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« on: March 09, 2017, 11:12:24 AM »
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  • NEWS FROM MONS. TISSIER
    Bishop Tissier's plummeting doesn't seem to stop. The latest developments in this regard are truly catastrophic.
    Indeed, during his visit to Australia Bishop Tissier told anyone who would listen to him that the SSPX was good all over the world except in France because of the "Resistance."
    Today, in old Europe, Bishop Tissier moves from one priory to another to meet with the priests and (hold on tightly) to tell them all their esteem for that old Bishop Ms. Pozzo who does everything he can to fix the prelature.
    He also gave a lecture to the Dominicans of Menzingen (Steffenhausen) to tell them the same thing: we can easily imagine the confusion of the audience!
    It seems, therefore, that Bishop Tissier is already fully committed to the prelature and tries to return to the priests and faithful in this direction. And since Bishop de Galarreta and Fellay are already persona non grata among the French faithful who have understood their game, only Bishop Tissier remains to convince the last bastion of Catholic fidelity, since the latter still has a certain credit of "Not accord" among many.
    Therefore there is no longer any hope on the part of the bishops of the (neo) FSSPX. And that is why Providence took care of giving us three good faithful bishops. You can finally see how blind they are ... and act accordingly.


    La caída en picada de Mons. Tissier parece ya no detenerse. Las últimas novedades a su respecto son realmente catastróficas.

    En efecto, durante su paso por Australia, Mons. Tissier dijo a quien quisiera escucharlo que la FSSPX estaba bien en todo el mundo salvo en Francia a causa de la “Resistencia”.
    Actualmente, en la vieja Europa, Mons. Tissier pasa de un priorato a otro para entrevistarse con los sacerdotes y (agárrese bien) para decirles toda su estima por ese viejo obispo Mons. Pozzo que hace todo lo que puede para arreglar la prelatura.
    También dio una conferencia a los dominicos de Menzingen (Steffenhausen) para decirles lo mismo: ¡nos podemos imaginar fácilmente la confusión del auditorio!
    Parece, pues, que el Obispo Tissier ya está totalmente comprometido con la prelatura y trata de volver a los sacerdotes y fieles en esta dirección. Y en vista que Mons. De Galarreta y Fellay ya son persona non grata entre los fieles franceses que han comprendido su juego, sólo queda Mons. Tissier para lograr convencer al último bastión de la fidelidad católica, pues éste último todavía tiene un cierto crédito de “no acuerdista” entre muchos.
    Por lo tanto ya no hay ninguna esperanza por parte de los obispos de la (neo) FSSPX. Y es por eso que la Providencia cuidó de darnos tres buenos obispos fieles. Puedan finalmente ver los ciegos… y actuar en consecuencia.

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    « Reply #1 on: March 09, 2017, 01:03:21 PM »
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  • Hmmm, isn't this the man who said that Benedict XVI was a heretic?  I guess that heresy doesn't mean much anymore.


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    « Reply #2 on: March 09, 2017, 04:58:52 PM »
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  • No! Not Bishop Tissier too! It seemed he was a very good bishop last I saw of him back in 2014... and I really liked him. :cry:

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    « Reply #3 on: March 09, 2017, 08:48:03 PM »
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  • The strength of the French traditional Catholic movement (80,000+) is obviously why Msgr. Fellay moved Bp. Tissier de Mallerais to Chicago.



    The men who are selling-out the +ABL and the SSPX can only hide from real trads.



    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #4 on: March 09, 2017, 08:53:09 PM »
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  • Where does the number 80,000 + come from? Are there truly that many of them in France?
    Many people say "For the Honor and Glory of God!" but, what they should say is "For the Love, Glory and Honor of God". - Fr. Paul of Moll


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    « Reply #5 on: March 09, 2017, 09:04:39 PM »
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  • Stockholm Syndrome (in at least a loose sense), anyone?  I certainly would not dismiss the distinct possibility of at least a certain degree of that having taken place in the person of His Lordship.  I was a regular attendee at Our Lady Immaculate Chapel in Oak Park (Chicago) when Bp. Tissier took his assignment there and for a good number of years subsequent to that.

    A humiliating sort of demotion, marginalization, and casting off?  It certainly appeared that way to many.  In any event, His Lordship appeared to handle it, at least to this observer anyway, with a real dignity and grace.  God knows what suffering and tribulation he may have gone through on the inside.

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    « Reply #6 on: March 09, 2017, 10:30:37 PM »
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    Stockholm Syndrome (in at least a loose sense), anyone?  I certainly would not dismiss the distinct possibility of at least a certain degree of that having taken place in the person of His Lordship.  I was a regular attendee at Our Lady Immaculate Chapel in Oak Park (Chicago) when Bp. Tissier took his assignment there and for a good number of years subsequent to that.

