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Bp. Zendejas conferred minor orders and tonsure in SAJM seminary
« on: February 24, 2018, 02:20:40 PM »
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    Re: Bp. Zendejas conferred minor orders and tonsure in SAJM seminary
    « Reply #1 on: February 24, 2018, 10:43:04 PM »
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    It's great to see the Traditional Church growing. Good news!
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall seeing this format of poses for photos, with the new clerics kneeling in front.
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    I like it! They don't need "risers" to get the better visibility of the priests & bishops in the back row.
    And it looks very dignified. I hope this can be a new trend. Someone has their thinking cap on!
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    Re: Bp. Zendejas conferred minor orders and tonsure in SAJM seminary
    « Reply #2 on: February 24, 2018, 10:53:50 PM »
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  • When I saw the picture, I thought about how their numbers appear to be increasing.  It is good news.  I am glad to see +Zendejas.
    "A secure mind is like a continual feast" - Proverbs xv: 15

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    Re: Bp. Zendejas conferred minor orders and tonsure in SAJM seminary
    « Reply #3 on: February 25, 2018, 08:24:36 AM »
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  • Where is the SAJM Seminary located?

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    Re: Bp. Zendejas conferred minor orders and tonsure in SAJM seminary
    « Reply #4 on: February 25, 2018, 09:42:25 AM »
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    It's great to see the Traditional Church growing. Good news!
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall seeing this format of poses for photos, with the new clerics kneeling in front.
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    I like it! They don't need "risers" to get the better visibility of the priests & bishops in the back row.
    And it looks very dignified. I hope this can be a new trend. Someone has their thinking cap on!
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    To all the detractors of +W... not leading, eh? Seems like a very wonderful things happening here, wouldn't have been possible without +W throwin the first pitch... ;)


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    Re: Bp. Zendejas conferred minor orders and tonsure in SAJM seminary
    « Reply #5 on: February 25, 2018, 01:29:18 PM »
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  • Where is the SAJM Seminary located?

    If not mistaken, it is almost on the same grounds as the Dominican's monastery because sometimess the Dominicans teach the SAJM seminarians along with their own Dominican seminarians from time to time. The seminarians of SAJM live in a building just a walk down to the monastery.
        +Faure, Fr. Ballini, and Fr. Trincado are some of the techers there. Not to mention the Dominican Fathers of Avrillé.
    Many people say "For the Honor and Glory of God!" but, what they should say is "For the Love, Glory and Honor of God". - Fr. Paul of Moll

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    Re: Bp. Zendejas conferred minor orders and tonsure in SAJM seminary
    « Reply #6 on: March 08, 2018, 11:21:07 PM »
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  • I have been researching this issue intensely as I am about to graduate from high school in California, God-willingly.

    Is entering this seminary in France a feasible undertaking from the US? Does anyone know the cost? rules? daily schedule? Is this all worth dedicating your life to (putting aside the possibility of the proximity of the end for everyone)?

    Another question is, is it in a cycle where it doesn't start anew until two years?

    This place sounds almost idealistic, but are there any other (good?) seminaries?

    I have contacted some people but would like to know if anyone knows anything I should. Facts and opinions would be greatly appreciated!

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    Re: Bp. Zendejas conferred minor orders and tonsure in SAJM seminary
    « Reply #7 on: March 09, 2018, 01:07:06 AM »
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  • I have been researching this issue intensely as I am about to graduate from high school in California, God-willingly.

    Is entering this seminary in France a feasible undertaking from the US? Does anyone know the cost? rules? daily schedule? Is this all worth dedicating your life to (putting aside the possibility of the proximity of the end for everyone)?

    Another question is, is it in a cycle where it doesn't start anew until two years?

    This place sounds almost idealistic, but are there any other (good?) seminaries?

    I have contacted some people but would like to know if anyone knows anything I should. Facts and opinions would be greatly appreciated!
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    I would like to commend you for your courage, fortitude and foresight, ca246, and the calling you perceive is not to be ignored!
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    If this is something that you think you might be willing to do, my recommendation to you is that you ought to go immediately to your local public library and check out audio tapes or CDs for learning how to speak French. You should begin right away spending at least an hour a day listening to the lessons and repeating the sounds you hear. Follow their instructions especially if they say you should use a recording device to playback your answers to their questions and prompts, OR if they say you should just LISTEN at first and start recording your own voice LATER. Whatever they say, do it. Obedience is a virtue and indispensable in a seminary.
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    If you can find them, get recordings of Catholic prayers, and start praying the Rosary in French. You might actually enjoy it!
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    You ought to get started ASAP because if you go to France to attend seminary, you are going to have to learn to speak French, no two ways about it. I have a friend who did this and he said the hardest part was taking Moral Theology in French.
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    I gave him a lot of moral support (no pun intended) which helped his confidence, and later he thanked me for that.
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    Some might tell you it's possible to just stick with English but let's face it. You're going to be learning and using Latin, anyway (traditional Catholic liturgy), and guess what? French is closer to Latin than English is! So you can kill two birds with one stone. Plus, I can assure you that you will encounter FAR MORE appreciation and friendliness and respect from others if you prove to them you are willing and able to make your best effort. Little tip from the trenches -- in Paris, especially, locals look down their noses at people who try to speak French with an English accent -- but it gets worse than that -- a lot of Parisians look down their noses at Frenchmen who speak French with a RURAL FRENCH ACCENT, that is, making it known they're not from Paris! The point is, the speaking of French will be a real eye-opener for you. You had better get started right away!
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    French is a very strange thing for Americans to do, but with practice you can actually master it. You might find yourself able to awaken those vocal muscles that we don't use at all, to become very good at getting rid of your American/English accent. One trick for that is for you to start imitating THEM when they speak English -- if you can learn to speak English with a French accent, you will be helping yourself to learn French with a French accent! 
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    Some claim to be able to acquire a foreign language in a few months but if I were you I would estimate you ought to give yourself at least a year of intense study. If you can do better, great, but get started immediately!
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    Re: Bp. Zendejas conferred minor orders and tonsure in SAJM seminary
    « Reply #8 on: March 09, 2018, 01:27:42 AM »
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  • I have been researching this issue intensely as I am about to graduate from high school in California, God-willingly.

