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Author Topic: Bsp. Williamson: "Belief in N.O. Eucharistic Miracles Necessary for Holy Oils"  (Read 19839 times)

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Offline Marulus Fidelis

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  • In an Ecuмenical Council, the Holy Ghost is the Author of the infallible pronouncements therein.  Vatican II does not contain a single infallible pronouncement.  In fact, both conciliar popes explicitly stated, 'We will not define anything in this council'.  Consequently, I cannot even see how Vatican II could possibly be a Council (capital 'C').

    Paul VI inserted the Note into the official council text during the sessions.  It is officially part of the text, not just a sticky note stuck on afterwards.

    Read the relevant passage again, "...the sacred [sic] council defines as binding on the Church only those things in matters of faith and morals which it shall openly declare to be binding".  As there is no such instance in the entire collection of docuмents, this passage means in plain English, "Throw out whatever you choose in these docuмents".

    Interpreting that line in the way you did in the capitalized section of your post ironically involves Olympic-level mental gymnastics to say the least.
    Every docuмent of the Council ends with the solemn approval and promulgation by Paul VI's imaginary apostolic authority.

    If you believe he had apostolic authority your Church's official, binding teaching is the whole of V2.

    Also, parts of the council indicate heresies are contained in Divine Revelation, which is infallible language.

    See here for ample proof:
    https://schismatic-home-aloner.com/vatican-ii-infallible/

    Offline Gunter

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  • What is it that you intend to say, by posting the above quote from Sacred Scripture?

    Are you saying that you have a far better and more profound idea of what is going on with the Crisis in the Church, and the rest of us haven't got a clue?
    The imposter hierarchy are heretics using a schismactic rite.  Therefore it's prudent to hold doubts regarding thier office in the Church.   Catholics want Catholic rites and Catholic clergy period.   If not then resisting VII modernism is meaningless. 


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  • The imposter hierarchy are heretics using a schismactic rite.  Therefore it's prudent to hold doubts regarding thier office in the Church.  Catholics want Catholic rites and Catholic clergy period.  If not then resisting VII modernism is meaningless.

    Then why did Archbishop Lefebvre resist Vll Modernism?
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

    Offline Gunter

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  • Then why did Archbishop Lefebvre resist Vll Modernism?
    Our Lord sent many Faithful Catholics the Grace to discern the revolution within the Church.  My parents responded to the Grace as did Archbishop Lefebvre. 

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  • Our Lord sent many Faithful Catholics the Grace to discern the revolution within the Church.  My parents responded to the Grace as did Archbishop Lefebvre.

    Alright, but why did Archbishop Lefebvre resist Vll Modernism? Actually, he also resisted pre-Vll Modernism. Otherwise, he would have called his Society the SSPX?
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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  • Every docuмent of the Council ends with the solemn approval and promulgation by Paul VI's imaginary apostolic authority.

    If you believe he had apostolic authority your Church's official, binding teaching is the whole of V2.

    Also, parts of the council indicate heresies are contained in Divine Revelation, which is infallible language.

    See here for ample proof:
    https://schismatic-home-aloner.com/vatican-ii-infallible/
    The pope does not make an infallible pronouncement just by approving something.  One of the conditions for an infallible pronouncement is that the pope must say explicitly that he intends to bind every Catholic forever.  Usually this is done in the negative form: "Whoever says such-and-such is not so, let him be anathema".  This never occurs even once in the council text.  On the contrary, once again, the council itself explicitly denies its infallibility.