    A humiliating sort of demotion, marginalization, and casting off?  It certainly appeared that way to many.  In any event, His Lordship appeared to handle it, at least to this observer anyway, with a real dignity and grace.  God knows what suffering and tribulation he may have gone through on the inside.


    Yes, +Tissier might have undergone suffering in the past few years -- accepting exile at the hands of the neo-SSPX authorities, and the various sufferings that go with that.

    But suffering does not equal merit. If I willfully sabotaged my marriage by openly having an affair with another woman, making sure my wife knew, I would gain plenty of suffering as well! But it wouldn't be God's will, and it wouldn't be meritorious.

    In certain areas, God wants what is more pleasant, and easier, for us! It is certainly easier (humanly speaking) to keep my young children at home and continue to raise them, rather than give them up for adoption. But giving them up for adoption is NOT God's will for me, even though that would cause me more suffering.

    I am much more impressed, edified, and sympathetic with the sufferings of Bishop Williamson, since he has not compromised or done "the wrong thing" or the weak thing. On the contrary, he has done the magnanimous thing, the heroic thing. With a lion's heart he is rising to the occasion. He is playing the part of St. Athanasius.

    +Tissier is being stereotypically French -- according to the derogatory American stereotypes of the French, that is.*

    If he's going to suffer, let it be for the right reason, and for a worthy cause! Let it be for the good of souls, the good of the Catholic Church, and not just from a SENTIMENTAL LOVE for the SSPX which +TdM certainly has.



    *P.S. Here are some examples of the American stereotype of the French, as illustrated by some jokes:

    Q: Why do we need France on our side against Sadaam and Osama?
    A: So the French can show them how to surrender.

    Q: What do you call a Frenchman advancing on Baghdad?
    A: A salesman

    Q: What’s the shortest book ever written?
    A: French War Heroes.

    Q: What is the first thing the French Army teaches at basic training?
    A: How to surrender in at least 10 languages.

    Q: What is the most useful thing in the French Army?
    A: A rearview mirror, so they can see the war.

    Q: Why does Nike like the French Army?
    A: Because, in war time, they are the biggest buyers of running shoes.

    Q: Why do the French call their fighter the *Mirage*?
    A: Because it doesn’t really exist.

    Q: Why do the French have glass bottom boats in their Navy?
    A: To see all their other ships.

    Q: Why is good to be French?
    A: You can surrender at the beginning of the war, and US will win it for you.

    Q: How many Frenchman does it take to guard Paris?
    A: Nobody knows, its never been tried before

    Q: What do you call 100,000 Frenchmen with their hands up?
    A: The Army.

    Q: Why don’t they have fireworks at Euro Disney?
    A: Because every time they shoot them off, the French try to surrender.

    Q: Why are the French so afraid of war?
    A: You would be too if you never won one in your history.

    Q: What’s the difference between toast and Frenchmen?
    A: You can make soldiers out of toast!

    Q: Why does every army have to have a French flag?
    A: In case they want to surrender!

    Q: How do you confuse a French Soldier?
    A: Give him a rifle and ask him to shoot it.
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    « Reply #7 on: March 09, 2017, 11:12:10 PM »
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  • This is a good looking flag here:
    Quote from: Incredulous

    The strength of the French traditional Catholic movement (80,000+) is obviously why Msgr. Fellay moved Bp. Tissier de Mallerais to Chicago.



    The men who are selling-out the +ABL and the SSPX can only hide from real trads.


    Does anyone know where to order one?

    (300 years ago, it would have prevented the French Revolution. What about today?)

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    « Reply #8 on: March 10, 2017, 08:00:34 AM »
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    NEWS FROM MONS. TISSIER
    Bishop Tissier's plummeting doesn't seem to stop. The latest developments in this regard are truly catastrophic.
    Indeed, during his visit to Australia Bishop Tissier told anyone who would listen to him that the SSPX was good all over the world except in France because of the "Resistance."
    Today, in old Europe, Bishop Tissier moves from one priory to another to meet with the priests and (hold on tightly) to tell them all their esteem for that old Bishop Ms. Pozzo who does everything he can to fix the prelature.
    He also gave a lecture to the Dominicans of Menzingen (Steffenhausen) to tell them the same thing: we can easily imagine the confusion of the audience!
    It seems, therefore, that Bishop Tissier is already fully committed to the prelature and tries to return to the priests and faithful in this direction. And since Bishop de Galarreta and Fellay are already persona non grata among the French faithful who have understood their game, only Bishop Tissier remains to convince the last bastion of Catholic fidelity, since the latter still has a certain credit of "Not accord" among many.
    Therefore there is no longer any hope on the part of the bishops of the (neo) FSSPX. And that is why Providence took care of giving us three good faithful bishops. You can finally see how blind they are ... and act accordingly.


    La caída en picada de Mons. Tissier parece ya no detenerse. Las últimas novedades a su respecto son realmente catastróficas.

