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Author Topic: Bsp. Williamson: "Belief in N.O. Eucharistic Miracles Necessary for Holy Oils"  (Read 32888 times)

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It seems to me that if the good bishop sincerely believes these miraculous fruits come from the Novus Ordo Missae, he should reconcile with the church who authored it. If the NO missae comes from the Church and is thus valid, good and holy (in some cases?), what was the purpose of defending the Tridentine Mass all of these years?

Why woud Williamson reconcile with the conciliar church?

Also: Please provide a quote of Williamson describing the Novus Ordo rite as "good and holy."

When Williamson dies who will be your next infallible guide?

You.


I will gladly attack any eccentrics who believe in any dogmas proclaimed after 1950.

Judging from Bp. Williamson's response posted by Sean Johnson, the good bishop has apparently become much more eccentric than usual lately.

I have a huge respect for him, but somethings simply cannot be accepted.

Bogus Marian apparitions, Valtorta, attendance at the Novus Ordo Mass, and now, the "reality" of a "miracle".:facepalm:

Can you please quote +Williamson stating a dogma was proclaimed after 1950?

Yeah, scientific "evidence" is regularly being debunked.

And, if there is one that stands up to scientific scrutiny, there's always the possibility that the devil could have simulated such "miracles".  It would be a very simple matter for the devil to swap out the bread for a piece of heart tissue, with the correct blood type (matching the Shroud, for instance), etc.

I note you are always emphasizing the possibility the evidence could be tampered with, bunk, diabolic, etc.

What you never allow is that it is possibly authentic (i.e., even the possibility is a priori unacceptable/impossible).

That's YOUR error, not Williamson's.

Actually, he said the sin against the Holy Ghost is the "repeated denial of true scientific evidence" and not the "acceptance of NO 'Eucharistic miracles.' " The qualifying condition is that the evidence must be both "scientific" and "true." If the evidence is speculative, falsified, or even disputed, then the condition the bishop states regarding the sinfulness of the denial will not apply.

Please don't bother them with pesky details like this.  They're busy pumping each other up, for the glory of sedevacantism and the last uncompromised priest on earth (Hewko).