Author Topic: BREAKING! SSPX receives agreement from Rome - Bp. Fellay considering it (Read 59265 times)

Meg · « **Reply #25 on:** November 15, 2015, 04:47:43 PM »

Something for Bp. Fellay to consider: if Francis manages to change Church teaching, under the guise of 'pastoral practice,' then what will keep the SSPX priests (if they reconcile) from being forced to give Holy Communion to anyone who approaches the altar, such as the divorced and remarried, homo, and other living-in-sin Catholics? I've no doubt that Francis will try to allow these unrepentant Catholics to receive communion, if he can possibly find a way to do so.

stgobnait · « **Reply #26 on:** November 15, 2015, 04:49:28 PM »

I believe there has to be a general chapter to vote on a deal or not, but since BF has surrounded himself with yes men, the result is a foregone conclusion..

covet truth · « **Reply #27 on:** November 15, 2015, 04:50:05 PM »

Quote from: Meg

Something for Bp. Fellay to consider: if Francis manages to change Church teaching, under the guise of 'pastoral practice,' then what will keep the SSPX priests (if they reconcile) from being forced to give Holy Communion to anyone who approaches the altar, such as the divorced and remarried, homo, and other living-in-sin Catholics? I've no doubt that Francis will try to allow these unrepentant Catholics to receive communion, if he can possibly find a way to do so.

How could they refuse if they are under Rome?

TKGS · « **Reply #28 on:** November 15, 2015, 04:50:30 PM »

Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant

"Can +Fellay simply sign a binding agreement?"

Of course he can.
Remember the old Military/Bureaucratic saying.
"Tis better to ask forgiveness, than permission."

I guess the real question, then, is how secure is Bishop Fellay that there will not be a major revolt.

Based on what I've read here by and about the supporters of the neo-SSPX, if more than a handful of priests and, perhaps, a few dozen lay-faithful revolted, I would be surprised.

TKGS · « **Reply #29 on:** November 15, 2015, 05:01:10 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus

1) this is so far only a rumor ... from an anonymous e-mailer

2) even if it's true, there's no certainty that +Fellay will sign it

3) even if he signs it, one would have to read the terms of the agreement to be able to assess the full impact

So let's not jump the gun here. Several more steps. It could be sent back to Rome with suggestions for revisions, which Rome then may or may not make, and the whole thing could fizzle again.

In regards to #1, It's not really "anonymous". It is from an un-named source. Clearly, Matthew would not have posted an anonymous email without a well-founded reason to believe that the information contained therein is credible. He has not divulged the identity of the source, but this does not make it "anonymous".

Of course, you are absolutely correct about #2, though I doubt a serious proposal would have been sent to Menzingen without a well-founded belief on the part of the Vatican that the terms are acceptable to Bishop Fellay.

In regards to #3, try as I might, I cannot imagine terms that would be acceptable to Rome that would also be acceptable to a faithful Catholic. On this matter, however, it's probably better not to speculate because, as we've seen in the past, anything we can think, Modernist Rome can make even more despicable.