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Re: Catalog of Compromise, Change, and Contradiction in the SSPX
« Reply #60 on: March 09, 2019, 07:17:20 PM »
#60: Contradiction (More on "Abnormal Situation: "Bishop Tissier vs Fr. Schmidberger):

In this 2012 interview with Rivarol, Bishop Tissier de Mallerais once again rejects the notion that the SSPX is in any real kind of "irregular situation:"

Rivarol: The imminent "reintegration" of the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) within the "official Church" is mentioned widely. What is it exactly?

Bp. TISSIER de MALLERAIS: “Reintegration”: the word is false. The Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) has never left the Church. It is in the heart of the Church. There where the authentic preaching of the faith is, there is the Church. This project of "officialization" of the SSPX leaves me indifferent. We have no need of it, and the Church has no need of it. We are already on the pinnacle, as a sign of contradiction, that attracts those noble souls, that attract lots of young priests, despite our pariah status. One would wish to place our lamp under the bushel for our integration in the Conciliar world. This status that is proposed to us, of a personal prelature, analogous to that of Opus Dei, is a status for a state of peace. But we are currently in a state of war in the Church. It would be a contradiction to wish to "regularize the war".

Rivarol : But some in the Society of Saint Pius X think that it would be in fact a good thing. Are you not bothered by this "irregular" situation?

Bp. TISSIER de MALLERAIS: The irregularity is not ours. It is that of Rome. A Modernist Rome. A Liberal Rome that has renounced Christ the King. A Rome that had been condemned in advance by all Popes up until the eve of the [Second Vatican] Council. On the other hand, the experience of the priestly societies that have joined current Rome is that all, the ones after the others, included Campos and the Good Shepherd, have been constrained to accept the Vatican II Council. And we know what has become of Bp. Rifan, of Campos, who now has no objection to celebrating the new mass and who has forbidden his priests from criticizing the Council!
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2012/06/bishop-tissier-de-mallerais.html

But by 2016, Fr. Franz Schmidberger (like Fr. Pfluger before him) was also keen to overcome what he felt was an "abnormal situation," and in a subversive internal letter which was later leaked to the internet, stated:

"Every abnormal situation inherently tends toward normalization. This is due to the nature of the matter...Let us not lose sight of the danger that the faithful and certain confreres may get used to the abnormal situation and regard it as normal."
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2016/04/considerations-schmidberger-letter.html

It was the same "scare tactic" Fr. Simoulin had been inculcating in SSPXers for the previous two years (Since his letter "Avoiding a False Spirit of Resistance") in which he, like Fr. Schmidberger, wanted you to worry about becoming schismatics if we didn't "regularize" our "abnormal situation."

Obviously, Bishop Tissier didn't see it that way, much less the post-1988 Archbishop Lefebvre (who, again, spoke of a "strict duty to separate from the conciliar church").


[Obitur Dictum: The Avrille Dominicans refuted this concern here:

In addition, the expression used implies that we are in an abnormal situation.  What is actually abnormal is that the authorities spread modernism.  To make a comparison, if a father forces his children to steal, under the threat of grave punishment, they are bound to disobey him and resist him; certainly it is abnormal that children resist their father; but the first disorder is indeed that of the father; and if it becomes untenable and dangerous for their virtue, it is prudent for them to get away from him.  As this disorder remains, the children are forced to resist, or to stand aside.  It would be incomprehensible for the children to resume normal relations with their father, because they know that he is obstinate in his vice.
In our case, we keep our distance from modernist Rome for the reasons mentioned above, and for others we will see in the following articles.  As these reasons remain, we are obliged to stay in the situation we find ourselves in and to be qualified “abnormal” by the objector.

http://www.dominicansavrille.us/is-it-not-a-duty-to-seek-official-recognition-from-the-pope/

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Re: Catalog of Compromise, Change, and Contradiction in the SSPX
« Reply #61 on: March 09, 2019, 07:31:49 PM »
#61: Contradiction (Bishop Tissier vs Fr. Schmidberger: Are the faith and Sacraments Sufficient?):

