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Author Topic: Bsp. Williamson: "Belief in N.O. Eucharistic Miracles Necessary for Holy Oils"  (Read 27512 times)

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Offline Ladislaus

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My guess is that he made a lame excuse to deny the oils, and now he doesn't want to take it back.

Yeah, so ... according to Sean Johnson's initial speculation as well.  If that's the case, +Williamson really should articulate the REAL reasons, because this is misleading to the faithful, giving the impression that acceptance of NO "Eucharistic miracles" is a requirement to be Catholic and to not sin against the Holy Ghost.

Offline Ladislaus

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Description of the Sokolka incident (2008):
https://fargodiocese.net/news/the-eucharistic-miracle-of-sokolka

Description of a similar incident in Utah (2015):
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/33173/utah-diocese-miracles-happen-the-bleeding-host-wasnt-one

Description of a similar incident in Minnesota (2011):
https://www.startribune.com/archdiocese-blood-red-host-not-a-miracle-but-result-of-fungus/135600233/
https://www.startribune.com/blood-red-host-is-no-miracle-lab-tests-show/135632408/

Description of a similar incident in New Jersey (2020):
http://www.livedigitaleditions.com/publication/?i=652763&article_id=3620539&view=articleBrowser

The last three were proven to be a red bread fungus by laboratory scientists.

Yeah, scientific "evidence" is regularly being debunked.

And, if there is one that stands up to scientific scrutiny, there's always the possibility that the devil could have simulated such "miracles".  It would be a very simple matter for the devil to swap out the bread for a piece of heart tissue, with the correct blood type (matching the Shroud, for instance), etc.


Yeah, so ... according to Sean Johnson's initial speculation as well.  If that's the case, +Williamson really should articulate the REAL reasons, because this is misleading to the faithful, giving the impression that acceptance of NO "Eucharistic miracles" is a requirement to be Catholic and to not sin against the Holy Ghost.

Given His Excellency's attitude towards other controversial topics, we are highly unlikely to have a clarification on this matter.

Offline Ladislaus

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Very well written article about these alleged NO miracles, including some citations from "scientists" who disagree with even the scientific conclusion:

https://catholiccandle.neocities.org/priests/williamson-bad-fruits-miracles
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In fact, there are other researchers who are skeptical about the alleged “miracle”. But Bishop Williamson does not tell his readers about them. For example, Professor Lech Chyczewski, one of Sobaniec-Lotowaska’s own colleagues at the same medical university in Bialystok, Poland, disagrees with her.  He criticized the way his colleague (Sobaniec-Lotowaska) carried out her test on which Bishop Williamson relies. Id. Chyczewski added that Sobaniec-Lotowaska saw what she wanted to see and that she has an emotional approach to faith. Id.

Another inconvenient point for those supporting the supposed Sokolka “miracle” is that Dr. Pawel Grzesiowskia (a biologist from Poland’s National Medical Institute) proposes a natural (bacterial) explanation for the “red discoloration” in the host. Id.

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There are many levels on which Bishop Williamson acts rashly concerning these false “miracles”. First, it is obvious that the devil greatly gains when people promote “miracles” which lend credence to the conciliar revolution, which is his work. It would be very easy for the devil to work these false “miracles”, through both natural and preternatural means.

Further, besides the devil’s interest in promoting these “miracles”, it is natural for conciliar Catholics to want to believe that God is working in their revolutionary church. These conciliar Catholics should know by the natural law that they have a duty to be God-centered and might even naturally yearn for this. Yet they plainly belong to a man-centered (false) conciliar religion. It is only natural for conciliar Catholics to want to quiet the “little voice” inside themselves by latching onto these conciliar “miracles” which purport to “show” that God approves of their man-centered conciliar religion.

Also, there are other conciliar Catholics who try to “canonize” the conciliar revolution by promoting conciliar “miracles” and “visions” (such as Medjugorje). A prudent Traditional Catholic would no more accept the conciliar church promoting “miracles” at the new mass than he would accept “miracles” attributed to so-called “saint” John Paul II.

.... misleading to the faithful, giving the impression that acceptance of NO "Eucharistic miracles" is a requirement to be Catholic and to not sin against the Holy Ghost.
Actually, he said the sin against the Holy Ghost is the "repeated denial of true scientific evidence" and not the "acceptance of NO 'Eucharistic miracles.' " The qualifying condition is that the evidence must be both "scientific" and "true." If the evidence is speculative, falsified, or even disputed, then the condition the bishop states regarding the sinfulness of the denial will not apply.