    En efecto, durante su paso por Australia, Mons. Tissier dijo a quien quisiera escucharlo que la FSSPX estaba bien en todo el mundo salvo en Francia a causa de la “Resistencia”.
    Actualmente, en la vieja Europa, Mons. Tissier pasa de un priorato a otro para entrevistarse con los sacerdotes y (agárrese bien) para decirles toda su estima por ese viejo obispo Mons. Pozzo que hace todo lo que puede para arreglar la prelatura.
    También dio una conferencia a los dominicos de Menzingen (Steffenhausen) para decirles lo mismo: ¡nos podemos imaginar fácilmente la confusión del auditorio!
    Parece, pues, que el Obispo Tissier ya está totalmente comprometido con la prelatura y trata de volver a los sacerdotes y fieles en esta dirección. Y en vista que Mons. De Galarreta y Fellay ya son persona non grata entre los fieles franceses que han comprendido su juego, sólo queda Mons. Tissier para lograr convencer al último bastión de la fidelidad católica, pues éste último todavía tiene un cierto crédito de “no acuerdista” entre muchos.
    Por lo tanto ya no hay ninguna esperanza por parte de los obispos de la (neo) FSSPX. Y es por eso que la Providencia cuidó de darnos tres buenos obispos fieles. Puedan finalmente ver los ciegos… y actuar en consecuencia.

    http://nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.com/2017/03/novedades-de-mons-tissier.html


    France is the called "The eldest daughter of the Church" so it makes sense that the Resistance would be strong there.  Viva Cristo Rey!
    "Jesus, Meek and Humble of Heart, make my heart like unto Thine!"

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    « Reply #9 on: March 10, 2017, 02:32:32 PM »
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  • Quote from: Incredulous

    [The strength of the French traditional Catholic movement (80,000+) is obviously why Msgr. Fellay moved Bp. Tissier de Mallerais to Chicago.


    Of all the places available to the SSPX in which a frail elderly bishop would be comfortable and beneficial, why would they send him to the murder/crime capital of the US? It's definitely not the stunning scenery. In Chicago there are few fluent in HE's native language, therefore fewer to possibly influence +TdeM in a way undesirable to Menz's headlong rush to destruction.

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    « Reply #10 on: March 10, 2017, 03:10:19 PM »
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    Stockholm Syndrome (in at least a loose sense), anyone?  I certainly would not dismiss the distinct possibility of at least a certain degree of that having taken place in the person of His Lordship.  I was a regular attendee at Our Lady Immaculate Chapel in Oak Park (Chicago) when Bp. Tissier took his assignment there and for a good number of years subsequent to that.

    A humiliating sort of demotion, marginalization, and casting off?  It certainly appeared that way to many.  In any event, His Lordship appeared to handle it, at least to this observer anyway, with a real dignity and grace.  God knows what suffering and tribulation he may have gone through on the inside.


    Yes, +Tissier might have undergone suffering in the past few years -- accepting exile at the hands of the neo-SSPX authorities, and the various sufferings that go with that.

    But suffering does not equal merit. If I willfully sabotaged my marriage by openly having an affair with another woman, making sure my wife knew, I would gain plenty of suffering as well! But it wouldn't be God's will, and it wouldn't be meritorious.

    In certain areas, God wants what is more pleasant, and easier, for us! It is certainly easier (humanly speaking) to keep my young children at home and continue to raise them, rather than give them up for adoption. But giving them up for adoption is NOT God's will for me, even though that would cause me more suffering.

    I am much more impressed, edified, and sympathetic with the sufferings of Bishop Williamson, since he has not compromised or done "the wrong thing" or the weak thing. On the contrary, he has done the magnanimous thing, the heroic thing. With a lion's heart he is rising to the occasion. He is playing the part of St. Athanasius.

    +Tissier is being stereotypically French -- according to the derogatory American stereotypes of the French, that is.*

    If he's going to suffer, let it be for the right reason, and for a worthy cause! Let it be for the good of souls, the good of the Catholic Church, and not just from a SENTIMENTAL LOVE for the SSPX which +TdM certainly has.



    *P.S. Here are some examples of the American stereotype of the French, as illustrated by some jokes:

    Q: Why do we need France on our side against Sadaam and Osama?
    A: So the French can show them how to surrender.

    Q: What do you call a Frenchman advancing on Baghdad?
    A: A salesman

    Q: What’s the shortest book ever written?
    A: French War Heroes.

    Q: What is the first thing the French Army teaches at basic training?
    A: How to surrender in at least 10 languages.

    Q: What is the most useful thing in the French Army?
    A: A rearview mirror, so they can see the war.

    Q: Why does Nike like the French Army?
    A: Because, in war time, they are the biggest buyers of running shoes.

    Q: Why do the French call their fighter the *Mirage*?
    A: Because it doesn’t really exist.