In his previously quoted rousing Chicago sermon of January - 2015, Bishop Tissier was quite adamant that we traditionalists possessed everything we needed to be Catholics:

"First of all, the visible church? We are the visible Church! Who practice visibly the True Faith. We have the unity of the Faith. We have the saintliness of the Sacraments and of our lives. We are Catholics because of our Faith in the Society and the true Christians are spread all out throughout the world. We are Apostolic who have still the Faith of the Apostles. We possess the full notes of the Catholic Church: Unity, Saintliness, Catholicity, Apostolicity...We possess the Faith, the Sacrament and the disposition to submit to the pope. We have the Faith, the true Sacrament and the disposition of to obey the pope! And the bishops. We are of the disposition."
https://www.therecusant.com/tissier-1jan2015

However, elsewhere in the previously quoted leaked 2015 internal letter of Fr. Schmidberger, we see that he had descended into legalism:

"If the faithful or some confreres feel comfortable in this situation of freedom relating to independence from the hierarchy, then this indicates a creeping loss of the sensus Ecclesiae. We must never argue: “We have sound teaching, the true Holy Mass, our seminaries and priories and above all bishops. So we don’t need anything.
https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2016/04/considerations-schmidberger-letter.html



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Re: Catalog of Compromise, Change, and Contradiction in the SSPX
« Reply #62 on: March 09, 2019, 09:40:23 PM »
#62: Change (SSPX/Ecclesia Dei Reciprocity Program?):

In post #34 of this thread, we noted the reasons the SSPX had traditionally given for avoiding the indult Mass, and then we showed you how that same SSPX ignored its own teaching ("Do as I say, not as I do, keep the money in our own pew?") and attended the first Mass of a newly ordained Institute of Christ the King priest in Belgium on 9/12/15.

What you might not have known was that six months earlier, "Monsignor" Wach had sent Fr. William Hudson to sit in choir at Bishop Fellay's 3/19/15 pontifical Mass at the dedication of St. Joseph's Church in Brussels.

I suppose on the one hand, after 15 years of GREC collaboration, "Monsignor" Wach (who joined the GREC in 2000) did not fear for his priest to hear anything injurious to his position from Bishop Fellay (Rhetorically, I wonder: Would "Monsignor" Wach have exhibited the same comfort were his priest to sit in choir and hear a sermon from Archbishop Lefebvre?).

On the other hand, what gall of Bishop Fellay to invite a priest representing a community which Archbishop Lefebvre said was betraying Tradition and founded upon compromise (not to convert him to Tradition, of course, but merely to get the two communities used to being around each other in preparation for the practical accord, for which they shall first have learned to play well in the sandbox together)!







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Re: Catalog of Compromise, Change, and Contradiction in the SSPX
« Reply #63 on: March 09, 2019, 10:02:04 PM »
#63: Change (The SSPX and Mother Teresa of Calcutta):


[This 2015 article was published by Non Possumus shortly before the "canonization" of Mother Teresa of Calcutta.  Our addition is in red font at the conclusion of this article -X]



Teresa of Calcutta at the tomb of Gandhi


On November 1st, the secondary school of Saint Teresa, of the German FSSPX, invited its students and parents to a conference on Teresa of Calcutta. The speaker was  Marcus Pohl , who spent years in the house of the poor of Mother Teresa in India and runs an aid organization.



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Marcus Pohl in his organization in India,
Given the liberal drift of the SSPX, it is not surprising that he now organizes conferences on Mother Teresa and present [her] as a model. As a vestige of other times, in the catalogs of the  Clovis editions  of the French FSSPX, there is still a book - from a Dominican anti-accordist of Avrillé, by the way - entitled: " Mother Teresa of Calcutta, true or false charity?" , in which it is exposed, in the light of traditional theology, and examining in detail her life, her statements and her writings, the other side of this "icon" of the twentieth century: the refusal to convert to the true faith those she cared for, a religious relativism taken to the extreme, a new conception of evangelization that John Paul II wanted to consecrate in beatifying Mother Teresa. And this new conception of the mission could only, certainly, please the world. That was what everyone said about that religious in the SSPX until recently.

