again, but Archbishop Lefebvre never made any claim to “converting” Rome or the pope. At the very most, he used to say to those who rebuked him for going to Rome: “Who knows? I may do them a little good!” He never rejected contacts or discussions with Rome, in the hope of gaining freedom for his work and for Tradition. He fought and condemned the modern errors, those from before the Council, those of the Council and those after the Council, but he never fought or condemned Rome or the pope."
http://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/lefebvre-love-church-not-controversy-3297

This caricature of an Archbishop Lefebvre who merely went to Rome -even from 1988 on- to carve out an approved apostolate for Tradition is not supported by the historical record, and stands contradicted by the fact that there is such a thing in existence called "the Resistance" today, the genesis of which arose precisely because the rupture with Archbishop Lefebvre's position was detected by those most faithful sons who were not deceived, and/or would not allow themselves to be lulled to sleep by "finessed" and "nuanced" historical revisionism regarding Archbishop Lefebvre's position vis-a-vis Rome from the time he determined to consecrate bishops.

However, Archbishop Lefebvre was quite clear on his position, once he understood the Romans had no intention of working for the reestablishment of Tradition, which was most famously expressed in the November-December 1988 issue of Fideliter:

"We do not have the same outlook on a reconciliation. Cardinal Ratzinger sees it as reducing us, bringing us back to Vatican II. We see it as a return of Rome to Tradition. We don’t agree; it is a dialogue of death. I can’t speak much of the future, mine is behind me, but if I live a little while, supposing that Rome calls for a renewed dialogue, then, I will put conditions. I shall not accept being in the position where I was put during the dialogue. No more.

I will place the discussion at the doctrinal level: “Do you agree with the great encyclicals of all the popes who preceded you? Do you agree with Quanta Cura of Pius IX, Immortale Dei and Libertas of Leo XIII, Pascendi Gregis of Pius X, Quas Primas of Pius XI, Humani Generis of Pius XII? Are you in full communion with these Popes and their teachings? Do you still accept the entire Anti-Modernist Oath? Are you in favor of the social reign of Our Lord Jesus Christ? If you do not accept the doctrine of your predecessors, it is useless to talk! As long as you do not accept the correction of the Council, in consideration of the doctrine of these Popes, your predecessors, no dialogue is possible. It is useless.

Thus, the positions will be clear."
https://www.sspxasia.com/Docuмents/Archbishop-Lefebvre/Archbishop_Lefebvre_and_the_Vatican/Part_II/1988-11.htm

Well, apparently not clear enough.  

The revisionists nuanced this argument by seizing upon the phrase "supposing that Rome calls for a renewed dialogue, then, I will put conditions..."  They argue that this phrase evinces an Archbishop Lefebvre still willing to negotiate for an agreement with unconverted Rome, and consequently, that openness to such an agreement with unconverted Rome demonstrates Bishop Fellay has not deviated from the position of Archbishop Lefebvre.

Of course, this clever interpretation necessarily leaves out of consideration all that follows, in which Archbishop Lefebvre not only requires the conversion of Rome before an agreement was possible, but even before any discussions were possible: "As long as you do not accept the correction of the Council, in consideration of the doctrine of these Popes, your predecessors, no dialogue is possible. It is useless."

This point is drawn out even more explicitly in another interview Archbishop Lefebvre gave a few months later to Controverses in 1989:

"They have to stop with their ecuмenism, they have to bring back the true meaning of the Mass, restore the true definition of the Church, bring back the Catholic meaning of collegiality, and so on. I expect from them a Catholic, and not a liberal, definition of religious liberty. They must accept the encyclical Quas Primas on Christ the King, and the Syllabus (Pius IX). They must accept all this, because this is from now on the condition determining all new discussions between us and them.
https://tradidi.com/one-world-religion-incorporating-latin-mass

How is this not Archbishop Lefebvre demanding the return of Rome to Tradition before an agreement is possible?  In truth, Archbishop Lefebvre is going even further than that: He is requiring the conversion of Rome before he will even sit down to doctrinal discussions with them!

But let's continue providing examples of Archbishop Lefebvre's position that there can be no agreement before Rome converts:

So, when we raise the question of when there will be an agreement with Rome, my answer is simple: When Rome again crowns our Lord Jesus Christ. We cannot agree with those who dethrone the Lord. The day they again recognize our Lord as King of peoples and nations, it is not us who will join them, but they who will come back to the Catholic Church in which we remain.” (Archbishop Lefebvre, Fideliter, No. 68, March 1989)

Obviously, to re-throne Our Lord requires the rejection of religious liberty and ecuмenism, which would again require the conversion of Rome to Tradition.

And I even wrote to him [Dom Gerard]. We must no longer discuss with the Roman authorities. They only want to bring us back to the Council; we must not have relations with them. Dom Gérard replied that his case was different and that he would try anyway. I do not approve.” (Interview for Controverses, 1989)
https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/archbishop-lefebvre-reminds-us/

But if the Romans have continued to try to bring the Society toward the Council (something they have repeatedly explained to Bishop Fellay), obviously they have not converted to Tradition, for which reasons Archbishop Lefebvre says we cannot have relations with them.

"Do not be surprised if we do not come to an understanding with Rome. This is not possible while Rome will not return to faith in the Reign of Our Lord Jesus Christ ... We collided on a point of the Catholic Faith." (Sierre Conference on November 27, 1988; Fideliter No 89)

"We must not delude ourselves. Principles which now run the Conciliar Church are increasingly, openly, contrary to Catholic doctrine. Finally the Pope is more ecuмenical than ever. It is absolutely inconceivable that we can agree to work with [such] a hierarchy. (Archbishop Lefebvre, Fideliter No. 79, January-February 1991)

And in a letter to the four bishops-elect, Archbishop Lefebvre explained to them when the proper time to come to  an agreement with Rome would be:

“I will bestow this grace upon you, confident that without too long a delay the See of Peter will be occupied by a successor of Peter who is perfectly Catholic, and into whose hands you will be able to put back the grace of your episcopacy so that he may confirm it.”
https://sspxasia.com/Docuмents/Archbishop-Lefebvre/The-Episocopal-Consecrations.htm#future

Was Benedict this “perfectly Catholic pope"?  Is Francis?

And of course, in Lefebvre's Spiritual Journey (his final book, completed just weeks before his death):

"It is, therefore, a strict duty for every priest wanting to remain Catholic to separate himself from this Conciliar Church for as long as it does not rediscover the Tradition of the Church and of the Catholic Faith” (p 13).
https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/spiritual-journey-by-archbishop-lefebvre/

Yet Fr. Simoulin and company want me to believe that post-1988 Archbishop Lefebvre never required the conversion of Rome before signing an agreement?

In the next installment, we shall see how the accordists proposed to deal with this mountain of contradictions.