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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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So, not becoming a sedevacantist will lead to my demise. This is cult thinking. It reminds me of the Charismatics, who believe that speaking in tongues is the only authentic form of Catholicism. You believe the same about sedevacantism, in that it is the only authentic form of Catholicism at this time, isn't that correct? Both Sedevacantism and Charismaticism are novelties; the precepts of which are not a part of the Deposit of Faith.

+Vigano is leading you and others into error. That's your choice. I do not have to choose it.

Again: When we get a true pope, are you going to listen to him and obediently follow his teachings or will you continue to follow your own caprice, sifting through and questioning his teachings, as you do with your current “pope” Bergoglio? 

Offline Meg

Again: When we get a true pope, are you going to listen to him and obediently follow his teachings or will you continue to follow your own caprice, sifting through and questioning his teachings, as you do with your current “pope” Bergoglio?

There's no Church doctrine which says that if we have a heretical Pope, then we, the laity, must proclaim to everyone that he is not the pope.

Of course the lines between laity and clergy are blurred, in that now we, the laity, become the arbitors of all that is truly Catholic. Isn't that what Bergolio is trying to do with the synod business? A priesthood of the laity? We already have that in the world of tradition, where the sedevacantists are the new lay clergy. They (you) tell us what we are to believe in order to save our souls. It's very prideful, and lacks humility. As I said, a novelty.


There's no Church doctrine which says that if we have a heretical Pope, then we, the laity, must proclaim to everyone that he is not the pope.

Of course the lines between laity and clergy are blurred, in that now we, the laity, become the arbitors of all that is truly Catholic. Isn't that what Bergolio is trying to do with the synod business? A priesthood of the laity? We already have that in the world of tradition, where the sedevacantists are the new lay clergy. They (you) tell us what we are to believe in order to save our souls. It's very prideful, and lacks humility. As I said, a novelty.

If you come to hold that Jorge Bergoglio is a public manifest formal heretic, then you must in conscience reject him as pope.  This is because the public sin of manifest formal heresy by its very nature separates the heretic from the Church.

Offline Meg

If you come to hold that Jorge Bergoglio is a public manifest formal heretic, then you must in conscience reject him as pope.  This is because the public sin of manifest formal heresy by its very nature separates the heretic from the Church.

So saith one of our sedevacantist overlords here. You have no jurisdiction over me. YOU do not get to tell me what to believe or what I must do. 

Offline Ladislaus

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A pope is commissioned by Christ to confirm his brethren in the Faith. A Catholic is one who professes the True Faith, as defined by Pope Pius XII. Your “pope”, Bergoglio, does neither of those things. He is not a Catholic and thus cannot be the head of that of which he’s not a member of.

The reason I say: ‘you better start listening to him’, is because your erroneous position will eventually lead to your demise. This is not fun and games Meg, this is a serious affair in which your immortal soul is at stake. When we get a true pope, are you going to listen to him and obediently follow his teachings or will you continue to follow your own caprice, sifting through and questioning his teachings, as you do with your current “pope” Bergoglio?

I think it's hopeless.  We've been promoting these "Fundamentals of Catholicism 101" here on CI for years and it simply "does not compute" to minds that have been corrupted by R&R.  Unfortunately, many here have been reduced to little more than thinly-veiled Old Catholics.  In order to salvage their "security-blanket" of having some guy walking around Rome in a white cassock whose picture they can put in the vestibule, they're willing to throw the entire Catholic Papacy and the entire Catholic Church (with her marks/notes) under the proverbial bus.  It's a very sad state of affairs.

R&R may be the first and most grave error that a legitimate Traditional pope will have to condemn and correct before all others.