    Q: Why do the French have glass bottom boats in their Navy?
    A: To see all their other ships.

    Q: Why is good to be French?
    A: You can surrender at the beginning of the war, and US will win it for you.

    Q: How many Frenchman does it take to guard Paris?
    A: Nobody knows, its never been tried before

    Q: What do you call 100,000 Frenchmen with their hands up?
    A: The Army.

    Q: Why don’t they have fireworks at Euro Disney?
    A: Because every time they shoot them off, the French try to surrender.

    Q: Why are the French so afraid of war?
    A: You would be too if you never won one in your history.

    Q: What’s the difference between toast and Frenchmen?
    A: You can make soldiers out of toast!

    Q: Why does every army have to have a French flag?
    A: In case they want to surrender!

    Q: How do you confuse a French Soldier?
    A: Give him a rifle and ask him to shoot it.

    Nevertheless:

    Vive La France!!!

    Please note the two attached files below containing current writings by the heroic French Catholic Nationalist priest the Abbé Olivier Rioult.  They show that the best and clearest understanding of the present catastrophic situation is from Catholic France.  Anyone in France who, like Bishop Tissier de Mallerais, is a willing creature of the Communist Pope Francis is also a sworn enemy of France.  The Neo-SSPX is the active enemy of the rightful leaders of France, namely the loyal (and therefore fiercely persecuted) Roman Catholics François Fillon and Marine Le Pen.  The Masonic Marxist France of the vile Rothschild banker Emmanuel Macron is not France at all.  Any more than the Democratic Party is in any way American.  All such riff-raff are mere deracinated Red scuм and should be treated as such.  Traitors by any other name are still traitors, just the same as the Modernist apostates.

    The Catholic pusillus grex or little flock is the actual remnant of Western civilisation.  Because our Catholic history is apocalyptic and the Apocalypse continues more than ever as the central reality of the entire human race.  The Catholic France of Fillon and Le Pen is France much like the historically real America is Catholic America.  The Masonic Marxist demi-monde of sorcerers and sodomites is simply exactly what that despicable sewer appears to be:  The Outer Darkness.

    The profound difference between the U.S.A. and England is something that is entirely French.  The American Revolution and Republic were as French as French can be.  It is the generous gifts of French Catholic manpower and money that have made America what she is, something that is so profoundly not English and not Anglo-Saxon in character.

    The true origins of America are Norman, not Anglo-Saxon, and the Normans were and are French.  Quintessentially French.  The same Roman Catholic Normans are why our English language is as Frenchified as a Germanic language could possibly be.  Catholic France is everywhere around us in the White European Anglophone world.  Even, or especially, in England, if truth be told.

    Let us not be so timid as to deny our essential American heritage.  The Normans were the Crusaders of Catholic Christendom.  The Americans are the Crusaders of Catholic Christendom.

    La plus ça change, la plus c'est la mème chose.
     


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    « Reply #11 on: March 10, 2017, 03:35:49 PM »
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  • I think Bishop Williamson explains French culture this way:

    When the French people are true to the Catholic Faith, they are the world leaders of religious thinking and life.

    But when they fail the Faith, they are the laughing-stock of the world.


    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    I think Bishop Williamson explains French culture this way:

    When the French people are true to the Catholic Faith, they are the world leaders of religious thinking and life.

    But when they fail the Faith, they are the laughing-stock of the world.



    Well quoted, Mr. Incredulous.  It is exactly so.



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    « Reply #13 on: March 11, 2017, 09:46:09 AM »
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  • Whilst I have stepped away from the Resistance, I offer an opinion. I remember being introduced to the Bishop in the early 2000s. His criticism of the Novus Ordo and the Second Vatican Council prompted heckling and a man walked out of the conference.
    I recall a man sitting at the back objecting to the Bishop and then walking out.

    My first memory of Bishop Tissier.  It was difficult to hear him but he was obviously saying the right things to prompt the heckler to walk out.

    In recent years I attended a conference given by the Bishop. Wow. What a flop. He gave a conference  on the history of the SSPX to a room full of people already aware of the history of the SSPX. In the midst of Krahgate etc etc no questions were asked of him. Nobody raised the issue of how badly Bishop Williamson was treated. The scripted conference ended and Bishop Tissier and the clergy retired.

    Bishop Tissier has been built up to something he never was.

    Thankfully many did act later and are now part of the resistance. All that needs to be said is God Bless Bishop Williamson, the Lion of Broadstairs.

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    « Reply #14 on: March 11, 2017, 01:10:16 PM »
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  • God willing, there will be Bishop Zendejas soon enough and maybe a few more before Bishop Williamson is done.  

    Perhaps there will be a growth and increased level of cooperation among the resistant priests and bishops and a strong presence will emerge as the SSPX becomes absorbed into the conciliar marinade.