    Is entering this seminary in France a feasible undertaking from the US? Does anyone know the cost? rules? daily schedule? Is this all worth dedicating your life to (putting aside the possibility of the proximity of the end for everyone)?

    Another question is, is it in a cycle where it doesn't start anew until two years?

    This place sounds almost idealistic, but are there any other (good?) seminaries?

    I have contacted some people but would like to know if anyone knows anything I should. Facts and opinions would be greatly appreciated!
    If you would like, I can put you in direct contact with Fr. Balini, who is a teacher of the SAJM seminary. He should be able to answer your questions of their establishment better then I could attempt to. I should also have a copy of the docuмents for making an application to join and the basic requirments thereof, but it is in French. Though I could translate it well enough if need be.

    If you are looking specifically for "Resistance" seminaries, the other option would be to go to the Resistance Benedictine monastery in Brazil, but a priest told me you would have to learn Spanish or Portuguese.

    It is late and I can't think anymore. Please p.m. me if you are interested, and I'll get back to you as soon as possible.
    Many people say "For the Honor and Glory of God!" but, what they should say is "For the Love, Glory and Honor of God". - Fr. Paul of Moll

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    Re: Bp. Zendejas conferred minor orders and tonsure in SAJM seminary
    « Reply #9 on: March 09, 2018, 01:52:08 AM »
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  • Thank you for your suggestions but ironically perhaps, I have already studied French for some years, not for this reason but because in my school there is no German (only Spanish and French) and I am already fluent in Spanish. I stopped taking French at the fourth year because the teacher was not only sexist and leftist but just rude and demeaning, and I have been practicing, mostly reading/listening to some of St. John Vianney's and Archbishop Lefebvre's sermons and (of course) talking to myself in French.

    What I understand is I should REALLY be fluent by the time I go. Obedience might be the difficult part if they make odd or unreasonable demands. I have heard some seminaries actually make people go outside in the afternoon, which thinking of summer sounds like an awful idea. Do you know if electronics are banned? (I'm not a fan and I've never had a working cell phone, but what about checking the weather, current events, or communicating with the outside?) What about all the books I have? What you said about recording devices is new to me...

    Are you saying you had a friend go to this seminary? Please can you at least give me an idea of the cost? anything else? Or of what happens after seminary?

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    Re: Bp. Zendejas conferred minor orders and tonsure in SAJM seminary
    « Reply #10 on: March 09, 2018, 09:34:23 AM »
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  • Thank you for your suggestions but ironically perhaps, I have already studied French for some years, not for this reason but because in my school there is no German (only Spanish and French) and I am already fluent in Spanish. I stopped taking French at the fourth year because the teacher was not only sexist and leftist but just rude and demeaning, and I have been practicing, mostly reading/listening to some of St. John Vianney's and Archbishop Lefebvre's sermons and (of course) talking to myself in French.

    What I understand is I should REALLY be fluent by the time I go. Obedience might be the difficult part if they make odd or unreasonable demands. I have heard some seminaries actually make people go outside in the afternoon, which thinking of summer sounds like an awful idea. Do you know if electronics are banned? (I'm not a fan and I've never had a working cell phone, but what about checking the weather, current events, or communicating with the outside?) What about all the books I have? What you said about recording devices is new to me...

    Are you saying you had a friend go to this seminary? Please can you at least give me an idea of the cost? anything else? Or of what happens after seminary?
    Try to talk to Bishop Zendejas or take "Student of Qi" 's offer and get in contact with Father Ballini.


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    Re: Bp. Zendejas conferred minor orders and tonsure in SAJM seminary
    « Reply #11 on: March 09, 2018, 10:43:15 AM »
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  •  #1: I have heard some seminaries actually make people go outside in the afternoon, which thinking of summer sounds like an awful idea.

    #2: Do you know if electronics are banned? ( Or communicating with the outside?)

    #3: What about all the books I have?

    #4:Please can you at least give me an idea of the cost?
    #1: It's my understanding that they at least take walks fir recreation, among other possible activities. Considering the location, the average temps. in Summer ate probably in the 70s, Fahrenheit.
    #2, #3 & #4: These are addressed in the docuмents I mentioned before.
    Many people say "For the Honor and Glory of God!" but, what they should say is "For the Love, Glory and Honor of God". - Fr. Paul of Moll

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    Re: Bp. Zendejas conferred minor orders and tonsure in SAJM seminary
    « Reply #12 on: March 09, 2018, 07:18:07 PM »
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  • I don't know if you received my personal message, so I am adding a reply here as well.

    I was responding to Neil Obstat in my last reply. I had not seen Student of Qi's message.

    Yes, +Student of Qi, I am really interested in having a chance to look at the docuмents.

    I have not used this site before but I think anyone can e-mail/PM me.

    Thank you so much!