Within this new scandal of the SSPX “branding”, I think that it is important to know when this (pagan) PR firm from Holland was hired to do the branding of a new image for the SSPX, and its relative timelines associated with other happenings throughout that time to put this all together.

To begin:

•   Fr. Patrick Girouard said in his June 2, 2013 sermon, that the “Branding” for the SSPX started when Fr. Jurgen WEGNER was the District Superior of Holland.

“…So here, I don't know... You know, normally, you brand a cow! But he(Fr. Jurgen WEGNER, district superior of Canada) tells me now that the Society has been branded! So I was able to keep walking, I did not drop dead but... And then he told me: “Yes Father, that is true, and I did it!” Oh! You did it. How did you do it? “Well, when I was in Holland, District Superior, I met with somebody, I became friend with the President of a company...” (and then he named me the name of the company, it is a Flemish name which uh... is too strange to remember) but he said: “This is the fifth most successful company in Holland, so it is a very important company, a very successful company, and a couple of years ago I visited them and I met again with this man, and I asked him to take care of the Society and to do the branding of the Society, because that company is specialized in branding.”

And so Father Wegner asked that man of that company to do the branding of the Society, and so that man said: “I will look into the Society on the website; I will let you know.” A couple of weeks later he phones Father Wegner, and he says: “Father, I refuse; I refuse the contract, because I looked over your name SSPX, and you don't have a good name out there, and I don't want my company to have the blemish of having you as a customer.” So Father Wegner says: “Well, at least give us a chance! Let's hear our own side, what we have to say. I will organize a meeting for you and Bishop Fellay in Menzingen, in Switzerland, and at least give us the chance to answer all of your questions, and after that you will decide!” So the man said : “Fair enough.” So they organize the meeting in Menzingen, and Father Wegner told me that the man went there and asked one hundred and fifty questions to Bishop Fellay, and Bishop Fellay answered all of these questions, and it lasted six hours! For six hours! And, at the end, that man said: “Okay, I will take the contract of the Society, and I will do your branding.”

•   Fr. Jurgen Wegner was the District Superior of Belgium and Holland for 9-years (1999-2008).
•   Then, he became the District Superior of Canada in 2008 taking the place of Fr. Arnaud Rostand.

Therefore, this “branding” happened sometime within that time line 1999-2008.

With the help of others, let’s figure this out by putting events together and see where it leads us.

I will start.

DURING 1999-2008:

•   (1994 – GREC was established.)
•   2000 – SSPX Rome pilgrimage.
•   2006 – SSPX General Chapter with an excellent outcome –Doctrine first.  Rome needs to convert.
•   2007 - The Motu Proprio happened in setting the Traditional Mass as second place - “Extraordinary”.


AFTER 2008:

•   2008 - Fr. Jurgen WEGNER becomes the District Superior of Canada.  (What did he implement there to foster this “branding”?)
•   2008 - Fr. Rostand becomes the District Superior of the U.S.  (What did he implement there to foster this “branding”?)
•   2009 - Bishop Fellay removes Bishop Williamson from the active apostolate; sending him into an attic in London, England.
•   2009 - The “lifting” of the excommunications happened without mentioning Archbishop Lefebvre or Bishop de Castro Mayer.
•   2011 – SSPX has exchanges with conciliar Rome for a “practical agreement”.
•   2012 – SSPX has secret workings with conciliar Rome.
•   2012 – Exchange letters of the 3-sspx Bishops, Bishop Fellay’s (scandalous) return letter to them.
•   2012 – Bishop Fellay’s (scandalous) Doctrinal Declaration.
•   2012 – SSPX General Chapter with the (scandalous) 6-conditions.
•   2012 – Major exposure of SSPX scandals.
•   2012 – Expulsions of many priests and Bishop Williamson who do not agree with the new “doctrines” of the new SSPX.
•   2012 - Fr. Rostand announces in his “Christmas appeal” that they have started updating with a new image.
•   2013 – sspx.org changes their website to a new “image” for the world.


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Original source articles:

Key sermon:  http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Key-sermon

BOMBSHELL Breaking News - Menzingen hires PR Firm, To re-brand SSPX:  http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=25094&min=0&num=5

Sad, but what do we do?

The New church is wrong.
The FSSP is wrong.
The SSPX is wrong.

Who's right? What does the traditional catholic do? Start our own church? At some point, something has to go our way. I am confused.

 

The Faith of our Baptism is right.  The SSPX of Archbishop Lefebvre is right.  The N-SSPX is wrong in it's path; like conciliar Rome had done since Vatican II.

With this trust and hope as a faithful Catholic, it is always going our way.  God is just asking us to help Him to go through the "crucifixion" of His spouse, the Holy Catholic Church, on the cross of humiliation; then to be a part of Her rising Glory when time is right in God's mind.

In total surrender with Mary, in Mary, and through Mary, for Jesus.

In refining the timeline, I noticed an overlook on my part that Fr. Wegner had also said to Fr. Girouard in October 2012, that: "...a couple of years ago I visited them and I met again with this man [in Holland], and I asked him to take care of the Society and to do the branding of the Society, because that company is specialized in branding.”

That would seem to indicate that the beginnings of this branding happened around 2010 (a couple of years ago).

If so, that would make this even more interesting.  For the fact that in 2009 the second "condition" of Bishop Fellay was satisfied by the "lifting" of the excommunication(s); So a "practical deal" can be made more "smoothly."  Also, Bishop Williamson was "set-up" in 2009, be it Providential as it may, it was a situation that Bishop Fellay had to also "re-brand" the SSPX if it was to cushion up to conciliar Rome if it was going to continue anywhere with the work of GREC.  

In addition, it could have also been another [secret] concession on the part of conciliar Rome to Bishop Fellay -to clean up your "act" if you want to come in.

And the other parts of the time line continue as described above in 2011 exchanges with conciliar Rome for a "practical deal."

Thank God there is a resistance. It almost makes we wish that Fellay would come to a deal with Rome, because any deal would not be acceptable to many of the SSPX priests, so more priests would leave the SSPX and join the resistance.

At this stage there is the resistance and the neo SSPX. Many priests and laity remain with the neo SSPX until Bishop Fellay makes an agreement.

It is a matter for each conscience regarding remaining in a SSPX chapel. I can only speak for myself but will no longer attend SSPX chapels. Just as I never get a foot in both camps Novus Ordo and Tradition, I don't intend to remain with a priestly society, which has surrendered  the principles of the founder, appeased Jєωs in such a public manner, and betrayed Tradition. There remains the grave matter of the blasphemy against the Mother of God by Bishop Fellay and his use of the Holy Rosary in his deception.

To be honest I would have to question the integrity of those who remain in SSPX chapels. I will pray for them. Are these people happy with the silence of the priests and lies and deceit from priests?

If a Novus Ordo priest was to commit blasphemy against the Mother of God, there would be endless threads on Ignis Ardens or Cath Info yet here we have Bishop Fellay do it and some 'JoeSixPack' declare Bishop is not a liberal. What is he then?

Taking the argument and it is a fair argument priests are remaining silent for a reason. Have those who hold to this thesis a time frame in relation to when they expect or hope the cleric will actually speak out? Five months, Five Years.

I am open to this argument that Father is being 'prudent', 'keeping counsel'.

To be honest if one has remained silent until now, why bother be vocal now? As discussed at London momentum was lost in getting rid of Bishop Fellay but fair analysis, he would be replaced by another Menzingen mouthpiece.

I can see where people are caught and not leaving chapels or are perhaps applying the green,amber,red light approach.

There will come a point though where priest and laity will have to act. Most will remain until more evidence is shown of a betrayal. If no betrayal what does Bishop Williamson refer to past 15 years or so in latest Comments or as discussed at various conferences.

People will have to decide if they leave chapels or not. I don't feel it my place to tell people to leave.

It's a sad time and difficult time for all. I am going to keep praying.

I offer a mere opinion and nobody is obliged or expected to pay any heed to me.

We need an ABL, so do the priests...