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BREAKING! SSPX receives agreement from Rome - Bp. Fellay considering it
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2015, 05:43:59 PM »
There's a difference between true and believable.  This information is believable, but not necessarily true.

Matthew, maybe you can ask the source to be disclosed.  If not, you could at least offer a character testimony.

For all we know, it could just be someone who wants the forums to stop focusing on Ambrose Moran and Boston KY.  That'd be believable, if not true.  

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BREAKING! SSPX receives agreement from Rome - Bp. Fellay considering it
« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2015, 06:23:29 PM »
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Has anybody factored in the visit of Bishop Faure to Canada and the USA in the next 3 weeks - interesting coincidence of events. Bishop Tissier might be preparing for a compromise but on the other hand....


Yes, he could be packing his bags to join +W & +F now that the die is cast. I don't believe he will take the train to Rome.


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« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2015, 06:24:40 PM »
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Also attached to this was this tidbit... "Fr. Wegner was in Houston 2 weeks ago, he told the SSPX faithful, 'Don't be surprised if one day you wake up and you are in Rome.'"


This.

This tends to corroborate this pending deal with Rome. Why would Fr. Wegner say this in Houston JUST TWO WEEKS AGO to get us all ready?

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« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2015, 06:28:09 PM »
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Quote from: Ladislaus
1) this is so far only a rumor ... from an anonymous e-mailer

2) even if it's true, there's no certainty that +Fellay will sign it

3) even if he signs it, one would have to read the terms of the agreement to be able to assess the full impact

So let's not jump the gun here.  Several more steps.  It could be sent back to Rome with suggestions for revisions, which Rome then may or may not make, and the whole thing could fizzle again.


In regards to #1, It's not really "anonymous".  It is from an un-named source.  Clearly, Matthew would not have posted an anonymous email without a well-founded reason to believe that the information contained therein is credible.  He has not divulged the identity of the source, but this does not make it "anonymous".

Of course, you are absolutely correct about #2, though I doubt a serious proposal would have been sent to Menzingen without a well-founded belief on the part of the Vatican that the terms are acceptable to Bishop Fellay.

In regards to #3, try as I might, I cannot imagine terms that would be acceptable to Rome that would also be acceptable to a faithful Catholic.  On this matter, however, it's probably better not to speculate because, as we've seen in the past, anything we can think, Modernist Rome can make even more despicable.


Yes indeed. The OP was not positive proof, but it's somewhat more than a baseless rumor whispered in a dark alley by someone in the shadows.

The person used his real name, so he is only anonymous to you and the other CathInfo members :) He is European and his e-mail address was European.

I'm just passing along the news here. His only motivation is to scuttle a deal with Rome, for the good of souls and the SSPX.

P.S. I edited his post (like the editor of a magazine might) for grammar, punctuation, etc. I wanted his writing to be standard English, so you couldn't guess anything about him by his speech. So if he sounds too American -- it's because I corrected the original e-mail. Nothing was substantially changed, however, except for things I intentionally left out for privacy reasons.

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BREAKING! SSPX receives agreement from Rome - Bp. Fellay considering it
« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2015, 06:34:42 PM »
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I'm just passing along the news here. His only motivation is to scuttle a deal with Rome, for the good of souls and the SSPX.


He didn't exactly say that and I wouldn't randomly apply to him such extreme optimism. Here's what he gave as his reason:

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Matthew, there are still many good but extremely naive laymen out there. They cannot imagine +Fellay negotiating with Conciliar Rome. They still hope that there will be no sellout of our beloved Society. But the sooner they are hit by reality the better.