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Author Topic: Bsp. Williamson: "Belief in N.O. Eucharistic Miracles Necessary for Holy Oils"  (Read 27917 times)

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It is true that requiring Father Hewko to accept the veracity of N.O. Eucharistic miracles as a litmus test for receiving holy oils is confusing, and, on the face of it, ridiculous.

Reading through the lines though, His Excellency seems to be saying:

“Why should I provide you with Holy Oils after you have publicly tarred and feathered me for the last several years, especially given the fact that we have no formal affiliation?”

Is there any precedent, rule,  or Canon Law etc that would require His Excellency to provide Father Hewko with Holy Oils? Maybe Ladislaus or Sean or a poster with knowledge of the subject could chime in. 

As to the poster who referenced Fr Hewko’s dealings with the Canadian faithful, I have heard the same thing. It seems that Bishop Williamson is not the only clergy making, on the face of it, unreasonable demands. 

Fr Hewko has essentially excommunicated all other traditional clergy axe and sundry, he has demanded that his faithful red light all “compromised” Masses, etc, and now he, and his faithful, are paying the steep price for it.

Poor Bishop Williamson is addled in the head, it’s the most charitable thing anyone can say of him. He’s been promoting active attendance in the new mass since 2015, and his own bishops should have corrected him. This is the latest outrage, demanding obeisance to the conciliar church as a condition for holy oils? If he said, “since you attack me, I won’t give you holy oils,” that might be petty, but even that would be more reasonable. Williamson is the one who wanted a “resistance without leaders,” which is why we have so many personality clashes. It’s time for Williamson to go sit in a monastery garden, reminisce about the old days, and retire from active ministry.


Offline Matthew

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Another great question.

There was a time when being Catholic was enough for getting Holy Oils from the nearest bishop...not anymore.

Now you need to believe in doubtful things as if they were dogma.


No, you do not.

Let's not muddy the waters. +W doesn't require any of his priests or faithful to believe in any private revelations, nor to have a positive opinion of any particular works of literature (Valtorta for example).

I agree with the other poster who said Fr. Hewko is not sincere. How do you deal with such a situation?

Next point -- you don't know how things worked before Vatican II. Priests didn't just get holy oils from "the nearest bishop". There was structure, hierarchy, and certainly obedience going from the priests towards their bishop. There was jurisdiction and a flow of authority from the top down. Bishops had specific territories. Priests had assignments where they were placed by their bishop.

Many independent priests in Tradition today (of whom Fr. Hewko is a *classic* example) want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to owe obedience to no bishop, but they want those bishops to give them holy oils and Confirmations. Demand them, even. How is that proper?

Fr Hewko has essentially excommunicated all other traditional clergy axe and sundry, he has demanded that his faithful red light all “compromised” Masses, etc,
Except when a familly member wants to get married or they need a Requiem Mass and burial for a loved one then they demand the services of the SSPX then walk out the door back to Fr. Hewko until the next time they need something.  He's trained them well.

As for a "compromised Mass"...:facepalm:  just what is that?  Are valid priests offering a different Mass?
Seems like they are cutting off their nose to spite their face.

Offline Pax Vobis

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When you deny the genuinely scientific evidence in favor of miracles taking place at Novus Ordo Masses said by Novus Ordo priests consecrated by Novus Ordo bishops, such as happened in Sokolka, Poland, in 2008, you are not living in the same world or Church as I am.

Please resort to any bishop who shares your own attitude towards reality. Please do not ask me again for Oils for as long as you are defying reality.
:facepalm:  +Bishop Williamson, I will continue to pray for you, but you've lost it.  :facepalm: