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I did not like this sentence because it said that we weren't forced to wait for the full conversion of Rome. I did not like "when they will begin to repent" and I did not like he was ready to use of "soft" formulations.

I read on a thread here that an SSPX Mass-goer reported he inferred from a sermon that +BF's (delusional?) faith was immovable/unshaken in that the SSPX under his leadership was called to convert Rome - and that it could only be done from within full stop!*   So that would make sense of when they will begin to repent

And the soft options are evident to anybody who has read the double-speak hidden in the interminable announcements/pronouncements/renouncements made by +BF.

Under his leadership the flock following and trusting him are being led to the slaughter.   In a sermon here in Tynong when administering the Sacrament of Confirmation to our children he told them, and their parents, to prepare for martyrdom.

I cannot help but arrive at the conclusion that he will not forgo his goal because it is his faith.  I can see how it is possible for him to believe unshakably that he is following in the footsteps of ++ABL to the point of completing them. (See footnote below).

Item 11 in his latest 'renouncement' seeking 'the right' to expose error and the propagator of that error (could be the Pope mind you) can be opposed.
This is how that section can be interpreted.  +B.F has no superior.   The only person not permitted by God to have a superior is the Pope.
Ergo, it is not unreasonable to think that +BF's undoubted faith has convinced him that he has been chosen by God - as all of us are according to our state in life - to convert the Pope and the Church from within.

*In other words - the same intention as ++ABL!

Quote from: InDominoSperavi

I did not like this sentence because it said that we weren't forced to wait for the full conversion of Rome. I did not like "when they will begin to repent" and I did not like he was ready to use of "soft" formulations.

I read on a thread here that an SSPX Mass-goer reported he inferred from a sermon that +BF's (delusional?) faith was immovable/unshaken in that the SSPX under his leadership was called to convert Rome - and that it could only be done from within -  full stop!*   So that would make sense of when they will begin to repent

InDominoSperavi is not quoting HEBF, rather he is quoting words
from a sermon given in French by +TdM.  In the quoted sermon,
the question of  "when they will begin to repent"  was not
answered.  It was a curiously hanging phrase that seems to have
been inserted deliberately, in order to render the entire sermon
eligible to be posted on the Society websites, etc. This is an
opinion of InDominoSperavi, but I rather expect that it will be
readily approved by such luminaries as Fr. Chazal, Fr. Girouard, Fr.
Hewko and Fr. Pfeiffer.  Let us see............ all in due time!

And the soft options are evident to anybody who has read the double-speak hidden in the interminable announcements/pronouncements/renouncements made by +BF.

Under his leadership the flock following and trusting him are being led to the slaughter.   In a sermon here in Tynong when administering the Sacrament of Confirmation to our children he told them, and their parents, to prepare for martyrdom.

I cannot help but arrive at the conclusion that he will not forgo his goal because it is his faith.  I can see how it is possible for him to believe unshakably that he is following in the footsteps of ++ABL to the point of completing them. (See footnote below).

Item 11 in his latest 'renouncement' seeking 'the right' to expose error and the propagator of that error (could be the Pope mind you) can be opposed.
This is how that section can be interpreted.  +B.F has no superior.   The only person not permitted by God to have a superior is the Pope.
Ergo, it is not unreasonable to think that +BF's undoubted faith has convinced him that he has been chosen by God - as all of us are according to our state in life - to convert the Pope and the Church from within.

*In other words - the same intention as ++ABL!

Slight correction to the above.  The footnote does not imply that ++ABL wanted to convert Rome from within.   The Archbishop knew that to be the absolutely wrong way to go.  My intention is merely to point out that +BF appears to believe that:

(a) today, it would be ABL's intention, and
(b) that he, +BF is fulfilling the purpose of the SSPX according to the situation today.

I would say the same thing as you, donkath, but I would use
different terms.  

I was at a conference speech given by HEBF in the year 1995
or 6, which was when he had only been SG for a year or two.
In this speech, which I recall well (not the words but my
impressions of +F and of what people had to say about him),
there is no question but that he was already thinking of
making some kind of 'deal' with conciliar Rome as his primary
goal if not in the Society then in life itself.  

He spoke of it as a "luscious plum," his exact words, and only
later, did I realize the allusion to the forbidden fruit of the
Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.  

But, if that's not bad enough, after having read about the
Re-Branding effort, and GREC, and the AFD and the GC 6
Conditions, and on and on, it becomes more realistic to me
that what has been going on in between the ears of this
current SG is, that he thinks of his agenda toward making
a 'deal' with modernist Rome as the MANIFEST DESTINY of
the SSPX.  


The Manifest Destiny of the SSPX.

The Manifest Destiny of the SSPX.

The Manifest Destiny of the SSPX.


It has a kind of song quality, don't you think, Kazimierz?