Author Topic: Cardinal assures Una Voce of Popes support for Traditional Mass (Read 3160 times)

Geremia · « **on:** November 11, 2013, 06:16:01 PM »

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The General Assembly of the Internation Una Voce Federation (FIUV) was held in Rome in the past few days days - and they got an uplifting visit from Cardinal Castrillón:
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The former prefect of the Congregation for the Clergy has told a traditionalist group that Pope Francis has no intention of restricting access to the Extraordinary Form of the Latin liturgy.

“I met Pope Francis very recently and he told me that he has no problem with the old rite, and neither does he have any problem with lay groups and associations like yours that promote it,” Cardinal Dario Castrillon Hoyos told members of Una Voce International (FIUV), who were in Rome for a general assembly.

Responding to questions from FIUV members about tensions within the Friars of the Immaculate, the Colombian cardinal said that the Pope moved to insist on the use of the Novus Ordo in that religious community only because of internal dissension, and not because of any negative judgment on the traditional liturgy.

At its general assembly, FIUV elected a new president: James Bogle, a lawyer, author, and chairman of the Catholic Union of Great Britain. “We are very grateful to His Eminence Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos, His Eminence Cardinal Brandmüller, and to Archbishop Pozzo for taking part in our General Assembly of the International Federation Una Voce,” Bogle said in a brief statement to CWN. “We are very pleased with the way the celebration of the traditional Mass is now going worldwide. We are obviously very grateful to Benedict XVI and also our present Pope Francis for all the support that they have given us in our right to worship in the traditional Roman rite.”

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SeanJohnson · « **Reply #1 on:** November 11, 2013, 08:07:06 PM »

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The General Assembly of the Internation Una Voce Federation (FIUV) was held in Rome in the past few days days - and they got an uplifting visit from Cardinal Castrillón:
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The former prefect of the Congregation for the Clergy has told a traditionalist group that Pope Francis has no intention of restricting access to the Extraordinary Form of the Latin liturgy.

“I met Pope Francis very recently and he told me that he has no problem with the old rite, and neither does he have any problem with lay groups and associations like yours that promote it,” Cardinal Dario Castrillon Hoyos told members of Una Voce International (FIUV), who were in Rome for a general assembly.

Responding to questions from FIUV members about tensions within the Friars of the Immaculate, the Colombian cardinal said that the Pope moved to insist on the use of the Novus Ordo in that religious community only because of internal dissension, and not because of any negative judgment on the traditional liturgy.

At its general assembly, FIUV elected a new president: James Bogle, a lawyer, author, and chairman of the Catholic Union of Great Britain. “We are very grateful to His Eminence Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos, His Eminence Cardinal Brandmüller, and to Archbishop Pozzo for taking part in our General Assembly of the International Federation Una Voce,” Bogle said in a brief statement to CWN. “We are very pleased with the way the celebration of the traditional Mass is now going worldwide. We are obviously very grateful to Benedict XVI and also our present Pope Francis for all the support that they have given us in our right to worship in the traditional Roman rite.”
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Mithrandylan · « **Reply #2 on:** November 11, 2013, 08:10:04 PM »

He has no problem with the TLM the same way that I have no problem with an ant. Sure, I might not go out of my way to step on one but I don't give a flying fruit about them either, and you won't see me helping them build homes and gather food.

magdalena · « **Reply #3 on:** November 11, 2013, 08:49:35 PM »

:alcohol:

Sigismund · « **Reply #4 on:** November 11, 2013, 09:02:20 PM »

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He has no problem with the TLM the same way that I have no problem with an ant. Sure, I might not go out of my way to step on one but I don't give a flying fruit about them either, and you won't see me helping them build homes and gather food.

That is probably a perfect summary of Pope Francis's attitude.

LoverOfTradition · « **Reply #5 on:** November 11, 2013, 09:17:18 PM »

I have an idea.

The Holy Father should offer the Traditional Latin Mass and anathamize the New Mass.

Yeah, I wish...

magdalena · « **Reply #6 on:** November 11, 2013, 09:35:22 PM »

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Quote from: Mithrandylan
He has no problem with the TLM the same way that I have no problem with an ant. Sure, I might not go out of my way to step on one but I don't give a flying fruit about them either, and you won't see me helping them build homes and gather food.

That is probably a perfect summary of Pope Francis's attitude.

Tell me about it.

Wessex · « **Reply #7 on:** November 12, 2013, 05:28:10 AM »

So long as these liturgical trads hide away in their little corner, they can be useful exhibits for enlightened New Agers to gawp at. Their licence to practice it seems has to be renewed from time to time because they do not fully embrace the spirit of the age. There must be something wrong with them .....

RonCal26 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 12, 2013, 05:52:15 AM »

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I have an idea.

