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Author Topic: Bsp. Williamson: "Belief in N.O. Eucharistic Miracles Necessary for Holy Oils"  (Read 28068 times)

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Offline Ladislaus

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I find this demand to be rather strange:
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Make up your mind. Choose.

Either you write in public, to all those people that you normally write to, that you have been wrong to deny the possibility of Eucharistic miracles at Novus Ordo Masses, and you quote several cases of such miracles which you now admit to have taken place. And you will have to persuade me that you sincerely mean what you write, and that you are not writing it just to deceive me. Judging by your past behavior that will be very difficult for you to do. And I have to remain the judge as to whether you may or may not have done it. And if you try any form of weaseling out of it, I will never again read an email of yours. Choose.

Or you find yourself a bishop who agrees with you. How about Bishop Pfeiffer?

In Christ,

Bp. Williamson

It does seem to indicate that Bishop Williamson would give him the Holy Oils if he were to publicly agree not only in the "possibility" that NO Eucharistic miracles have taken place but to cite "several case" where he admits that they HAD taken place.  I have to say this is bizarre, to make this a condition for receiving Holy Oils.  Who doesn't know that belief in miracles and private revelations is not obligatory?  If Bishop Williamson had other, deeper, problems with Father Hewko, that would be one thing ... but to fixate on something this trivial?

Offline Meg

Disagreements are 100% normal, an inevitable result of Original Sin.  God knew this so He appointed the Hierarchy and Magisterium to deal with them.  There’s no sin until there’s actual sin, souls are harmed.  Both Bp. W. and Fr. H. have taken it to the point where souls are being harmed.  They need to repent, deal with matter IN PRIVATE, and get on with it.  End of story. 

How are souls being harmed exactly, and who is responsible, in your view? 


I find this demand to be rather strange:
It does seem to indicate that Bishop Williamson would give him the Holy Oils if he were to publicly agree not only in the "possibility" that NO Eucharistic miracles have taken place but to cite "several case" where he admits that they HAD taken place.  I have to say this is bizarre, to make this a condition for receiving Holy Oils.  Who doesn't know that belief in miracles and private revelations is not obligatory?  If Bishop Williamson had other, deeper, problems with Father Hewko, that would be one thing ... but to fixate on something this trivial?

You’re in a rut.  This has already been explained to you.

The fact that Bishop Williamson still promotes Garabandal is baffling.  I understand that it was what converted him back when it was new, but now it is obvious that it is a false apparition.  Rejecting new mass miracles is the safer route, since were not obliged to believe private revelations.  As Ladislaus said, for them to be real, it would imply that God approves of the bogus ordo.

Consider that both Fr. Hewko and Bp. Williamson were subjected to occult curses from a Santeria Warlock.

1. Fr. Hewko was exposed to Cuban voodoo for 7 years. :facepalm:

2. Bp. Williamson surely suffered an attack when he stayed at the Pfeiffer farm in 2013.
    (HE starts condoning the Novus ordo missae in the late Fall of 2015).
   
3. Even Bp. Tissier was exposed to a Santeria malefice, when Pablo crashed his Chicago priory living quarters around 2015.

Make no mistake. 
Infiltration of traditional Catholic venues and Santeria curses are the only thing that makes the demonically inspired, Mexican warlock tick.

Offline Meg


Consider that both Fr. Hewko and Bp. Williamson were subjected to occult curses from a Santeria Warlock.

1. Fr. Hewko was exposed to Cuban voodoo for 7 years. :facepalm:

2. Bp. Williamson surely suffered an attack when he stayed at the Pfeiffer farm in 2013.
    (HE starts condoning the Novus ordo missae in the late Fall of 2015).
   
3. Even Bp. Tissier was exposed to a Santeria malefice, when Pablo crashed his Chicago priory living quarters around 2015.

Make no mistake. 
Infiltration of traditional Catholic venues and Santeria curses are the only thing that makes the demonically inspired, Mexican warlock tick.


Wasn't Fr. Chazal with Fr. Pfeiffer's group at one time? Maybe I'm not remembering that correctly.