This "supra-catholic charity" of Teresa of Calcutta will be carried to the altars, precisely on the occasion of the year of neo-mercy, since  Francis has expressed his desire to canonize Mother Teresa during the Year of Mercy that will begin on the 8th. December as a "sign of mercy for the world" in service to the poor .

What a coincidence!


We must know that the  council  of the St. Teresa School includes Maximilian Krah, who, by the way, writes in the  new blog  of his friend  Matthias Schappi  an article on fashion, which states:  The religious medium suffers from an over-emphasis about the sixth commandment ... From there arises an unhealthy prudery that makes impossible a treatment of sɛҳuąƖity without prejudice what brings insecure, tense and horny men ... The wide wrappers of legs with sandals of migrant, combined with raincoat, transferred their ugliness to the religious concerns. Who wants to join the ugly club?

"Without unhealthy mojigaterías", Krah, legal right arm of Mons Fellay, posing in Dubai for a photo released by himself.

Oh! But despite all this, "nothing has changed in the SSPX" ...


As for what the SSPX used to teach regarding Mother Teresa of Calcutta?

But it is when it comes to ecuмenism that we must reproach her. She is typically conciliar: for her, faith is subjective; Catholicism is good for Catholics.
 
“She declared, speaking of the dying persons welcomed in her home: we give them what they want according to their faith. And Bishop Jean-Michel Di Falco said: ‘Mother Teresa wishes to help each person die according to his own religion. (…) For Catholics, priests are there to administer the last sacraments. For others, what counts is that they die at peace with themselves and with God. Mother Teresa, easily accused of ecuмenism, did not wait for Vatican Council II to practice ecuмenism and to lend an ear to non-Christian religions. And this behavior has not failed to earn her criticism from certain members of the clergy, who reproached her with neglecting her missionary function."

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Re: Catalog of Compromise, Change, and Contradiction in the SSPX
« Reply #64 on: March 10, 2019, 07:46:52 AM »
#64: Change (Conciliar Ugliness - SSPX Church in Spain: Symbolic of SSPX Entry into Conciliar Church):


"Catholics are also disoriented by the triviality and even by the vulgarity that is imposed on them in places of worship in a systematic way. Everything that contributed to the beauty of the buildings and the splendor of the ceremony was called triumphalism ...
Union with God is obtained through a religious and heavenly song, through a general atmosphere of liturgical action, through piety and recollection of the place, by its architectural beauty, by the fervor of the Christian community, by the nobility and the mercy of the celebrant, the symbolic decoration, the perfume of incense, and so on."
-Archbishop Lefebvre (Open Letter to Confused Catholics)


That's a church?


That's an SSPX church?






Check out the freaky, wavy fence, which puts one in mind of this grotesque Wiccan "art:" https://kotaku.com/the-popes-audience-hall-looks-like-a-final-fantasy-boss-1568714627/+lukeplunkett


A grotesque mockery of the Blessed Virgin


Who would ever have thought the SSPX would approve of such ugliness in reference to Our Lady?


She stands atop an egg?


Church or disco?


No sign of Catholicism on site

Bishop de Galarreta quite happy with the progress


"Shall it be baroque?  Romanesque?  


No: Salvador Dali!  With a long-necked, short-haired Mary (who almost got run over by a boulder).


More freaky Wicca-style "art."


Would passers-by recognize this as the Blessed Virgin stomping Satan?  Or was this grotesque presentation intended to blur that reality?


I guess that's a communion rail?


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Toni Marí , the artist hired to create this image with one of his creations.
On his  website you  can see that all his works have the same style.



Another work by the same author made with the same material, the same ambiguity and the same emptiness that modern art produces. We do not know if it is a saint, a saint, a martyr, all together or none of those things.

Yes, the SSPX actually sought this man out, and chose him to build their...church.

Congratulations SSPX: You have built one of the ugliest chapels in the world, and qualified for inclusion on this blog's list of notoriously ugly modernist (Satanic?) churches built to mock God:



Additional references of the SSPX's conciliar ugliness: