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Offline Catholic Knight

Re: BREAKING: Archbishop Viganò Summoned to Vatican Tribunal on Charge of Schism
« Reply #115 on: June 27, 2024, 06:54:40 AM »
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Offline Mr G

Re: BREAKING: Archbishop Viganò Summoned to Vatican Tribunal on Charge of Schism
« Reply #116 on: June 27, 2024, 07:46:33 AM »
Insecure Narcissism or Greatness in Christ? – Padre Peregrino

It’s a good sign American leftists called me a “schismatic” in my support of Archbishop Viganò this weekend.  To be torn (the definition of schismatic) from an apostate (one who has publicly denied Christ) is a compliment to anyone’s orthodoxy.  I wear it as a badge of honor.  Why?  Because no one can be “a schismatic” in reference to an objective apostate in Rome.  It’s absolutely impossible, even by all definitions of theological crimes for 2000 years.

You know, I have few reasons to believe I’m on the right track, but the fact so many heretics on X call me a “schismatic” (or so I am told by friends with screenshots of me) is one of the few indications I am indeed on the right track to Christ.   But even that doesn’t mean much to my striving for salvation in the end, for as St. Francis of Assisi said: “What you are in God’s sight is what you are—and nothing more.”  God alone will judge me.

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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: BREAKING: Archbishop Viganò Summoned to Vatican Tribunal on Charge of Schism
« Reply #117 on: June 27, 2024, 07:47:23 AM »
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The Church teaches that the public SIN of manifest formal heresy by its very nature separates the heretic from the Church.
Isn't there also a sin of non-manifest, non-formal heresy?  Yes, there is.

So the question becomes:  Who decides what is 'manifest' or not?  You?  Bob, your neighbor?  Does everyone get to decide? 

No, that's not how it works.  That's the definition of protestant chaos.  The Church decides ALONE.  And until She does, we wait.  Until the AUTHORITY of the Church rules, there's no decision.  That's how a hierarchy works.
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Offline Gunter

Re: BREAKING: Archbishop Viganò Summoned to Vatican Tribunal on Charge of Schism
« Reply #118 on: June 27, 2024, 08:30:17 AM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on June 27, 2024, 07:47:23 AM
Isn't there also a sin of non-manifest, non-formal heresy?  Yes, there is.

So the question becomes:  Who decides what is 'manifest' or not?  You?  Bob, your neighbor?  Does everyone get to decide? 

No, that's not how it works.  That's the definition of protestant chaos.  The Church decides ALONE.  And until She does, we wait.  Until the AUTHORITY of the Church rules, there's no decision.  That's how a hierarchy works.
I hope you apply this logic to every living soul!  So don't judge.  

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Offline 2Vermont

Re: BREAKING: Archbishop Viganò Summoned to Vatican Tribunal on Charge of Schism
« Reply #119 on: June 27, 2024, 08:52:59 AM »
I'm confused by the debate/conversation between CK and PV.  Haven't we all been accused of "privately interpreting" wrt Vatican II/the Novus Ordo liturgy/and the popes?  Although I think CK is wrong to only include Bergoglio, why is his stance any more guilty of these things?  If he can't privately interpret, then why can we?  If we are supposed to wait on the supposed hierarchy to judge, why are any of us not attending the local NO in communion with Bergoglio? Shouldn't we all then give up our Traditionalist views and get thee to the Novus Ordo?
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