Thank you for your reply.

As I understand it then, you have decided that "they don't care about validity,"
not because they have specifically told you that they do not care whether the
sacraments they confer are valid or not -- correct?  

Um, sort of.

Because, they have not told you that, have they?  And therefore, it is your own,
personal judgment that you are describing when you made that sentence, "The
independent priests around here are not concerned with validity, so they're out"

-- correct?

Not really.

When you say "...or at least act in such a way," what you are really saying is,
that you have not had a reasonable conversation with them nor have you given
them the opportunity to explain themselves to you, based on their extensive
training and seminary and dogmatic theology and Church history, and canon law
precedents for the past century, but instead, you have taken it unto yourself to
pass judgment based on vague commentary from others, probably sedevacantists,
who have presumed to judge this issue and hand down to you their own
conclusions, which you have accepted since they have published a book and it's
in print, and Amazon sells it -- correct?

Incorrect, actually.

BTW - you can save a lot of money by going to their chapel and buying the book
because it isn't selling very well, they have a HUGE glut of them in storage, and
they don't want to be stuck 'holding the bag,' so it's on sale!!




And yes, I do know this is the "Bp. Williamson May Be Gone, But Ill Still Receive
the Sacraments From SSPX" thread.  We're talking about receiving the
sacraments.



Let me put it this way:  Would it make a whit of difference to you if Bishop
Williamson were to tell you himself that these priests you are denouncing do
not need "conditional re-ordination?"  Or, would you prefer to listen to Bp.
Pivarunas instead of Bp. Williamson?

I'm going to make this simple, cause it seems you're looking for polemics, and I'm really trying to stay away from that stuff- too disturbing to my soul (what can I say, I'm a weakling).

I was counseled by a non-sedevecantist independent traditional Roman Catholic bishop, formally trained in theology, and a holy man, that it would be dangerous to receive sacraments from this particular chapel.

I've discussed this with these priests directly, and we've come to a disagreement on the matter. They're nice humble men, but there is a doubt of the validity with their Holy Orders on my end. Two of the three priests were ordained in the New Rite by Bishops also Consecrated in the New Rite who have shown themselves to have questionable beliefs (which lead to further doubt as to whether they were ordaining 'priests' or 'presiders'). The third priest was ordained in the Traditional Rites of ordination, however his own bishop was Consecrated in the New. As I'm sure you know, St. Thomas says that one must not receive doubtful sacraments.  

From now on, I will be more careful with my words; just figured everyone here would know what I meant when I said that they were not concerned with validity- it was a figure of speech.

I hope this helps, Neil Obstat.