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It seems to me that he’s on his way, if he already hasn’t gotten there, to rejecting the nopes after Pope Pius XII. His denouncing of ecuмenism, VII, and his calling it an “honor” to be excommunicated by Bergoglio is a big plus in my estimation. I’m 95% on board right now, he’s looking good.

I hope, instead, that Archbishop Vigano publicly states that only Jorge Bergoglio is not a true pope.

Offline Meg

There are two hyperbolic sayings (questions) which demonstrate the problem with your position. 1) Are you more Catholic than the pope? 2) Is the pope Catholic?

Both of these “questions” have the same connotation as saying: “is grass green?” and “is water wet?”

A person who holds the sedevacantist position can still avail himself to the use of those two rhetorical questions.

Your bizarre notion about Catholicism turns those questions on their head because you truly believe that you are, in fact, more Catholic than the pope. An honest person will see the inherent problem with this.

The entire issue of being "more catholic than the Pope," is a doctrine of the sedevacantist religion, and just one of the many accusations that adherents of the sedevacantist religion lobby against non-sedevacantists, as if we do not have the right to question the words and actions of a Pope. The Pope is not God, though many sedevacantists believe that he is. That's another false doctrine of the sedevacantists - that the Pope is God, and therefore cannot do anything against the Catholic Faith, because God would not do anything against the Catholic Faith.

In fact, the Pope is mentioned far more often than Our Lord Jesus Christ, by the sedevacantists. Is the Pope more important, do you believe, than Jesus Christ? Are you aware that Jesus Christ is the actual head of the Catholic Church?



The entire issue of being "more catholic than the Pope," is a doctrine of the sedevacantist religion, and just one of the many accusations that adherents of the sedevacantist religion lobby against non-sedevacantists, as if we do not have the right to question the words and actions of a Pope. The Pope is not God, though many sedevacantists believe that he is. That's another false doctrine of the sedevacantists - that the Pope is God, and therefore cannot do anything against the Catholic Faith, because God would not do anything against the Catholic Faith.

In fact, the Pope is mentioned far more often than Our Lord Jesus Christ, by the sedevacantists. Is the Pope more important, do you believe, than Jesus Christ? Are you aware that Jesus Christ is the actual head of the Catholic Church?
Do you believe that the condemnation of any historical fill in the blank heretic by faithful Catholic clergy at the time of their crimes should have only been theoretical and not actual? 

Offline Stubborn

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The entire issue of being "more catholic than the Pope," is a doctrine of the sedevacantist religion, and just one of the many accusations that adherents of the sedevacantist religion lobby against non-sedevacantists, as if we do not have the right to question the words and actions of a Pope. The Pope is not God, though many sedevacantists believe that he is. That's another false doctrine of the sedevacantists - that the Pope is God, and therefore cannot do anything against the Catholic Faith, because God would not do anything against the Catholic Faith.

In fact, the Pope is mentioned far more often than Our Lord Jesus Christ, by the sedevacantists. Is the Pope more important, do you believe, than Jesus Christ? Are you aware that Jesus Christ is the actual head of the Catholic Church?
I'm all out of upthumbs for you Meg, but you keep hitting the nail squarely on the head! Thank you! Good posts!

In all of Church history, I do not believe the obsession with the status of popes has ever been more prevalent than it is these days among many of the the sedes, at least here. 

Perhaps if the sedes ever accept the fact that the whole idea of sedeism is nothing more than just their own non-binding and could well be wrong opinion, this obsession might fade completely away, along with the disunity that is inherent within it.

The entire issue of being "more catholic than the Pope," is a doctrine of the sedevacantist religion, and just one of the many accusations that adherents of the sedevacantist religion lobby against non-sedevacantists, as if we do not have the right to question the words and actions of a Pope. The Pope is not God, though many sedevacantists believe that he is. That's another false doctrine of the sedevacantists - that the Pope is God, and therefore cannot do anything against the Catholic Faith, because God would not do anything against the Catholic Faith.

In fact, the Pope is mentioned far more often than Our Lord Jesus Christ, by the sedevacantists. Is the Pope more important, do you believe, than Jesus Christ? Are you aware that Jesus Christ is the actual head of the Catholic Church?
Meg perfectly describes an anti christ. Therfore anyone with the ability to influence others wrongly should be resisted in fact.
A pilot that merely successfully lands his plane every time may not necessarily be a good pilot.  But, one who intentionally flies his plane into a building and kills everyone is considered a murderer.