Author Topic: Calls from laywoman to expel Bishop Williamson (Read 6008 times)

John Grace · « **on:** July 14, 2012, 06:26:11 AM »

Patricia Mc Keever supports the expulsion of His Lordship
http://www.catholictruthscotland.com/blog/2012/07/sspx-general-chapter-major-changes-ahead/#comments

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The news of the exclusion of Bishop Williamson by the SSPX Superior General, Bishop Bernard Fellay, “due to his stand calling to rebellion and for continually repeated disobedience,” was first confirmed by another leaked letter sent by the General Secretary of the SSPX, Father Thouvenot, on June 25, 2012, which was leaked in the same usual forums on the very same day it was received. The ruling was questioned by Williamson himself, who appealed to the Chapter, whose members subsequently voted, in a secret ballot, to uphold the measure adopted by the Superior General.

The decision seems to show that the Superior General has kept his authority within the SSPX in these decisive months of discussions and decisions regarding the Society and the Holy See. Read more

What changes, if any, face the Society after the General Chapter this weekend? The expulsion of Bishop Williamson seems certain, and perhaps others. What, in your view, lies ahead for the Society?

Seems a tad optimistic to think that the expulsion of Bishop Williamson will make any immediate difference to the prospects of the Society’s relationship with Rome, given the two recent shocking appointments in the Vatican discussed elsewhere on this blog.

Tell us your thoughts…

Then amazingly she expects people to attend a rosary rally she is involved in.

John Grace · « **Reply #1 on:** July 14, 2012, 06:30:34 AM »

She has been spoken to before about various matters but seems to be continuing an attack on the Bishop.

She had the cheek to suggest those who sent a letter to Bishop Fellay had added names without permission.

Obviously the Scottish version of Dorothy Banks. Fr Morgan needs to take firm action against Mc Keever. He should denounce her from the pulpit and deny her the sacraments in SSPX chapels.

John Grace · « **Reply #2 on:** July 14, 2012, 06:42:25 AM »

It's amazing how she is shocked by the recent appointments in the Vatican yet would be delighted if the Bishop is expelled.

Sunbeam · « **Reply #3 on:** July 14, 2012, 06:44:44 AM »

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Fr Morgan needs to take firm action against Mc Keever.

...such as permanently separating her from her well-worn McKee-board.

John Grace · « **Reply #4 on:** July 14, 2012, 06:48:10 AM »

A question I have for her is does she still expect SSPX supporters to give money to support her 'Catholic Truth' publication. Last year she shared a platform with Society priests in Ireland down in Cork. Given her attack on the Bishop and allowing the Catholic Truth blog to be used to attack him, I do hope the priests distance themselves from her.

John Grace · « **Reply #5 on:** July 14, 2012, 06:53:04 AM »

She even has a poll on the Catholic Truth blog asking should the Bishop be expelled.Bishop Williamson has remained faithful to the mission of Archbishop Lefebvre so what is this nonsense about 'rebellion'?

John Grace · « **Reply #6 on:** July 14, 2012, 06:56:38 AM »

'Marinaio' writes

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I hope I am not reading into your comments your desire to see a unity of the SSPX that includes Richard Williamson and his partisans and proteges. No, +Williamson needs to go — the sooner the better — and take the Fathers Pfeiffer, Chazal, Hewko, and others who publicly flaunted disobedience toward their superiors. This will be the truly unifying act: to wish Richard Willilamson and his cohorts “Godspeed” and farewell — in charity hopefully, but with finality, for sure!

John Grace · « **Reply #7 on:** July 14, 2012, 07:05:50 AM »

Whilst some had not heard of the letter but would of signed it, I have great admiration for those that did sign the "impertinent letter".

John Grace · « **Reply #8 on:** July 14, 2012, 07:08:12 AM »

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She has been spoken to before about various matters but seems to be continuing an attack on the Bishop.

She had the cheek to suggest those who sent a letter to Bishop Fellay had added names without permission.

Obviously the Scottish version of Dorothy Banks. Fr Morgan needs to take firm action against Mc Keever. He should denounce her from the pulpit and deny her the sacraments in SSPX chapels.

I was far too harsh to suggest denying her the sacraments but my admiration is for those that did sign the "impertinent" letter. I would have more regard for them than I would for Mc Keever. Let her criticise His Lordship all she likes.

And no, he is not beyond criticism but she herself is shocked by the Vatican appointments.What else does she expect?

John Grace · « **Reply #9 on:** July 14, 2012, 07:21:46 AM »

She is strange though as she associates with Fr Gruner and Fr Kramer, whom many in the Novus Ordo world regard as discredited and the 'lunatic fringe' yet opposes a Bishop who has always upheld doctrine and never strayed from the mission of the Archbishop.

Many already regard her publication as a 'rag' and 'lunatic fringe' so it makes no sense for her to attack the Bishop and allow the blog to be a platform to attack him.Yes, it allows discussion and 'opinion' but its editorial is clearly anti-Bishop Williamson.

It can't be because of his position regarding the Jєωs as 'Catholic Truth' defended Robert Sungenis in the past.

Clint · « **Reply #10 on:** July 14, 2012, 07:21:48 AM »

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Calls from Scotland to expel Bishop Williamson

The title is sensationalistic. It actually should read call from a nobody layperson from Scotland, to expel Bishop Williamson.

This person is the equivalent of a bed bug in Bishop Williamson house.

John Grace · « **Reply #11 on:** July 14, 2012, 07:37:34 AM »

Nobody is disputing there is differing opinions. For example in Ireland, one lady who teaches SSPX children often wears trousers. Some ladies obviously disagree with the Bishop in relation to wearing trousers

I guess they feel more liberated wearing trousers or when they take a university degree. I mean here women in general.

People laughed at him when he told the truth about 9/11. Mossad were behind it but the 'conspiracy theory' culture has turned it to a joke.

He was "imprudent" when he told the truth about the 'h0Ɩ0cαųst' and the myth of the gas chambers.

I don't doubt for a moment SSPX attendee's laughed. "Crazy Williamson".

The trouble for those who laugh and smirk is can they point out where he opposed doctrine or preached falsehood or lies?

Sunbeam · « **Reply #12 on:** July 14, 2012, 07:39:53 AM »

Quote from: Marinaio (via John Grace)

+Williamson needs to go — the sooner the better — and take the Fathers Pfeiffer, Chazal, Hewko, and others who publicly flaunted disobedience toward their superiors.

Does this sort of comment not smack of pure hypocrisy when, for 40 years or so, the SSPX has "publicly flaunted disobedience" toward the very persons whom it has held to be in possession of supreme ecclesiastical authority on earth?

sedetrad · « **Reply #13 on:** July 14, 2012, 07:56:33 AM »

This woman should shut her yap. She embarrasses herself with her ignorant statements.

John Grace · « **Reply #14 on:** July 14, 2012, 07:57:04 AM »

It would be wrong of me not to suggest to pray the rosary with her. Whilst I did disagree with Ashmolean, I would still join him on a picket at an abortuary.

He was correct to seek facts. I never disputed this. I assumed people would and not take things at face value.

On this point regarding Patricia Mc Keever, she has got it wrong. She admits herself the Vatican appointments are shocking.

These discussions with Rome have been the "dialogue of the deaf"

Whilst a deal seems dead hopefully the General Chapter bears positive fruit.