The Holy Father should offer the Traditional Latin Mass and anathamize the New Mass.

Yeah, I wish...

LoverOfTradition,

We need to pray for the conversion of Pope Francis (Cardinal Jorge Bergolio) from his apostasy. If he converts, then perhaps we might see a restoration of the True Faith within the Conciliar Church.

Anne Catherine Emmerich, the German mystic and stigmatist, exhorted Catholics during her time to pray unceasingly that the Church of Darkness leaves Rome.

LoverOfTradition · « **Reply #9 on:** November 12, 2013, 12:15:34 PM »

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I have an idea.

The Holy Father should offer the Traditional Latin Mass and anathamize the New Mass.

Yeah, I wish...

LoverOfTradition,

We need to pray for the conversion of Pope Francis (Cardinal Jorge Bergolio) from his apostasy. If he converts, then perhaps we might see a restoration of the True Faith within the Conciliar Church.

Anne Catherine Emmerich, the German mystic and stigmatist, exhorted Catholics during her time to pray unceasingly that the Church of Darkness leaves Rome.

I agree. It's my dream to see the Church of Darkness leave Rome. It's my dream to see the restoration of Holy Mother Church.

Wolves are in charge of our Church. We must pray that St. Michael casts them out.

Domitilla · « **Reply #10 on:** November 12, 2013, 01:10:42 PM »

Would that Francis I would deeply reflect upon the life of his holy predecessor, St. Martin I, Pope and Martyr, whose Feast it is today. St. Martin who uttered the famous statement: "We cannot hold at the same time both truth and error."

"If thou lovest Me, Simon Peter, feed My lambs, feed My sheep."

Wessex · « **Reply #11 on:** November 12, 2013, 03:09:39 PM »

Una Voce will never condemn the Council and the new order. It yields to those who despise it because of a false understanding of authority and obedience. The fear of losing the old Mass has become an obsession, ignoring doctrinal underpinnings. This is the route The SSPX in its own way is slowly taking. Both are heavily engaged in constructing a facade that can sit comfortably with modernity; an outward expression of revivalism that is self-sufficient.

ThomisticPhilosopher · « **Reply #12 on:** November 12, 2013, 03:26:28 PM »

It matters little what this apostate says, this is especially for someone who takes special pride in deeds. He is a man that manifest his beliefs through deeds, he is not the intellectual type. If he wanted to show approval he should at the very least pretend...

However, I think it is good what he is doing at the rate of things soon the majority of tradition will wake up that the man is sitting against the Temple of God. That he is an usurper... He is the biggest blessing since Vatican II, nothing is better then what we have right now. He is truly a son of the Conciliar Church, it is time for us to pay our pound of flesh to "His Holiness" if you consider the man to be your authority. It is time for you to show your real support for him, instead of cowering away. To think that it is possible for the Holy Ghost to have made such a mistake and give you a wolf as a head, is blasphemous.

We can have sinners, but never a wolf... It is a contradiction of terms, most especially to Our most Loving God and Father.

Ora, Ora, Ora... Wicked times indeed.

Stubborn · « **Reply #13 on:** November 12, 2013, 05:29:54 PM »

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He has no problem with the TLM the same way that I have no problem with an ant. Sure, I might not go out of my way to step on one but I don't give a flying fruit about them either, and you won't see me helping them build homes and gather food.

Actually, he is a liar. The OP article starts out: The former prefect of the Congregation for the Clergy has told a traditionalist group that Pope Francis has no intention of restricting access to the Extraordinary Form of the Latin liturgy.
But per Rorate Caeli: Pope Francis severely restricts the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate from celebrating the Traditional Latin Mass, imposes the Novus Ordo on all their priests.

He already proved he has something against the True Mass since he has already forbid the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate from celebrating the Traditional Latin Mass and mandated that they say new "mass".

It's the sameo sameo modernist speak of the last 50 years - say one thing then doing the other. It's amazing how well this repeatedly works.

If they say they have no problem with the TLM, then be assured it means that they are out for blood and expect them to push even harder to do what they can to purge the True Mass from the face of the earth.

Luker · « **Reply #14 on:** November 12, 2013, 06:23:56 PM »

Last year there were some rumors floating around that Benedict had plans to reform and 'update' the 1962 missal to join up the calenders and possibly a hybrid rite. Benedict and others mentioned the 'mutual enriching of the liturgies...' etc etc. Things have been quiet since his retiredness, well retired. I wonder if Bergoglio would have a go at that. That would really panic/sadden the indult crowd. What then my Indult friends? Just stay home on the 'feast day' of 'St John Paul II the Great ' and 'St John the XXIII'?? Hopefully they aren't made into Holy Days of Obligation!!

Luke