Don't get sucked in here by Johnson, who's deliberately changing the subject.  We've debated about whether God WOULD work miracles through the NOM.  Since we're not God, it's purely speculative on both sides.  I think Johnson is wrong, but that's NOT the issue here.  What's at issue is +Williamson's dogmatizing the NO "Eucharistic miracles", characterizing them as a requirement to be in "his Church", to receive Holy Oils, and to avoid sinning against the Holy Ghost.

Sean needs to defend that assertion from +Williamson and not the possibility that the NO "Eucharistic miracles" might be legit.  He's been sidestepping that by distraction, arguing about the NO "miracles" instead.

This fighting between two traditional men with Holy Orders is probably the saddest thing I've seen on this forum. Can't one of them take the high road? Is the counsel of Our Lord in the Sermon on the Mount just theoretical and not practical? "Blessed are the peacemakers..." We are supposed to be the Cream of the Crop among Catholics. No one ever said that the virtue of Charity is easy. What's happened to us? "...if you have anything against your neighbor, make amends before you bring your gift to the altar"....."Lord, how many times must I forgive my neighbor, seven times? "No, Peter, seventy times seven." I've lost tons of respect for both of them. And I do hope that +Zendejas doesn't figure in to Fr. Hewko's having to beg for Oils from His Grace. Why would FrH have to appeal to +Williamson way across the sea when he could receive them locally? Unless....

This thread has little to do with Eucharistic miracles and everything to do with a defiant priest very publicly and energetically attacking the sole faithful bishop of the SSPX, to the point of "Fake Resistance", and then expecting his support.

Why the attack on Bishop Williamson by this priest, Fr David Hewko? For holding opinions that are not forbidden by the Catholic Faith.

This is not at all about Eucharisitc miracles - Bishop Williamson is as good as saying to Fr Hewko that he will come to his succour the moment he publicly apologises for his outrageous attacks and publicly reconciles with the bishop he should never have separated from. As the Bishop says, he needs to choose.

Publishing this correspondence of his with the good Bishop is the latest of the miserable attempts of Fr Hewko at self-justification. Nothing could give BW clearer proof of his unrepentance.

The idea that BW ought to accede to the requests of this priest without his publicly reconciling with him are utterly outrageous and neither for the glory of God nor the salvation of souls. Fr Hewko has led faithful all around the world down a dead end of no priests, no sacraments, no Church... there are faithful of his that are already effectively at this point, so isolated are they from this "one faithful priest" (!) that they will never receive another sacrament before they die.

Only one thing must happen: this delinquent priest must fall on his knees and ask Bishop Williamson forgiveness and get back to work with the other good priests advancing the Kingdom of God on Earth.

Let us pray that he does that.

So you're saying that Bishop Williamson is a liar?  He stated very concretely that it is "all about Eucharistic miracles" (as you put it) in terms of whether he'd give Father Hewko the Holy Oils, that denying the NO "miracles" means that he's not in the "same Church" that he's in and that it's tantamount to a sin against the Holy Ghost.

Too bad he's a liar and completely distorted what Bishop Williamson said.

As an aside, has His Excellency stated his views one way or the other regarding the Flat Earth/Globe Earth debate?

Gee, the Asian Accordist pretending sorrow for the "decline" of Williamson.

As if that wasn't predictable.

Too bad he's a liar and completely distorted what Bishop Williamson said.