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Author Topic: Bp. Zendejas's Apostolic Mission?  (Read 12654 times)

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Re: Bp. Zendejas's Apostolic Mission?
« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2021, 05:24:47 PM »
Of the four Resistance bishops, this is how I compare them to each other:

+Williamson is the best regarding Rome;

+Faure (kind of like +Tissier) is the best doctrinally;

+Zendejas is the best pastorally;

+Thomas Aquinas is the best, not surprisingly, in terms of personal piety.

Of course, there is overlap from each into all four categories, but if each could only be labeled for one quality, this is how I would appraise all four admirable bishops.

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Re: Bp. Zendejas's Apostolic Mission?
« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2021, 05:34:29 PM »
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We've had an open Resistance situation since 2012.   It is 2021 and only a trickle of priests have been ordained.

There have been many excuses, but in that time period, it would have been possible to ordain two to three seminary classes of priests.
If, the Bishop(s) had the will to do it.  

And during that critical time, Resistance chapels, worldwide, have withered on the vine or been prey to the neo-SSPX.

So, if you accuse me of having little Faith, I counter the Bishops you defend for not passing on the continuity of Faith though the priesthood.


I *completely* disagree with you and (apparently) so do the Resistance bishops. Namely, that "it's a crisis, we gotta ordain priests, at any cost, despite qualifications or lack thereof, despite psychological problems or other skeletons-in-the-closet on the part of the candidates."

Fr. Pfeiffer is firmly in that camp. And he can have it! After all, it's served him "so well" (NOT!)

Just for starters, you can't create priests like you create a website or something. YOU HAVE TO HAVE CANDIDATES. Then those candidates have to be trained for a minimum of 6 years, and they have to have a vocation. They have to persevere in their seminary training. Remember, the devil is alive and active in seminaries, trying to sow discord, doubt, crisis, etc. in both professor and seminarian. The devil knows where his biggest threat is. So you can't discount the attacks of the devil in the formation of priests, especially today. Didn't +ABL say that each vocation was a miracle? And that was in the 70's, was it not? It's much worse today. The 80's were the good-old-days compared to today: before smartphones, Social mєdια, Cancel Culture, 15 genders, and many other bad things.

Do you know what the average age is, for exposure to porn (usually via smartphone) in 2021? Something like age 8 or 9. Talking about the general population of course. Isn't that awful? There is no innocence left except a few islands here or there. And to go a step further, the "porn" these kids see is nothing like classic "nudie magazines" or a lingerie catalog. We're talking some seriously depraved stuff. And it's extremely pervasive now with smartphones. Each public school kid is just one classmate-with-a-cellphone away from losing their innocence.

I would rather have no priest than a bad priest. At least I have a chance of saving my soul in the former case. Wicked, badly trained, and/or poorly-formed priests are why we had the Protestant revolt, as well as Vatican II. People leave the Church and sometimes lose the Faith completely due to a bad priest. Never underestimate the evils that come from bad priests.

Archbishop Lefebvre certainly believed this. He didn't rush the ordination of priests -- he made sure every priest he ordained had the proper spiritual, philosophical, and theological formation. The Resistance follows in his footsteps today. Deo gratias!


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Re: Bp. Zendejas's Apostolic Mission?
« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2021, 05:43:53 PM »
P.S. It's not fair to compare numbers of priest ordained by +ABL 10 years after the New Mass to, say, the numbers ordained by +Williamson 10 years after 2012.

Just like 1970 was different to 2012 in countless ways, the results are naturally going to be different. The world is a completely different place now.

We will never know how +Williamson would have fared if he had been dropped into +ABL's shoes in 1970. Talk about a waste of time, academic exercise. God obviously created +ABL to fight for Tradition during the 70's and 80's, and +Williamson to do the same thing only for a different age. They each are different men, with different graces, to deal with different worlds.

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Re: Bp. Zendejas's Apostolic Mission?
« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2021, 05:50:50 PM »

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 I counter the Bishops you defend for not passing on the continuity of Faith though the priesthood.

You really act like they can just "get off their duff" and create priests, as if it completely depended 100% on their own will and say-so, like you or I could get off our duff and mow the lawn. The lawn mower is there, and gas is cheap and available. All it takes is the WILL and the lack of laziness, and the lawn gets mowed, right?

You can't be that stupid.

Unless you can give me a list of good candidates for the priesthood -- well trained in philosophy and theology -- who were refused ordination by the Resistance bishops over the past 9 years, you really need to shut up.

No offense.  ;)

Oh, and to give you a clue: back in 2012 there was only ONE bishop in the Resistance, Bishop Williamson. The others were consecrated later (by +Williamson, I should point out!), no more than 1 per year. And the most recent was only a handful of years ago. Incidentally, this consecrating of bishops was "Tradidi quod et accepi" if I ever saw it.

Re: Bp. Zendejas's Apostolic Mission?
« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2021, 07:36:47 PM »
Being ignorant of Resistance policy, what was the reasoning for consecrating  4 bishops?